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Tuesday, July 30th, 2013 at 6:21 pm  |  89 responses

Pistons To Acquire Brandon Jennings For Brandon Knight


by Ryne Nelson / @slaman10

It’s official—the Pistons and Bucks have agreed to a sign-and-trade that would send Brandon Jennings to Detroit with a three-year, $24 million deal, according to Yahoo:

The Detroit Pistons have reached an agreement in principle to acquire Brandon Jennings in a sign-and-trade deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Pistons are finalizing a three-year, $24 million contract with Jennings, sources told Y! Sports. Detroit will send guard Brandon Knight, forward Khris Middleton and center Slava Kravtsov to the Bucks, sources said.

Other reports have Jennings’ contract worth in excess of $25 million but, regardless, is well below what Jennings was looking for. With Jennings out of town, Milwaukee will try to groom the 21-year-old Knight as their franchise point guard.

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  • Ishmael Jenkins

    What a great pickup. He will help Andre Drummond’s development quite a bit with his love of passing and getting his teammates in a rhythm offensively.

  • RayJr

    Feel sorry for Knight, but the Piston are going to be fun to watch next year.

  • LakeShow

    Hopefully change of scenery is good for both of them.
    Jennings is a slight upgrade for Det.

  • RayJr

    lol nice love the sarcasm

  • jub_al

    so… they go get OJ Mayo and exchange Brandons with Detroit… no offense to Brandon Knight, but why would the Bucks do that?

    They’re under the cap aren’t they? Or is this just a case of cheap owner(s)? They’re similar in age, and I find it hard to believe that Knight is a better player than Jennings… I was looking forward to a Jennings, Mayo backcourt.. would’ve definitely been better than Ellis and Jennings…

    Somebody please enlighten me…

  • LakeShow

    He is a better PG than Knight… Not saying much, but he is.

  • robb

    I think he’s gonna improve and become more regular. With Mau Cheeks and Billups there he’s gonna learn a thing or two. Good for him.

  • daBiz

    Jeff Teague is their new starting PG. He ran point for Coach Drew last year in atlanta.

  • daBiz

    couldn’t agree more. not to mention that he’ll be surrounded by more talent than he’s ever played with. Good pickup. Pistons look like they could battle Cleveland, Washington, and the Hawks for one of the last 3 playoff spots.

  • jub_al

    ? last i heard, Teague is staying in Atlanta….

  • Nique55

    Jennings and Smith on the same team………… wow! Let the terrible shot selection RAIN!!….. Joe Dumars is a terrible GM!!

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Exactly, not saying much. Mostly because Knight is just one year in. Jennings has shown enough for us to know what he is. What he is isn’t what will help Monroe or Drummond especially. And it also won’t help Josh Smith. There will be a lot of guys upset because they’re not getting the ball unless Mo Cheeks gets Jennings in line and teaches him how to step back and get his teammates involved. Billups, who had to learn the same thing, may be able to help. But I’ll believe it when I see it.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Getting him for $8 mill a year and only really giving up Knight? Say what you want about Jennings, but this is good for Detroit

  • RipCity

    it’s a great move! Detroit should be so fun to watch next year with Jennings, Smith, Drummond and Monroe

  • Roy Blumenfeld

    Why would they give up on Knight so early on? And why trade him for another point guard? They still have Stuckey/Will Bynum/Billups.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Dumars isn’t that bad. He’s cleaned up some of his mess over the past two years. But yes, a lot of bad shots will be thrown up.

  • LakeShow

    Start believing a little more man. You’ll enjoy life more.

  • cflip

    Really worried about Drummond’s development with two headcases in Jennings and Smith coming to the team. Yay for fun, inefficient, losing basketball.

  • spit hot fiyah

    billups is basically a coach at this point, bynum is not starter material and stuckey is much more of a 2. i guess they figured that the knight experiment was over and that he wasn’t who they thought he was as basically look at jennings as a upgrade at a fair price

  • Feez_22

    I’m looking at twitter and am seeing a bunch of people now overrate brandon knight because of their pure disdain for brandon jennings’ game.

    This is how i, a person that watched upwards of 60 pistons games last yr feel about knight. If the pistons had given up knight in a salary dump, it would have been addition by subtraction. I really believe that. Jennings may be a bit overpaid atm but letting knight go will benefit this team.

  • spit hot fiyah

    they are not headcases, they just like to shoot to many shots that they are not very good at. which could impact drummonds development, but he has a great chance to increase his offensive rebounding numbers

  • spit hot fiyah

    you watched 60 pistons games?! are you alright after that experience? mentally and physically?

  • Feez_22

    jennings is one thing but josh smith is a pretty willing passer. He didn’t negatively affect al horford’s game or anything like that. The prob is the random jumpers he takes.

  • Feez_22

    lol i am definitely holding up haha. it was a really tough experience but i know exactly what knight is and what he will project to be after watching all of those games lol.

    The only thing that made some of those games watchable was watching drummond to be honest. When drummond missed a month and a half with that stress fracture, i honestly could not watch anymore lol.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    After I see it, I’ll believe it.

  • afannaz

    perhaps jennings should just be glad to have a job at this point, after getting very little action from other teams. unrealistically, he wanted $11-12 million per, as did ellis. see what they both did there?

  • Nathan Shane Long

    PG.JENNINGS
    SG.BILLUPS
    SF.SMITH
    PF.MONROE
    C.DRUMMOND

    BENCH KCP,STUCKEY,BYNUM,SINGLER,DATOME,VILLANUEVA

    PLAYOFF QUALITY ROSTER

  • spit hot fiyah

    nice to hear man, seems like u have recovered. u should start piston watchers anonymous (from 07-13) u could probably really help some people out

  • Dagger

    The Pistons might not be a contender, not even in the foreseeable future, but in the past couple of years Dumars has done a lot to rebuild his reputation. Good to see the Pistons relevant again!

  • JC

    Billups still believes he will start.

  • ctk

    Both teams r still n the hunt for the 8th seed …didn’t gain or lose either size

  • ctk

    Side

  • Nathan Shane Long

    I think the Pistons got the better end of the deal they a good point guard in Jennings while the Bucks got the CORPSE OF BRANDON KNIGHT

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Yeah, I didn’t see Brandon Knight being more than a Leandro Barbosa type player at any point in his career. Jennings does bad things, but he’s still a good player. As long as the Pistons aren’t trying to win with him shooting 15+ shots a game, they will be a playoff staple for the next few years.

  • Feez_22

    lmao haha we definitely need a focus group. Watching knight and stuckey (unquestionably the worst starting backcourt in the nba last year) was so horrible. Far cry from watching rip/chauncey back in the mid 2000s

  • Feez_22

    True. I honestly don’t know if mo cheeks is the right coach for this team. We will see but he is used to coaching high volume shooters at the pg position (iverson, jrue to an extent, westbrook as an assistant). he has to reel in jennings.

    The more disturbing part about this is if billups still expects to start. That situation could get pretty awkward. Billups is my guy but he is way past it.

  • Roy Blumenfeld

    Billups said he planned on starting. Stuckey might play like a two, but he is the size of a point guard. And I never said Bynum was starter worthy, he’s an energy guy, but he is worthy of 20 minutes per game.

    This looks like a mess in the making to me.

  • Max

    Have you watched the Hawks?
    JSmoove and Al had great chemistry and he got Al atleast 2 easy buckets each game.

  • robb

    People are worried about him and Josh taking bad shots, and it’s understandable, but being in a new city with talented players and good mentors will help him develop. Talent has never been the problem, he just needs the right influence, he needs to learn to play smarter. This is actually a very good situation for him and hopefully he will be grateful for this chance, because honestly what he was asking for money wise was very unrealistic.

  • BugEyes

    This team has way to many lefty handers now lol they got like 4. Whole teams opposing defense shade right

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Yes, now Detroit will SURELY set the record for lowest Team FG% in league history….. Jennings, Chauncey, josh smith… Heavens…..

  • RKJ92

    He is in Atlanta.. lol daBiz is clueless..

  • RKJ92

    I personally think this is a great move for Detroit, say what you want about his shot selection but Jennings still averaged 6.5 assists so he is a willing passer, great for Drummond, and Monroe if they get fed. I’m assuming with actual good players on his team Jennings should average more assists, and take less shots; this could be a good look. Now if only Smith could take less ill advised jumpers, and stick within his true strengths to be more efficient this Pistons team could rack up some wins. No reason they shouldn’t be playoff bound now, they deff look better then my Raptors.

  • Roy Blumenfeld

    They are spending a lot of money and giving up a lot of assets to be “relevant” again.

  • Shifty

    I agree with you. How are they head cases? Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings take ill advised shots at times, so does a lot of other people in the league. Also I still think Josh Smith is a under rated player. Guy has been between 3rd to 6th,7th best forward in the league, gives you scottie pippen like numbers for his career and is only like 28 or something.

  • ATL dynamite

    number wise yes, productivity wise no. he used up nearly 80% of the team’s touches to get the statline, not mentioning his momentum changing TOs, inconsistency and foul trouble issues that the stat line doesn’t show. he is a good pickup for detroit and it ends there… don’t overrate him.

  • ATL dynamite

    larry drew likes to run slow-paced half court sets to get the bigs in position and find holes for shooters, and it’s prerequisite for players to be willing to swing the ball around. every time when players want to play too much of their own games (i.e. j smoove doing 2-3 meaningless crossovers and pull-up/ occasional devin harris’ drives after over-dribbling) the flow stops and the whole team would encounter scoring droughts (like literally 0 fg in a couple minutes).
    bk and oj are both reliable outside shooters, although they may have over-dribbled at times, at least they are not the brandon jennings type. good shooters will thrive in drew’s system – you see how kyle korver picked up his game last year at atl to earn his 500mil/year contract? a good future is ahead of bk and oj, at least on paper.

  • Wayno

    I like this move a lot. Both Smith and Jennings are the type of reclamation project players that Detroit has been successful with in the past. That entire 04 championship roster was full of castoffs and players with huge question marks who all had something to prove. I see some similarities in some of the players Detroit has now.

  • Will Lee

    Joe Dumars GM of the year!!!! Tanking for Wiggins without being fined.

  • Armando

    I agree on that this is not bad for Detroit, but imo assist numbers doesn’t necessarily say all that much about willingness to pass. There’s been enough point guards throughout history that have been ball hogs/ball stoppers and still averaged lots of assists (Marbury comes to mind). I’ve played with guards only willing to pass if they’re almost 100% certain the pass will lead to a basket so that their assist stat is padded… Doesn’t do much for ball movement, flow or actively including teammates though… Not saying that necessarily goes for BJ, just respecfully disagreeing with you point about APG (It can indicate willingness, but it might also not).

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    bk and oj are both reliable outside shooters, although they may have
    over-dribbled at times, at least they are not the brandon jennings type.
    good shooters will thrive in drew’s system – you see how kyle korver
    picked up his game last year at atl to earn his 500mil/year contract? a
    good future is ahead of bk and oj, at least on paper.

  • RKJ92

    Oh, I was only referring Jennings court vision as a PG in the league he’s actually very good at finding open teammates to get easy buckets, although sometimes he makes bonehead passes to get out of a bad shot every once in awhile; usually he’s quite crafty with the ball, and can facilitate well but I deff get what your trying to say!

  • danpowers

    dont worry man, let him start the 20 games he’ll be able to stay healthy. dont see how that should be an issue for team chemistry

  • jason

    just don’t think Greg Monroe will be getting the ball

  • jason

    Billups actually said in a interview that he was expecting to start

  • danpowers

    jennings dishes out more assists – also per 36 minutes and ast% wise – plus he shoots more at a pretty low fg% which could provide drummond with more possibilities for offensive rebounds. so dont worry about his development too much

  • danpowers

    i dont think that you can compare the young billups to jennings as billups was a combo guard with an entirely different role b4 he became the pistons’ big shot rob.

    expect jennings to improve with billups’ and cheeks’ mentoring and the scoring options smith and monroe surrounding him.
    dont worry that much about jennings point guard play. the biggest challenge for the pistons will be how smith, monroe and drummond gel, especially in terms of spacing. managing that will be the key for them to either become a legit playoff team or to disappear in mediocrity.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Jennings has to change his mindset. He’s to be worried about more than Smith, Monroe and Drummond. Monroe is a great passer, he can play with anyone. Smith is also a good passer, shot selection must be improved (stop shooting 3s altogether). Jennings will need to scale back the shooting and improve his shot selection. And pass before he even thinks about shooting because he now has guys around him who can finish. Billups said Knight needed to learn how to be more of a playmaker after he signed with Detroit a few weeks ago. That also applies to Jennings.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    More assists than who? Drummond doesn’t just need offensive rebounds. As he develops, he will need the ball in the post. I’m sure the Pistons aren’t just depending on him to grow into an offensive rebounder. They want more. That’s not the development they want. He got offensive rebounds at UConn. Jennings will need to shoot less.

  • Mars

    People on here are actually arguing about the talent levels of players from the Milwaukee Bucks and Detroit Pistons, respectfully?I think it’s a great trade for both teams, especially Milwaukee, because they are clearly rebuilding and Detroit needs to do something at point cause I love Billups, but Chauncey isn’t 04 Chauncey. Jennings finally has support to make him better, and Knight gets to grow with Henson, Sanders, and Mayo. Expect Milwaukee to tank and get Wiggins.

  • JackPackage

    An intelligent young player, who could still potentially progress towards being that all-star quality point guard. Chauncey Billups is a great mentor, as he was somewhat known more as a SG in a PG’s body but learned to be a leader and a facilitator. Great person to learn from and become a starting 5 quality player.

    Then there’s Brandon Jennings.

    Jokes aside, Milwaukee did good here, Brandon Knight is only a year in and I still like him as a prospect and a Knight/Mayo back-court will do one of two things. Allow Milwaukee to #TANK4WIGGINS or give the Bucks similar and possibly more efficient production than Jennings/Ellis… At a fraction of the price.

    What the hell are Detroit doing? Their off-season should be adapted into a book called ‘How to alienate your two franchise big men and stunt their progression’ by Joe Dumars.

    Anyone who thinks Brandon Jennings is a good PG because he averages 6.5 assists per game, is the same type of dumb-dumb who thinks Kobe Bryant is a good defender because he makes the All-defensive 2nd team.

    At least Brandon Knight has the ability to develop. At this point Jennings is what he is; a terrible volume shooter, poor facilitator, bad defender and a mercurial talent that possess the same ability to either drop 50 on a team or go 0-22 and kill your team’s offense.

    Remind me again why Detroit didn’t just draft Trey Burke after he was gift-wrapped for them?

  • LP @ThisisEther

    They may make the playoffs, but this is a sub-.500 team….I honestly don’t think they will score efficiently enough….jennings jacking up jumpers….billups jacking up jumpers….Josh smith jacking up jumpers….drummond shooting 45% from the FT line….this has offensive trainwreck all over it….

  • danpowers

    more assists than knight. he is a better playmaker than knight, jennings is clearly an upgrade. i wont argue that he has to shoot less or at least take less bad shots but as i said – getting the spacing right with that 3 bigs will be a challenge. if the pistons will be able to manage that they would be a dangerous underdog.

  • danpowers

    what do you think is more difficult for a player or more likely to accomplish? to become a better playmaker or to just shoot less?

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    He’s a better player, but not necessarily a better fit because of his mentality. They gave up on Knight quickly. Unless Brandon’s mentality changes, chemistry will be a problem.

    Heat, Pacers, Bulls, Nets, Knicks, Wizards…all better teams right now.They’ll be a 7 or 8 seed at best and a first round exit…they’re not going to upset the Heat, Pacers or Bulls.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    To become a better playmaker. Especially when a guy is only 21 years old and has experience playing with other good players like he did at Kentucky. Hard to change a mindset or instinct of a guy who’s 4 years into the league and has had the ball in his hands so much with so much freedom since high school.

  • danpowers

    im optimistic and hope he will change because of his new surrounding.
    sure these teams appear better now (except maybe the wizards) but i expect smith and jennings to cut their “bad shooting antics” for the sake of success. they wont necessarily provide a playoff upset this year but they will do this once within the next three years given that core of smith, monroe, drummond and jennings stays together and gets spared of major injuries.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    3 years is a long time to try to predict. The Heat may look different. Bulls too. So many transactions, teams trading guys out of nowhere, etc. Too much to know what will happen in 3 years. I hesitate to even predict anything about next season sometimes.

  • einstein101

    Don’t think they gonna keep jennings!!! Pistons want Rondo and gonna try put BJ into a package to get him

  • danpowers

    hm dont think so, it also takes a little bit of dna to be a good playmaker. more often than not its just you either have it or not. not saying knight couldnt improve there, i just wonder if he will be able to make a leap in a way that he would ever be better than jennings.

    talking about the better fit: i rlly dont think that jennings will hve the same freedom that he used to have and he would be flat out stupid not to take advice from billups n cheeks

  • danpowers

    sure, but just look at their overall talent. monroe is a great player already, i love drummond’s upside and smith is an all star calliber guy. jennings aint too bad neither if he could just improve his shot selection a little. these pistons could look worse and i think dumars did a great job this year to clean up the mess he started when he signed gordon and villanueva to their ludicrous contracts.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Monroe isn’t a great player, he’s a good player. Great players are the top 10 in the league. Then All-Star level guys. Then good players. Then role players. After that, bench warmers. Monroe is in that good player category. Smith is a legit All-Star level talent. Jennings is in that good player category with Monroe, not All-Star caliber.

    Dumars has been cleaning up his mess over the past 2 years, but I can’t predict anything. All I can say is they have talent. But only one of those talents is All-Star caliber and he’s not going to go out and score 25 a night. Scoring may be a problem.

  • bike

    Not sure this is such a good move for the Bucks. Knight wasn’t the answer for their point guard but Jennings isn’t either. They did get him pretty cheap. I could easily see Jennings and Smith become one of the most hilarious pairings in the league since they are both high-usage guys who need to be saved from themselves.

  • danpowers

    “great” was a little exaggerated but i wouldnt be too suprised to see monroe on the all star team this or next season.
    scoring could very likely be a problem, but defense and rebounding will be clearly above average.

    im aware that i could be wrong but i expect them to make the playoffs which would be a good step into the right direction after those bad years.

  • bike

    Oops, meant the Pistons.

  • Pavel Sotenko

    Bj has no more excuses literally! He has J smoove, Andre and Greg. So he can not complain about not having talent around him. That being said he needs to become a pass first point and extremely work on his CONSISTENCY!…if u disagree just go back aand look at the numbers…he is talented but not CONSISTENT!!

  • RunNGun

    Detroit, the new Brick City with a high volume scorer/low-assist PG like Brandon Jennings. :) Good trade for both teams…

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Obviously they all cant hoist up “bad” shots if they all on the court at the same time you do realize Jennings had to be a volume shooter in Milwaukee because they had no frontcourt scoring his entire 4 seasons there

  • jason

    funny joke

  • jason

    on paper the pistons look like a playoff team…pg Brandon Jennings, sg Rodney stuckey sf Kyle Singler ( I think ) pf Josh smith c Greg Monroe. The only thing left now is for them to perform

  • jason

    There go Chauncey billups’s chances to start haha

  • RKJ92

    It’s gonna be, PG – Jennings, SG – Caldwell-Pope, SF – Josh Smith, PF – Greg Monroe, C – Andre Drummond — 2nd string — PG – Billups, SG – Stuckey, SF – Singler/Maggette/Datome, PF/C – Villanueva, Jerebko, Mitchell. Pistons are just missing a legitimate Center, and a legitimate SF, because none of their SF have been consistent/proven enough as of yet.

  • Ron

    Bj? Lol

  • danpowers

    lol

  • danpowers

    did you seriously try to hash tag that?

  • JackPackage

    I thought it was implied that I was hash-tagging it to highlight the ridiculousness of the notion that a multi-million dollar sports franchise would purposefully make themselves bad, in order to enter a fixed game of a chance that they have an, at best 25% chance of ‘winning’ in order to draft a gifted teenage boy, one whom may, possibly at some point lead them to the promised land.

    My use of hash-tags was to juxtapose this ridiculous notion (of purposefully losing games) with the use of Twitter hash-tags and social networking ‘movements’, popular amongst teenagers, of which Andrew Wiggins is. In order to highlight the gross inequities and corruption prevalent in today’s modern NBA.

    I’m sarcastic, you see…

  • danpowers

    i see

  • jason

    ahh ok thanks

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