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Tuesday, July 9th, 2013 at 9:50 am  |  155 responses

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Criticizes Dwight Howard’s Game and Maturity


Shaquille O’Neal isn’t the only Hall of Fame former Lakers center taking shots at Dwight Howard on his way out of LA. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar thinks little of Howard’s game and maturity. Per Cap’s Facebook and ESPN: “‘Dwight Howard is a perfect example of the fact that ‘potential has a shelf life.’ Laker fans should be patient and allow Mitch & company to prepare themselves to do some serious work in the free agent market.’ [...] Both O’Neal and Abdul-Jabbar were critical of Howard even before he decided to leave the Lakers. Abdul-Jabbar told the San Francisco Chronicle last month he met Howard only once and that Howard expressed an interest in learning from the former Lakers captain but he never again reached out to Abdul-Jabbar. ‘He’s charming, he’s charismatic, very nice young man,’ Abdul-Jabbar said. ‘Maturity-wise, he doesn’t get it.’ When Abdul-Jabbar was asked about teaching Howard the sky hook, he said, ‘At least he’d have an offensive move. He gets the ball on offense, oh my God, he doesn’t know what to do. It’s usually a turnover, people come and take the ball from him or tie his arms up. Offensively, he doesn’t get it. Hasn’t made any progress. We (the Lakers, when Abdul-Jabbar was a special assistant coach) played them in ’09, and when I saw him this past season, he was the same player.’ O’Neal was just as harsh in his criticism of Howard when he was on ESPNLA 710 last month. ‘He’s too nice,’ O’Neal said. ‘I’m a connoisseur of giggling and playing and all that and making you laugh and playing with the fans, but when I cross that line, I’m ready to tear your face off. I don’t care who it is. You could put one of my aunts or uncles out there, and I’m going to give him these elbows in their chest and I’m going to throw it down in their face. That’s what you have to do. … He’s just too nice. If I was him, I would get into the same mood I was in.’”

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  • shockexchange

    Why is Kareem criticizing players from other teams? Shouldn’t he focus on helping develop Pau Gasol / Chris Kaman at the same ____ time?

  • johnz

    You can do what you want when you are the #1 in nba’s all time scoring record..

  • shockexchange

    Fair point. However, Jabbar’s not randomly speaking on D12′s game. He’s acting all butt hurt because D12 bolted for Houston. Just like LA enticed him to leave Orlando, Houston entice him to leave LA. Now they know how Orlando felt when they courted D12 and Shaq.

  • MUBWAR

    the lakers don’t like you Kareem. stop representing this organization that hasn’t appreciated you in years.

  • Cortez Mack

    Wasn’t he was criticizing him before he left too?

    …not to mention, he’s right.

  • shockexchange

    There are a lot of truths in this world. The earth is round, D12 doesn’t have a “go to” move to speak of, and the Lakers are trash … gone like the wind trash. Kareem would be better served working with Pau Gasol / Chris Kaman at the same ___ time. By the time LA is 38 games below .500 it will be too late.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Can’t really disagree with either Shaq or Kareem on this. He doesn’t have a large arsenal of moves in the post yet when healthy still manages to get you 20/15/3. Yet at the same token we’ve known this is how Howard’s attitude is for the 7 years he’s been in the league and I don’t think he’s going to change.

  • Dfrance

    Kareem doesn’t work for LA anymore does he?

  • shockexchange

    Once LA falls 38 games under .500 he may have to.

  • Martin Susman

    Both former centers are 100% on but forget to mention point blank that Dwight is a liability to any team in the 4th quarter… His inability to make a free thorw makes Shaq look like Rick Berry. (Maybe Dwight should try underarm throws) Add to everything else like talking about his fellow players, stabbing his coach in the back on National TV & so on this makes Dwight a liabilty to any team with another star that is better then he is… Hardin will want out of Houston by the end of next year, then Houston will understand what they bought…

  • LLC#12

    I’m curious to see how the balance of power will pan out between Harden and Dwight. IMO, its Hardens team, but Dwight said he’s looking forward to “being the veteran”. I can’t see a power struggle being bad enough to make Harden want to leave, though.

  • Feez_22

    LOL kareem has now criticized dwight and bynum AKA the last 2 lakers centers to spurn kareem and leave (or in dwight’s case, not even attend) his workout sessions.

    Kareem and Shaq bring up good points but i can’t get past the fact that both of these guys have had or developed problems with D12. As i noted before, Dwight pretty much didn’t bother with working out w/ Kareem. Kareem is very sensitive and probably spoke out because of that. If kareem had worked with dwight throughout his tenure with the lakers without avoiding him, kareem most likely doesn’t say some of these things.

    We all know shaq’s problems with dwight. No need to delve deeper.

    I personally hope dwight actually develops his post game. Mchale will be of bigger help than hakeem because mchale can stress the basic footwork with d12 first. Hakeem mostly teaches counters if you look at the footage. D12 needs the basic moves first. Sucks that d12 didn’t work out with kareem but mchale is the next best thing to learn some basic moves from. Footwork as well.

    I’ll just say to take these comments from the big diesel and the great kareem with a grain of salt. There is some truth to both of their comments but the fact that they both have felt slighted/disrespected by d12 needs to be pointed out here.

  • Feez_22

    Harden isn’t going to want out of houston LOL.

    Why are people all of a sudden acting like harden is one of those “My team or i’m out of here” players? Do you people forget that harden was a team player at arizona state and was a 6th man scorer/facilitator on oklahoma city? he would have STAYED in okc even with his 6th man status if they had paid him the maximum. This is a fact. Harden is the polar opposite of a say Kobe Bryant and to imply otherwise just shows me that you or anyone else whom agrees with you knows nothing about what james harden is as a player.

    Harden will have NO PROBLEMS with dwight howard in terms of whose “team” it is. That is not his mentality. If that was his mentality, he would have demanded a trade from okc because he was a 6th man and because he was the 3rd option scorer. The $$$$$$ was the primary reason he left okc (offered a contract less than what ibaka got) and HEAVILY RECRUITED DWIGHT… dwight and harden were actually hanging out all june in houston!

    Dwight isn’t a liability to teams with other stars better than him. Dwight just doesn’t like kobe bryant for obvious reasons. Talk about talking about your fellow teammates… kobe actually said the lakers can’t wait for d12′s back to heal. that is just plain selfish period. D12′s first choice wasn’t LA because of kobe in the 2012 offseason and d12 left LA in large part due to mike d’antoni but also because of kobe.

  • SilentH

    A certain statue outside of Staples would disagree with you.

  • SilentH

    Pau’s game is already mature and probably the best low-post center in the game already. Kaman could use some help but even his low post game is far more complete than Howard’s.

  • AiRsMiTh

    It could be scary if McHale’s knowledge rubs off on Dwight. McHale and Hakeem giving him lessons had to have been a big factor in his decision… or maybe not.

  • losersnotwelcome

    lol! a very good one!

  • SilentH

    Dwight Howard didn’t want to any free throw lessons from Steve Nash either saying he’s going to figure this out on his own. There’s a definite pattern here and I think Kareem nailed it on the head when he said it’s a maturity issue. Dwight acts like a teenager who stubbornly refuses to listen to his “elders” and follow their advice. He’s done this with low post lessons from Ewing and Hakeem, free throws with Nash, refusing to listen to Kobe & Shaq on what it takes to become a champion, and now leaving the Lakers and their proven history of being a championship contender. He’s 27/28 years old now and by the time he matures enough to figure out he’s been doing this the wrong way, his athleticism won’t be able to carry him the way it’s been and he’ll still be years away from the skills needed to make up for the physical decline of age. In short, Dwight’s best years are past him and it’s a bitter pill to swallow now but the Lakers will be better off in the long run without him

  • Feez_22

    I think it had some impact. Harden being there probably had more of an impact but ya… I don’t see how d12 doesn’t benefit in some way having mchale teach him at first.

  • shockexchange

    So basically LA has “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L”? The Shock Exchange doesn’t disagree, but can they play better than they did last season w/o D12?

  • SilentH

    I’m not sure who you’re quoting there but I don’t see anyone saying LA has exceptionally more talent. In fact, I’d argue that they’re going to be a very mediocre team this coming year. I’ve been a Laker fan since ’79 and this is coming year is going to be one of the hardest years to watch Laker games but I’m still going to watch ‘em because I’m a Laker fan through bad and good. Thankfully, there have been far, far more good years than bad.

  • shockexchange

    LA has the premier low-post player in the L in Pau and a very good 7 footer in Kaman. Throw in Horry Jr – MJ 2.0 – and you have “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L …” unless of course Horry Jr isn’t as good as everybody claims.

  • pposse

    Miami has “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L”

  • AiRsMiTh

    Oh, of course. James Harden isn’t too far off from being one of the world’s elite guards. But I could see Dwight not benefitting from his coaches, as he hasn’t made as much progress with his game as he should have by this point in his career (his personality is questionable?). Perhaps Dwight will grow up this time, even it’s only a little bit. I won’t be mad though if he doesn’t take advantage of his resources.

  • SilentH

    I’d say the Nets, Heat, OKC, Bulls, Pacers, Golden State, and Clippers as having “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L”.

  • shockexchange

    The Shock Exchange respectfully disagrees. He believes they have equal talent to top teams in the Eastern Conference. However, The Kang has been able to do what others have erroneously given Horry Jr credit for – put his team on his back and practically will it to victory.

  • pposse

    after looking back at this years playoffs i can agree with that; but I wouldn’t say The Kang carried his team in the regular season. Wade and Bosh played like the all stars they are during those games. In the playoffs, the other talent didn’t hold up their end of the bargain, only sometimes when it mattered most.

  • SilentH

    I’m about as big a Laker homer as there is but even I’m not going to say the Lakers with a severely injured Kobe, past-his-prime Pau, injury riddled Kaman, and 40 year old Nash are even close to having equal talent to the top East teams.

  • Dfrance

    The statue that Kareem went on a nationwide b1tch and moan tour to guilt the Lakers into giving him? That one?

  • LeroyShonuff

    Dwight had Patrick Ewing on his coaching staff in orlando and didn’t improve. Worked out with Hakeem and didn’t improve. Was in LA with a plethora of Bigs and coaches and didn’t improve. It’s time to call a spade a spade. Both of those comments are hundred percent truth. The proof is in the pudding. Shaq got schooled by Ewing early in his career, added a jump hook. Hakeem, added a spin. Had kareem and improved his passing out of double teams. What has Dwight honestly improved on? Nothing at all.

  • Charles Brown

    15 championships and counting.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Exactly, i’d try to improve my free throw shooting if anything…Bump that up and he avgs 25/15/3…. but who knows…….can’t teach an old dog new tricks…

  • jma

    d12 isn’t worth of something… he proves nothing.. his game is going down now.. he can’t even carry his team to a title bid.. he has nothing on himself.. roy hibbert is much better and dominant inside player in the nba now.

  • Eric Matterson

    Good advice that Dwight needs to follow

  • Eric Matterson

    Reasons why players with great potential still need at least 2-3 years in college.

  • shockexchange

    The Heat had equal talent but “The Rules” also gave them an unfair advantage. What has the Shock Exchange wrought?

  • Eric Matterson

    McHale had better footwork than Hakeem,but Hakeem was quicker.

  • Eric Matterson

    You are definitely different from the bandwagon Laker fans of Magic, Kobe-Shaq teams.

  • Eric Matterson

    If they had better coaching they could squeeze 45-50 wins.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    For the life of me I can’t understand his lack of improvement. His form is horrible. He puts too much off hand on the ball and uses a two part motion. I don’t care if you get his ass in the gym with Ray Allen, Mark Price, and Dale Ellis I don’t think he’s going to change.

  • Justasking

    i remember when dwight was with orlando he had the benefit of having patrick ewing as an assistant coach, did dwight ever learn from patrick ewing during that time?

  • SilentH

    Respectfully disagree. McHale had excellent footwork especially for a big man and possessed one of the best low-post games then and now. His go to move was a left fade away with a up ‘n under counter move and an almost unstoppable jump hook. McHale was a monster down low. That said, Hakeem had all of the same moves and then some (Dream Shake baby) but had better footwork (they say he got it from his heavy soccer days as a youth) and was also quicker and more athletic,

  • bill

    The Lakers reverse “Dwight Howarded” Metta yesterday.

    Where’s the whining directed towards the team when they leave a player, or does that only happen when a player leaves the team?

    Business

  • SilentH

    Haha, yeah. In a way, this year may not be as frustrating as it was last year. Seeing so much talent yet so many injuries made for a real up ‘n down year. My expectations for 2013 will be pretty low and actually wouldn’t be surprised if the Lakers are a lottery team. If that happens, maybe they’ll get really lucky and get Wiggins.

  • MrJoepch .

    Really??? Didn’t the Lakers retire his jersey and put up a statue of him @ Staples Center?? Wouldn’t you wish to have a statue of your own? Man you got to get a life!!! :)

  • SilentH

    Laker fans hang in there and keep supporting the Lakers with the upcoming season.I wouldn’t be too surprised if the Lakers are a lottery team and, who knows, maybe they’ll get a little Laker luck and get the #1 pick and end up with Andrew Wiggins.

    The Lakers will have room for 2 max players in the 2014 free agency and should consider going after Kyrie Irving. Imagine you’re Kyrie and the Lakers are calling on you to be their next star PG and willing to give you a ton of cash. If you’re Kyrie, that’s going to be a difficult offer to turn down and stay in Cleveland.

    Next you use Kyrie as a key reason to lure Lebron to LA giving him a max contract. So now the Lakers will have Kyrie at the 1 (and Nash backing up), Kobe at the 2, Wiggins at 3, Lebron at 4 (with Hill backing up), and Pau at the 5. If you’re Lebron, that’s a difficult offer to turn down too as well as having your jersey be retired as a Laker and a statue someday.

    This coming season will be a really tough season to go through but it’s always darkest before it’s dawn. There are signs of a new dawn coming and it didn’t have D12 on it’s back.

  • eric

    +1

  • SilentH

    The Lakers will save nearly $30M by amnestying Metta. That’s business. On the flip side, I wouldn’t call Dwight leaving $30M on the table to go to Houston a business decision.

  • realblue10

    can’t argue against arguably the 2 greatest centers of all time.

  • IHateFatChicks

    They’re both right. He’s mediocre. Good athlete with no skills. He won’t last long in the league. He’s too emotionally sensitive, has no post moves, poor footwork, hands of stone, can’t shoot free throws, unable to understand offensive and defensive schemes. He’s a moron.

  • djgibb

    Shaq is being spiteful (as usual). Jabbar is being inciteful (as usual). Shaq’s been poking barbs in Howard from afar since he entered the league (he use to do that to Yao Ming until Sarge told him to stop). Jabbar has been working with Howard personally and knows the young man. He was making an assessment and not looking to one up the young man. Jabbar also has one of the most classic funny movie bits from a classic movie in Airplane. Shaq’s been in some movies. Can’t remember the movies let alone the lines.

  • djgibb

    Hakeem’s footwork mostly involved traveling that the refs rarely called. McHale on the other hand, may have had the best footwork in the post ever and he didn’t give up his pivot foot.

  • djgibb

    Shaq look like Rick Berry? Shaq was about as bad a clutch FT shooter as they came. Duncan, too–until this year. I bet some guy is out their with no arms that can shoot free throws with his feet better than Shaq and Howard. Its pathtic and all mental. Stop blaming hands and size. Its like a fat girl claiming, she’s fat because of bone structure. Put done those damn Doritos and gallons of soda!

  • random comment

    why do you talk in 3rd person?

  • Alan Holmes

    good point

  • JoeMaMa

    I preface my comment by saying that I thought Dwight should’ve been the MVP in ’11. Call me crazy, but you could make a strong argument for it. Anywho, I get what Shaq and KAJ are saying. They both came to LA and won multiple championships. Go back, and you find that Wilt scooped his championship. Before him, Mikan. The Lakers, love them or hate them, have an amazing history of winning titles with great bigs. I’d also posit that if Bynum had good knees, he’d enter into that discussion with a bigger role on another title team…but I digress. So Shaq and KAJ must be mystified as to why this young stud turned down more money, the keys to arguably the most storied franchise in the league (yes, yes – Boston too), and the fame he apparently so craves. I’m a bit surprised too. But only a bit. After all, we’re talking about a bunch of dudes running around with a bouncy ball.

  • bike

    When it’s all said and done, narcissism will be the word that best describes DH. He is more about being admired and the center of attention than excelling at basketball. His success to date is the result of freakish athleticism, strength and an amazing physique. He has no interest in developing better offensive skills and shooting free throws.

  • Dfrance

    2 words. Ko. Be.

    I think the whole “Dwight is scared of the bright lights” thing is overblown. You’re playing the highest level of basketball, you’re always gonna be in the spotlight. If he was scared of the light he would have stayed in Orl. He’s going to Houston now where one of the greatest centers of all time led that team to 2 chips, you don’t think that’s pressure? He didn’t have to go there.

    He just doesn’t like playing with Kobe. Doesn’t like him hogging the ball, doesn’t like being talked to like he’s Kobe’s little brother.

  • Paul Robinson

    Both shaq and kareem have rings in the plural.

  • Jose Roman

    Please, stop of giving ieas to Dwight of how to play o learn. Just remember he is not Laker anymore. He just our enemy. Just ignore him.

  • rwebb@mmhqllc.com

    Cap Knows, hes done the work, hes got the rings,
    Dwight get a clue.
    ‘Maturity-wise, he doesn’t get it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Charlie

    Howard got to the finals with and average Magic team. The Rockets will do wel with McCale as coach. LA is Kobe’s town and Howard wanted out. Kobe will want a new contract and 15-20 mil that they will give him out of loyalty. 2014 free agents are not going to LA. Lebron will stay in Miami. Carmello is Kobe and no D.

  • JoeMaMa

    Kobe’s no rose, but he’s won 5 championships. There’s an attitude that comes with that pursuit that I think would’ve served Howard well. And I don’t think Dwight’s a “big brother” type of gamer. I think that he ultimately would’ve benefitted from Kobe’s hard ass nature – and I think he did from SVG’s grinder style too. I mean, can you believe that Van Gundy actually had to say “no farting allowed” in practice because Howard was having too much fun farting?! eh…he’s a great player, but the guy needs to grow up. I don’t know if anyone on the Rockets roster will push him in that direction, and unless Morey’s willing to REALLY back McHale up (doubtful – coaches are valued at a dime/dozen, even the good/great ones), the coaching staff won’t either. I really think Kobe, especially now, sees that he can’t do it himself. He’s older, coming off a major injury, and wants to win a title SO BAD. I think he would’ve been good for Dwight’s game/growth. Oh well!

  • Dolosus

    Shouldn’t Kareem the genius be out looking for all the money he lost after his playing days?

  • 1982

    I played devil’s advocate with some friends on this subject and left them huffing and puffing at the end. I don’t think LA’s proven championship history is worth anything at all at this point. Their entire roster is waiting to fall apart at this point – and they needed Dwight a lot more than he needed them.

    His maturity is definitely an issue, as no matter where he goes he will need to accept that he has to learn to play within the current roster. His free throws are atrocious, his injury recovery is 50/50 at this point. And how much he wants-to-win vs how much he just-wants-a-trophy-handed-to-him are major questions. But Dwights best years aren’t behind him if he actually wants to play for Houston.

    The fact that everyone knew his play last year was limited by his distaste for his team situation, then it should be the same when you put him in a situation that he actually wants to be in. He chose this team this time; he listened to his options and picked the best one iho; he will now try to play hard. He’s no Tracy McGrady – where the athleticism seized up after phoning it in after too many injuries.

    As for the Lakers – there really is no future. I wasn’t merely trying to piss off my friends who were fans. I really think at this point, no one other than players without actual options (Kaman) want to play for LA right now. No one with budding talent wants to contend with Kobe on the same team. No one wants to bet on Nash and D’Antoni somehow revitalizing each others’ careers. And the Lakers really don’t have anything to offer. As they stand, they are just another early-exit-playoff-team. And Pau is just stuck in the middle of it.

    I don’t mind being wrong at all, as all it will do is offer me better basketball to watch. But I laugh whenever my friends pump their fists and curse Dwight Howard, saying they’re better off. Someone tried arguing that in 2014 they just need to pick up another Lebron or Dwight. And no matter how slowly you explain it, you can’t get across to people that there are currently no other Lebron’s and Dwights left; and none of the runner-ups have any desire to play for the Lakers. Again, I know a lot of people will run me into the ground, but I can’t really see LA doing anything until Kobe hangs em up because with him there he won’t let them go in any other direction but his.

  • Dfrance

    I agree with everything you said. Its why he got SVG canned and why he bolted outta LA for Hou. He knew Kobe wouldn’t stand for the BS childish behavior.

  • LeroyShonuff

    Mchale was fundamentally sound where you can easily teach it like a set shot per se, but Hakeem had better footwork. Let’s not forget that Mchale was able to operate due to the talent of his teammates and rarely faced double teams while Hakeem faced them nightly. Hakeem footwork allowed him to beat those night in night out

  • Slick Ric

    He did improve with Ewing, he just hasn’t improved since he’s been to the finals in 09.

  • Clos1881

    Dwight is a great player took a team of nobody’s to the finals people talk as if he’s been playing with all star talent his entire career the guys been playing with journey men and role players never a great point guard to make the game easier and he’s still a dominant player I know he has a lot to improve on but you can’t deny how good he is when shaq and Barkley or any of those guys start saying he’s not the best big in the league and you see Dwight’s numbers are better coming of back surgery and torn labrum is pretty impressive

  • Michael Ostrowski

    1982,

    Let’s see if Houston wins a championship or even gets there. Did you pick out a desk to hide under in the event Howard is a bust? Guys like you make me laugh and vomit. You know deep down Houston will be a classic ten games over .500 bust and Interpol will not be able to find you next year at this time. Boring. They won’t even finish ahead of the Lakers – the “old Lakers”.

  • bike

    I question how much money he really turned down. After taxes, he’s probably doing the same or better in Texas versus CA. Evidently, being ‘the man’ is more important to him than bright lights and big city.

  • SilentH

    I appreciate this well thought out reply and I agree with many of its points about the Lakers as they relate to the upcoming 2013 season. In fact, I wouldn’t be too surprised if the Lakers are a lottery team this year.

    I think the narrative changes, however, next year because then the entire Laker roster (with the exception of Nash) is off the books. The Lakers will have enough cap room for 2 max contract players which puts them in the running for Lebron plus 1 more max player. IMO, they should go after Kyrie Irving because he’s going to be a special PG and if he had a choice to stay in Cleveland or go to LA for near max dollars, I think it would be difficult to turn LA down (unless your name is Dwight).

    Plus, if the Lakers do go into the lottery then the projections are that 2014 will be a strong draft led by Andrew Wiggins. Even if the Lakers don’t get Wiggins or aren’t a lottery team, they should still be able to attract 2 superstars with max contract offers and have potentially a Lebron, Kyrie, Kobe, & Pau lineup.

    As much as I dislike D’Antoni making some really stupid/silly coaching decisions (Pau high pick ‘n pop to the 3pt line, really?), I also have to admit that he didn’t have a fair roll of the dice this past season considering he only had his projected starting lineup of Nash, Kobe, Meta, Pau, & Dwight for a TOTAL of five games (which is just crazy).

    Bottom line is the Lakers do have a proven record of consistently doing what it takes when they think they can win a championship. They did so this past year when they went about $30M over the salary cap and having the most expensive roster in the league. They almost did it a couple of years ago but Stern screwed them with the Chris Paul veto. They did it in the ’90s by getting Shaq and Kobe. They did it in the ’80s with Showtime and in the early ’80s by getting the #1 pick (James Worthy) after having just won the championship. Every decade for the past 30 years, the Laker organization has gone for the fences and more often than not, hit the grand slam homerun.

    If there’s any franchise in any sport that would do what it takes to win the championship, it’s going to be the Lakers (along with the Yankees in baseball and Barcelona in soccer).

  • pposse

    he says it was 30 million he turned down; but the reality is in most cases if Dwight resigns with Houston in year 5 or goes to another team he will most likely be making 20 million or more in that season. All in all he loses 10 million dollars but with the state taxes being less in Texas than California that will probably shrink the deficit down to 8 million.

    So long as Dwight doesn’t have a career threatening injury in the next 4 yrs or his level of play doesn’t severely drop off then yeah he loses around 8 million dollars and not 30 million like he tried to make the public believe.

  • 1982

    Houston isn’t going to win a championship anytime soon. I don’t think anyone besides you assumes that’s what I meant. Houston was better than the Lakers last year. Are you really suggesting that the Lakers are going to be better this year?

  • Dirk White

    Kareem can talk. Shaq can not talk because he should have went down as the best big man who has ever lived but he is not in my top 5 because of his laziness . You could not ask for a better player than Kareem in my opinion the best big man to ever play the game and he was a real man thank you Kareem. Dwight Howard is a BIG GOOFBALL I have been saying this for years . I remember him when he was in high school in Atlanta he is the same player now that he was then . Howard wants to be the guy who walks into a gym, mall, high school and all the 8-15 year old boys come up to him and tell him how great he is . Believe it or not this is all that matters to Howard. He knew that Kobe did not approve of his clowning around all the time and when he got on the floor he was not effective .We all know guys like Dwight they are great they will make everyone laugh but the difference is Dwight is a NBA player who should be a super star. Howard came right out of high school to the NBA he is not the first player to do so he should be a lot feather along in his game than he is.Shaq is right he and Howard are a lot a like both are Goofballs the only difference is Shaq is bigger and taller.Howard may be gay I am not saying this to be nasty I am really serious all the signs are there. Who is going to leave the Lakers to go some where else ? No one. Howard is acting just like a woman all emotional . I am so glad he is gone now if we can just get rid of this coach. The Laker will be fine Howard hurt this team because he wanted to make Kobe fail and he did. Kobe would not be hurt if Howard would have played his part.

  • JA K

    It’s reallly pathetic how much LA fan is crying over this. Last week was “oH DWIGHT WE LOVE YOU PLEASE STAY” …then he leaves and…”AH WE DIDN’T WANT YOU ANYWAY YOU JERK! YOU SUCK BLAH BLAH” hahah funny LA fan…it’s ok at least football season’s right around the corner and your team will help you take your mind off of this…OH WAIT! Hahahahahaha

  • JA K

    That’s because Ewing freaking sucks, he always has- very overrrated!

  • JA K

    Everyone travels, Kobe’s the worst and also at carrying the ball…MJ, Harden, LBJ they all travel.

  • Michael Ostrowski

    1982,

    The burden is on you – hey that rhymes! I am simply saying Howard is a Cooney type stiff. That’s all. Let’s see if a Michael (185 lbs.) Spinks, causes the stone cold stiff, Howard to bust again. I say yes. You say no. I claim your bar is to make it to the NBA finals. I win if Houston does not make it to the finals. The true bottom line is – I say Howard is a bust, you say no. Finally Cooney = Howard – case closed. Please do not hide under a desk a year from now? Yes, I believe Lakers finish higher than Rockets, but this is not the main issue – the main issue is whether or not Howard is a bust. I consider this boring, You don’t. That is where we differ. Time will tell.

  • LakeShow

    Just because he’s not in your top 5 doesn’t mean he’s not top 5.

    KAJ

    Shaq

    Hakeem

    Wilt

    Russel

    Who’s better than Shaq outside of those guys?

  • SilentH

    Agreed that’s the tier 1 of historical centers. On a 2nd tier, I’d put Moses Malone, Robinson, and Ewing. On a 3rd tier, I’d have Alonzo, Bill Walton, Mikan, Willis Reed, and Dwight.

  • pposse

    so DH is the basketball version of Michael Jackson? haha interesting theory

  • OfftheWall87

    Heard this many times…until Jim Buss is sent home by his sister, the Lakers aren’t the same as they used to be with Dr. Buss. When superstar free agents meet with him and they are told that they are just there to play and not to offer any advice on personnel, they’ll go elsewhere. Neither LeBron nor Melo will be going to LA next summer. They just better hope to be bad enough to draft a potential superstar in next year’s draft. Otherwise, they’ll be mediocre for the next few seasons. Say what you want about Dwight’s maturity, but this summer, he’s shown that he’s growing. Leaving LA after hearing what they had to say, which wasn’t much, was a grown man move. He’s going where he wants to go only because it’s what HE wants. Not because he wants to make everyone like him or he doesn’t want to disappoint anyone. That’s how he used to make decisions. I’m glad he’s maturing.

    Kareem is the man, everyone knows that. But he wouldn’t have said a word if Dwight was going to sign with the Lakers tomorrow. So this is more about him leaving the franchise than anything else.

  • OfftheWall87

    And as for Shaq, let’s also remember that his biggest asset wasn’t his skillset…it was his power and strength. If he had Hakeem Olaujuwon’s body, he wouldn’t have been nearly as effective and dominant as he was. He was unusually quick and athletic for his size, but his size was what made him dominant more than anything else. So for him or anyone else to act like he was as skilled as he was powerful is nonsense. As a huge fan of AI, I watched in the 2000-2001 Finals against the Sixers as he knocked Dikembe Mutombo, Matt Geiger and Todd MacCulloch off of him more than he spun off of them or jumphooked them to death as he likes to say now. And his jumphook worked because he was able to elevate over the defender after he dislodged them with his strength. I saw him move them away and dunk on them more than anything else.

  • OfftheWall87

    Stop your ridiculousness. He carried the Magic to the Finals 4 seasons ago and he hasn’t regressed. He hasn’t gotten much better offensively, but as he is, he’s great enough to take a team to the Finals still when he’s 100% healthy which I’m sure he will be by October. Roy Hibbert is better offensively, but he couldn’t carry a team anywhere right now. It wasn’t until the playoffs this past season that he even played like a top 5 center in the league. He only averaged 12 and 8 during the regular season. He’s not dominant at all right now.

  • OfftheWall87

    Stop watching basketball if you think Patrick Ewing was overrated.

  • Junior Taylor

    For the life of me can’t understand why people continue to claim that “Hakeem schooled Shaq” in the 95 Finals when Shaq put up 29/12 on damn near 60% shooting. Also, Shaq had a jump hook early on in his career.

  • Feez_22

    Actually, dwight did improve working with ewing. Did he improve as much as people wanted him to? no. However, he definitely improved.

    If you basically just watched last yr as the basis to who you think d12 is as a player, you are mistaken. Having a bad back and posting up don’t mix. He didn’t have the core strength in the post because of that which is why he turned the ball over an inordinate amount this year and was painfully short on most of his post shots.

    When he gets healthier then i will gauge. However, d12 was getting owned by a bunch of centers this year that he would have obliterated last yr or 2 yrs ago so we need to take this into account.

    BTW, i think patrick was a great player. He himself had to learn how to score in the post in the nba because of his mechanical style of play. However, i believe mchale/hakeem are better post game teachers because they simply have more post skills to teach. Charles barkley pointed out that d12 doesn’t know how to effectively post yet. I’m sorry but that is more of an indictment on patrick ewing as that should have been the FIRST thing patrick should have taught him.

    BTW, D12 gets a pass from me for not improving in LA. Dude was injured basically until post all star break (and still wasn’t 100%), was in a situation he basically didn’t like from the jump (from coaches to teammates) and was the fall guy in LA for everything. He was clearly miserable and injured to boot. The dude didn’t want to be there which is one of the reasons why he looked disinterested in the game for the first time in his career. Obviously d12 needs to be accountable for his skills and progression as a player but the LA experience was a 1 yr experience riddled with BS all over.

    Honestly, d12′s best big man coach was that guy orlando hired when he was a rookie/2nd yr player (i forget his name but he taught d12 a lot). Mchale will teach d12 the basics.

  • George Avila

    The same adulation that Los Angeles gave him is the same that Houston is giving him. It is that adulation that has effectively prevents his maturation on the court. In short, he’s sucked in Orlando, in LA., will suck again in Houston. That said, good luck DH.

  • Jimmy W May

    His inability to make free throws, especially in a clutch situation, speaks volumes towards his lack of athleticism and confidence. He will continue to be a dysfunctional energy in the NBA until his “shelf life” expires.

  • Chronicle Robe

    Howard is a boy in a man’s game. Size doesn’t make you a man. Howard is 3 times bigger than Napoleon, but Napoleon was 3 times more man than Howard.

  • OfftheWall87

    How does missing free throws speak to his lack of athleticism? Anyone who uses the phrase “lack of athleticism” in the same sentence with the name Dwight Howard is crazy and hasn’t been paying attention since 2004 when he came into the league.

  • OfftheWall87

    That boy carried a team to the Finals.

  • Snappa

    I thought OKC traded Harden? Or was there more to it?

  • ALakerFan

    Magic came into the league in 1979/80. So you’re claiming someone that has followed the Lakers for 33 years is a bandwagon fan ? Congrats for having the most moronic post I’ve ever read.

  • Nick

    LOL @ this idiot “1982″ for even commenting about basketball. First of all, he stole his “opinion” from ESPN which are fools in their own right. Second off, you just made the point for your friends that are fans of the Lakers. If you don’t have a player who doesn’t want to be somewhere, OF COURSE YOU’RE BETTER OFF WITHOUT HIM!! As for all your other comments after, just repeating what’s been read on ESPN by news anchors who read their own opinions off a teleprompter. What’s next? you’re going to claim the Celtics are rebuilding as well? hahaha thank you Captain Obvious.

  • Nick

    P.S. the fact you think Dwight is a top 5 player shows your knowledge of basketball.

  • Jeff Bullock

    This is the same Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who whined and cried his way out of Milwaukee in the Seventies – he should think back before he comments.

  • Dagger

    Are you seriously comparing a basketball player to a legendary general to argue that the basketball player can’t dominate basketball games? Hilarious.

  • Eric Matterson

    Read the post carefully. I did not say that you were a bandwagon fan. I said the ones that stopped following the Lakers after Magic retired and after Kobe and Shaq broke up.

  • 1982

    I don’t read ESPN. Thanks for assuming I know enough to write professionally.

  • Fred Legend

    Lakers 2014 first round pick belongs to the Bobcats I think for that Sessions trade. And 2015 belongs to Phoenix for that Nash trade. Not very smart giving their picks away.

  • TruDat

    I think it’s great that someone told LA to NO, and that all the “Laker greats” can’t believe that anyone would deny the “empire”. So what? he didn’t want to play there, so he left. It happens all the time. Besides the fact that the Lakers are old and Kobe is bi polar.

  • rick

    How can you say that houston was better than the lakers last year?
    and 1982, while you do make some nice points…especially about kobe (i am 1 laker fan looking forward to his retirement), its a hard pill to swallow when you say that their championship history means nothing at all. i may be taking that out of context and not understanding what you mean, but ive been watching since 78 or so and have enjoyed watching the lakers win a title more often than any other team in the nba since the merger. that history means alot. it means we wont be down for long. the lakers have had more of the best players in history play for them. the kobe era is closing and we all know this. its almost time to reload. thats what the lakers do. so we will be down for a couple years. it happens, but just not as much to laker fans as other teams. im sorry you dont have a winning team or maybe even any title banners, jerseys, tshirts, memorabilia because your team hasnt won. maybe some day.

  • rick

    thats the stupidest comment ive read all day. i bet you’re under 30.

  • rick

    i once heard or read the following comment…..
    “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt”

    sir, you should try this.

  • samuel

    atl has nothing so send him their .is home

  • Shooting Guard

    $88million

  • Marcus Hardin

    AMEN KAREEM!!
    good luck houston…
    GO WARRIORS!!!!!

  • Tyrone

    Abdul-Jabbar is one to talk. In his last 4 yrs. with the Lakers, he rarely played
    defense or rebounded.

  • havoc33

    I’m not sure if we’re talking best footwork or postup player here, they’re in many ways connected, but McHale was in a league of his own. I remember reading Bill Simmon’s Book of Basketball, and he listed the number of post moves McHale had. Abso-fucking-lutely ridiculous. His moves, counter moves, counter to the counter move far surpassed anyone else in the history of the game. In his prime there was nothing you could do. Barkley have been gushing about McHale more than once as well, calling him the most unstoppable player he ever faced in the post.

  • R O 3

    Right on Kareem, nuff said !

  • havoc33

    Howard was the most important player for them overall, but he will probably always need someone to close out games for him. Hedo Turkoglu was amazingly clutch for them in the Playoffs that year. Without him, the Magic would have gone nowhere.

    I wonder how much juicing really went on with that team though. Remember Rashard Lewis first tested positive in the 09 playoffs, and then later on Turkoglu.

  • TJ

    I said the exact same thing Kareem did all Dwight does is turn it over in the post.

  • Anthony Costa

    There is so much pressure playing for the Lakers, following in the footsteps of legends, that I’m content to wait for a very special player. Forget Lebron; nobody, not even Magic or Kobe, are bigger than the franchise, than the history of the Lakers. Kobe understands that and has carved his own distinct legacy. Lakers need to wait for a special player to realize how lucky they are to play for this team and have that desire to win instead of continuing to settle for players like Dwight.

  • Andi_S

    Shaq’s FT% in the 4th quarter is higher than in any other quarter. Howard’s FT% in the 4th quarter is lower than in any other quarter. There’s the difference.

  • Andi_S

    Didn’t Howard already work with Hakeem in the past? I remember they spent 2 summer’s together. Still no post game. At this point, he’ll likely never have a decent post game.

  • Andi_S

    Your basketball knowledge seems to be very overrated too!

  • Andi_S

    Lakers have kept their 2014 first round pick. They gave their 2013 first round pick to Cleveland for Sessions, 2015 and 2017 first round picks to Phoenix for Nash. For Howard they’ve lost Bynum and a bunch of second rounders.

    The Lakers will only have two, maybe three picks in the next 4 years. A first round pick in 2014 and 2016 and maybe a second round pick in 2015. As a Lakers fan I honestly hope we don’t make the playoffs to end up with a lottery pick. If we make the playoffs with this roster it’ll be a first round loss anyway.

  • shutup

    INSIGHTFUL…..

  • Andi_S

    Andrew Wiggins would be obviously a great addition for any team.

    Personally I’d much rather go after Paul George. Can’t and don’t want to see LeBron in purple & gold. George is from Los Angeles and when grew up he watched the Lakers and idolized Kobe. He’s also just 23 with a lot upside. LeBron is clearly the best player in the league but will also turn 29 by the end of the year. He improved his jumper and his post work but we still have to see how he responds when he can’t rely on his athleticism as much anymore.

    Kyrie or John Wall (whom I also really like) would fill our point guard spot nicely. Would still need a big man though. The problem with all of these three players (George, Irving, Wall) is, they’ll be all restricted free agents. So their teams are likely to match any offers. It’s not impossible to get them but it won’t be easy.

  • Steven Zahl

    Jabar never had to play with a Kobe.

  • ranfan

    Come now. If duncan and blake can improve, there’s still room for howard to shoot up to at least 65%. Maybe he just can’t handle the pressure. He shoots them pretty well in practice. In the game at orlando, he started sinking nearly all of them when he was getting hacked.

  • ranfan

    Maybe it’ll turn into a one two punch or something. A shooting guard and a good forward/center,

  • Feez_22

    Yes okc traded harden but it was because harden and his agent quasi-forced okc’s hand. They basically told okc that they should trade him now or lose him this season and okc didn’t want to take that risk. Okc kinda panicked and traded him last yr (they could have traded him this year for a 2014 unprotected pick and could have contended with james this yr since with james, who knows if westbrook still has that freak injury).

  • Feez_22

    Yup for sure. This is basically d12′s last chance to truly develop. he is in his athletic prime and needs to develop the moves going into the later stages of his career. If he doesn’t grow up and doesn’t commit, it will be a shame and will kill the rockets chances at a true championship run in the future.

  • OfftheWall87

    Penny Hardaway, Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, those were Shaq’s closers. Dennis Scott, Robert Horry, Derek Fisher…those were Shaq’s 3 point shooters who hit shots in critical moments. Compare that to Turkoglu, Rashard Lewis, Jameer Nelson (before he got hurt)…those were Dwight’s guys. Most big men need guards/wing players to close out games. The Magic’s shooters got those shots only after the ball had been thrown in the paint to Dwight.

    As for the juicing, I’m not going to implicate anyone who wasn’t caught. Highly doubt Dwight had anything to do with it though. His workout regimen was pretty well-known. No drugs needed.

  • pposse

    if d wade plays like the way he plays in the regular season during the playoffs these past two years, it would have been painfully obvious how much greater of a team Miami is then all other teams. When the Heat went on their 28 game win streak, D Wade was on fire for a big part of that run. His shooting percentage was at like 55 and he was scoring rebounding and assisting, playing d; he was by far the second best player on the court next to Lebron James.

    It just so happens that he dropped the ball so to speak in the playoffs the last two years, so everyone keeps saying how he’s not the same player he was and amplify Lebron’s game as a result. With a healthly D Wade i’m looking at the Heat getting 70 wins next year and dominating the playoffs. Only one team will stand in their way..and you all know who that is!

  • havoc33

    Sure, most centers will need help from their wing players. That doesn’t change the fact that Howard is a very limited offensively, and is extremely turnover prone. He is in more need of help down the stretch than any other of the great bigs throughout history. And please, let’s not compare him to Shaq. Shaq was a different animal altogether.

  • OfftheWall87

    With those limitations, he still got them to the Finals. Compared him to Shaq because he wasn’t all that skilled either. Like Dwight, his biggest asset was his power and strength. Had a few moves. But they worked because of his strength. Shaq never was the most skilled big man in the league, just the most dominant. There’s a difference. Like Dwight who’s not the most skilled now. Far from it. But he is the most physically dominant.

  • OfftheWall87

    Also not sure he needs more help down the stretch than any other great big throughout history. They’d just foul Shaq late in games and watch him miss half his free throws just like they do now with Dwight.

  • JA K

    Tell me what Ewing won? Exactly, nothing.

  • JA K

    And you seem to be clouded by homerism most likely.

  • JA K

    No rick (lower case for noun) I’m not under 30, 37 actually and so I clearly remember Ewing getting his ars handed to him each time he went up against elite talent. What did he win? Wait I’ll answer that for you…NOT A DAMN THING!. He was a stiff which again, up against elite talent, he got his ass served. How he got into the Hall of Fame is beyond me, maybe b/c of the biased media since he played in NY.

  • OfftheWall87

    Barkley, Malone, Stockton…were all of them overrated too? Find another sport to care about.

  • JA K

    I never said that. Ewing was NEVER was a clutch player, he shot jumpers instead of posting up and dominating his will on his defenders! Go watch his highlights and you’ll see or I can provide a link for you if you don’t know how to find youtube. I hope “87″ isn’t the year you were born either b/c if so then I’m wasting precious megabytes debating with you.

  • JA K

    WOW can you believe that I’m not alone in this, hell there was even a DISCUSSION ABOUT IT! Where there’s smoke there’s fire old man…

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17803-colin-cowherd-patrick-ewing-is-overrated

  • OfftheWall87

    Don’t need to watch highlights. I watched him play. You sound like a complete idiot calling Patrick Ewing overrated just because he didn’t win a championship. Going by what you think about him, it sounds like you were born in the 90s. Complete embarrassment. What were you doing during the 90s when he was getting all of those 26 and 11 games? You can’t be dumb enough to think that he was just shooting jumpshots. And what 37 year old says phrases like “freaking sucks”? There are so many guys here who are younger than you and know a lot more than you about the game.

  • JA K

    Ok so you admitted I was 37 yet questioned whether or not I was born in the 90s? Hmm…you’re all over the place little boy, get your facts straight then bring your A game.

    Apparantley it’s been brought up before, like I said- where there’s smoke there’s fire…oh and you sound like a complete Knick fan, tsk tsk, not good to have rose colored glasses when debating little boy:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17803-colin-cowherd-patrick-ewing-is-overrated

  • OfftheWall87

    Don’t care about the Bleacher Report. And I didn’t question whether you were born in the 90s or not. I’m wondering what you were doing because you weren’t watching the Knicks play. Patrick Ewing was on the Dream Team, the greatest team ever assembled probably. Don’t care about your smoke or fire. I watched him play. Not a Knick fan, I’m a basketball fan. You look ridiculous to everyone here saying that Ewing is overrated. Not one person seems to agree with you here. Where were you when he averaged 26 and 11 against Jordan and the Bulls in the Conference Finals and took them to 6 games? 19 and 12 against Hakeem and the Rockets in the 94 Finals? Go sit down old man.

  • JA K

    You don’t care about the BR article that was written by a well known journalist in Cowherd?? HAHAHAHAHA such a mancrush response from you. Your confrontational tone leads be to believe that you don’t like getting hit with the truth. Good, well here’s more…while your overrated “soft in the paint” Ewing was shooting jumpers to avoid contact and scoring a laughable 19 and 12, Hakeem was schooling his ass for 29 and 11 in that same finals you’re bragging about. Yeah he was on the Dream Team but so were Mark Price and Dan Majerle, your point? If you think I’m saying that Ewing wasn’t deserving of some of those accolades then you’re wrong, he was a very good player, just not HOF worthy nor deserving of the notoriety he gets IN MY OPINION. And yes, I’m old man enough to admit that my initial comment was vague and quite strong but overall I know I’m not alone in this. Google “Ewing overrated?” and see what you get…you won’t get that if you google Hakeem or MJ or Malone overrated- GUARANTEED! And this old man is sitting down little boy, don’t tell me what to do you’re not the boss of me!!

  • OfftheWall87

    …Neither Mark Price nor Dan Majerle were on the Dream Team. Go sit down lol. Hilarious.

  • JA K

    And you’re right ma’am, that was just a regular Team USA qualifier team that they were a part of. But wow he wasn’t even good enough to be on that one lol

  • OfftheWall87

    Anyone who doesn’t know who was on the actual 92 Dream Team isn’t a basketball fan at all. You’ve done a great job of embarrassing yourself. Pure entertainment for those of us who know what we’re talking about.

  • OfftheWall87

    And Ewing was on that team stupid. You’re a complete joke. Watch baseball. Maybe you’ll do better with that.

  • JA K

    And you ma’am don’t know how to read as I’d corrected myself. I like how aggressive you get when proven wrong btw :)

  • OfftheWall87

    That picture is from 96…not 1992. The Dream Team is from 92, not 96 lol. Pure hilarity. You haven’t proven anything except how idiotic you are. You lost. Patrick Ewing wasn’t overrated. He is a part of the greatest team ever assembled from 1992. He’s a Hall of Famer. Nothing you can do about it. Keep whining about it some more if you’d like to.

  • JA K

    Ok so you don’t know how to read, you’re blind and stupid, nice trifecta = pretty much a retard that doesn’t know how to admit when wrong. THAT’S THE 1994 team you idiot!! hahaha OMG…I refuse to waste any more of my time debating with Helen Keller.

  • rick

    you say you’re 37 yet you communicate like you’re 14. grow up brother.

    ewing….hmmm, lets see. in 1996 named top 50 player OF ALL TIME. thats no little thing brother. 21pts a game as well as 10 rebs and 2.4 blocks. yep, not very good at all. i could read his entire stat line to ya, but you probably wouldnt believe that either. its cool you have an opinion, however clouded it might be for one reason or another. there are many great players that didnt win titles, so you really cant measure how many titles one has in a team sport to determine their worth. robert horry. derek fisher. you know. charles barkley. karl malone.

  • rick

    what 1994 team are you referring to? certainly not olympics. ewing, as you probably already know, was on the 92 dream team. im just getting around to reading your comments and this discussion you had with offthewall…..you’re not very smart. if you’re gonna try and post facts, at least go to wiki man. oh….and i understand your nose is still up olajuwons ass. hence the reason you dont like ewing. i get it man. and for the record, i would also agree that hakeem was a better player. but ewing was a great player. all the accolades and awards dont go to fools.

  • JA K

    I guess my form of communication combined with your lack of grammar skills tally up to 18 years old “brother”.
    All you have to do is look around the net to see that I’m not the only one that’s thought this. I never said he didn’t deserve some of the acollades he got but a weak, no contact liking, fade away jumping center IMO is not one of the great ones…again IMO…we still have those right “brother”?

  • JA K

    Thanks but I stopped reading fortune cookie inserts a long time ago, you sir should try as well. This is a forum to speak up so kinda hard to stay quiet, something called “defeating the purpose”.
    Plus LA fan gets their vagina hurt one time and you guys are up in arms about it when all the other times you’re throwing “look how good our team is and how many banners we have” into people’s faces…like your wise center once said “Kobe, tell me how my ars taste!”

  • Jimmy W May

    Ok, you got me…he is an incredible NBA talent. You win and you’re right, much of America hasn’t been paying attention and could really care less.

  • Jack Burton

    Just saw Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on First Take absolutely talking nonsense about Dwight Howard. Pretty much doing Kobe’s and the Lakers’ bidding and saying Howard does nothing to help his team win. That he doesn’t have a high basketball IQ because he can’t shoot free throws. This guy is first rate scum and I hope he has some nasty karma coming to him. I’m not Howard’s biggest fan but no one deserves that type of character assassination and slander. Stephen A. Smith looked awe struck and didn’t have anything to say because he couldn’t believe what he was hearing. This has Kobe written all over it and the fact that Kareem is getting a statue now, which he lied about. I heard stories about how this guy was a jerk but I didn’t know he was a low class human being. Scumbag. He then said that preparing for Howard in the 2009 Finals was an “easy job”. Just personally attacking the guy after the fact. After the fact that he left Kobe Bryant, who is an awful teammate. And ESPN is gutless because they have this idiot on to whore his book and then let him say whatever he wants and don’t challenge him no matter how wrong it was factually and morally. I hope McHale shoves a Nike up his ass. Kareem is a gutless coward.

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