Monday, August 5th, 2013 at 10:38 am  |  24 responses

John Wall to Train With Gary Payton

John Wall just signed a big deal, which only really means one thing: time to put in some work. According to CSNWashington (via PBT), Wall is going to be putting in some of said work with the one and only Gary Payton: “Wall still plans to hook up with Gary Payton, a Hall of Fame point guard who was one of the best of his generation, in Seattle before returning to train with the Wizards on Aug. 20. … Wall also is going to lobby coach Randy Wittman to allow him to do something else. ‘Hopefully I’ll get an opportunity to post up this year,’ he said. That’s where Payton, who also stood 6-4 and could be too physical for opposing point guards, could help most. Like Wall, he wasn’t the best jump shooter to start his career but became a solid one. By his fourth season, Payton shot better than 50% from the field. He only was a career 31.7% shooter from three. Wall said he has been talking to Damian Lillard, the 2012-13 Rookie of the Year for the Portland Trail Blazers, about coordinating workouts with Payton. There’s not a lot of time left for Wall to get in the work with Payton before he returns to D.C. The Wizards open training camp in the last week of September.”

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  • spit hot fiyah

    Gary payton is turning into the Olajuwon of Point guards

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Good to see he’s reaching out at a young age. Never understood why players like LeBron & D12 decided to wait until their 9th/10th season. Hopefully we see some of the Gloves’ lessons during the regular season.

  • Matisse

    This is encouraging news. Looks like that fat heavy contract hasn’t made Wall complacent. I like the initiative to want to play in the post. Gives him another gear to play in.

  • Feez_22

    Nice to see two young pg’s in lillard and wall going to GP to learn some serious defense as well as other skills. Lillard really needs the defensive lessons. Last season, he had a tough time defending a lot of guards so if he can fix that, he can become more well rounded as a player and leader.

    I think Wall is already a “good” defender but he has the tools to be a great defender. The problem with wall defensively that a lot of people who watch the wiz can ID with is he plays off his man too far and plays passing lanes way too much. It is more about wall’s bball IQ needing to improve defensively so we’ll see.

    Either way, this is a great development and i hope both can soak up the information gp gives them.

  • JibbsIsBallin

    Cool stuff. I’m sure GP will get him well trained.

  • RKJ92

    The glove is one of my favorite players EVER, I Seriously hope Wall can pick up a thing or 2. He is literally just as big as Gary, but faster.. and if they can work out on the regular every season ohhhhh mannnnnn…

  • Airness

    hope he learns from GP how to defend while trash talking

  • LakeShow

    Not nearly as strong as GP, but I get the point.
    This will bode well for him.

  • berkamore

    Good to see that young cats are reaching out to their elders more. (and kudos to Dream for starting that trend)

    Man, if John Wall can pick up some of that suffocating defense from the glove, he’s going to be something else.

  • robb

    Nice John, nice.

  • jdn41

    you cant teach heart

  • shockexchange

    Gary Payton was raised by a man and has had a man’s foot in his rear end from day one. In the Shock Exchange’s opinion, you can train with GP but it’s impossible to replicate his mentality and approach to the game. That comes from home.

  • Eldon Khorshidi

    Love it

  • RKJ92

    Lake, I don’t think there is a point guard stronger then Gary to my knowledge lol that man was a pitull.. that’s one of the reasons that made him such an elite defender!

  • RKJ92

    Word that’s pretty true it’s your bred instincts.. but sometimes you can use it to burn a fire into youngin’s like Wall so they can carry that same passion! maybe not as intense as Gary’s but it’s still a will, and a drive to win..

  • shockexchange

    SE was channel surfing about a year ago and saw footage of GP playing at Oregon St. You rarely caught PAC 10 games on the east coast back in the day. GP tried to destroy everybody at both ends of the court. It was clear there was something else driving GP … if he didn’t go at his opponents then he would have to go at his daddy, uncles, next door neighbors, et. al.

    If John Wall is athletic enough to throw full court alley oops to himself then he is also athletic enough to lock down every PG in the L, yet he doesn’t. GP can show him how to post up or some defensive maneuvers but he can’t loan Wall a Y-chromosome.

    That dance Wall does, where he puts his hands on his hips and starts twerkin and gyrating around … you think you would ever see GP doing that dance?

  • ThaWindy

    When say Gary Payton… I think of….Jason Williams

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  • RKJ92

    Ya Jason Williams was pretty fun to watch back then :)

  • The Fury

    Also, in the offensive side, GP I think was one of the greatest players in the post (and he’s a point guard!). He had more skill in the post than let’s say…Dwight Howard.

  • The Fury

    Lol, he won’t do it, but he’ll LET you HEAR about it. That’s my main man GP!!

  • RKJ92

    Reminds me very much of Wade in the post they are the same size, same go to moves it’s great to see more guards use their size post :)

  • ActionBronson

    This is the best post I’ve ever seen on this website. Brilliant.

  • sheila752

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