Wednesday, November 6th, 2013 at 9:00 am  |  62 responses

Post Up: Uh Oh

The Knicks had a rough night… at home against the Bobcats.

by Leo Sepkowitz | @LeoSepkowitz

Tuesday night saw the Knicks fall to the Al Jefferson-less Bobcats, the Rockets’ Big Two really click and lots, lots more.

Bobcats 102, Knicks 97

Real trouble for the Knicks. They went down 11-4 to start the game, and never seemed to find a groove. Lots of bad stuff to cover.

Carmelo Anthony needed 28 shots to score his 32 points, Amar’e Stoudemire was brutally bad in 11 minutes and Andrea Bargnani posted a pathetic 6 points and 2 boards in 23 minutes despite starting the game. New York got outrebounded 51-33 by a team that started Bismack Biyombo and Josh McRoberts down low. That had a lot to do with the fact that New York fired off 11 more shots than Charlotte did… which had a lot to do with the fact that Charlotte got to the line a ridiculous 42 times. The Knicks had more turnovers (14) than assists (12). The list goes on and on and on, but the box score doesn’t show the worst of it for New York.

Late in the first quarter, Tyson Chandler collided with Kemba Walker and left the game with a knee injury. He immediately went for X-rays, but they were deemed “inconclusive,” so TC will likely be diagnosed on Wednesday. An extended absence will force Bargnani, STAT, Kenyon Martin and maybe Cole Aldrich to somehow cover the five. Just a nightmare of a game for the Knickerbockers.

That’s not to take away from the Bobcats, though, who played a solid game behind Kemba Walker (9/20, 25 points, 6 assists). Michael Kidd-Gilchrist scored 16 points with 8 boards and a trio of rejections and Gerald Henderson added 18. Charlotte knocked down 8 treys and 34 free throws on the evening.

Heat 104, Raptors 95

No Chris Bosh, no problem last night for the repeat champs. Toronto kept things close for most of the game, but let Miami jump out to a 12-0 run to open the fourth and never recovered.

LeBron led all scorers and did lots of LeBron things. He finished with 35 points (13/20 field goals, 8/8 free throws), 8 dimes, 8 boards, a three and a steal. Dwyane Wade looked strong with 20 points on 9-of-19 shooting with 6 boards and 5 assists. It looks like they’ll limit his playing time this year—mainly on the backend of back-to-backs—but he’s still got plenty left in the tank.

Toronto got 21 from DeMar DeRozan, 18 and 9 from Jonas Valanciunas and a double-double from Rudy Gay, but just couldn’t contain the Heat late.

Nets 104, Jazz 88

The Nets dropped games against Orlando and Cleveland during the first week of the season, but came out with real intensity and smoked Utah last night in Brooklyn. They led by 14 points at half time and 22 after three.

Brook Lopez had it going early and often, and finished with 27 points (10/13), 7 boards and a pair of steals. Deron Williams scored 10 points with 8 assists in 24 minutes against his former team. He’s had a so-so start to the season after battling ankle problems over the summer, and while he did enough to help them win last night, the Nets will need vintage Deron if they want to make a serious Playoff run.

The Jazz got 22 from Gordon Hayward and 21 from Enes Kanter, but shot a horrific 37.8 percent from the floor and committed 20 turnovers versus 17 assists. These things happen when Richard Jefferson and Jamaal Tinsley start for your team.

Pacers 99, Pistons 91

Pretty wild first half in Detroit last night. The Pacers led 29-14 after the first quarter, but managed just 9 points in the second quarter, allowing Detroit to take a four-point lead into the break. Indiana blew the Pistons out in the second half, though, and remained the L’s last remaining undefeated team.

Paul George was huge with 31 points, including 4 threes, and added 10 boards, 4 assists and 4 steals. Roy Hibbert continued to dominate on the defense end, as he swatted seven shots in 34 minutes and pulled down 10 rebounds as well. CJ Watson started in place of the injured George Hill and scored 15 with 5 assists.

Brandon Jennings and Josh Smith showed what bad nights will look like for the Pistons: a combined 11/36 shooting between the lefty duo. On the bright side, Greg Monroe posted a double-double and Kyle Singler scored 13 points off the bench.

Suns 104, Pelicans 98

Is it possible the 3-1 Suns are better than we thought? Fine… at least a little better? Fine… at least a little tougher?

Phoenix went up four with just under five minutes to play last night—a classic game for a young rebuilding team on the road to nearly win before letting it slip. But in fact they hung on fairly easily, thwarting NOLA’s lame comeback attempt.

Eric Bledsoe was unreal for the Suns, hitting 10 of his 12 field goals and all 4 free throw attempts. He handed out 5 assists, grabbed 4 rebounds and picked up three steals. He’s averaging about 23 points, 8 dimes and 6 boards on the season, delivering on the potential we’ve all seen him flash over the last few years. Gerald Green scored 18 points despite not making any free throws or two-pointers—he was 6/10 from beyond the arc. The Morris twins combined for 33 points off the bench.

Eric Gordon was solid against the team he nearly signed with (ahem, did sign with) a little over a year ago. He scored 20 points to go along with 5 assists and 3 steals, and I think we’re all just hoping he can stay on the floor for a while. Stat lines like this are routine for a healthy EG. Anthony Davis continued his major start to the season with 17 points, 11 boards and 5 rejections. The dude’s a machine.

Mavericks 123, Lakers 104

The Lakers are really bad at defense. At one point last night, they appeared to try a 3-1-1 zone, which NBATV’s C-Web said he’d never seen before. The Mavs did just about whatever they wanted offensively, and in all seven guys scored in double-figures. Dallas shot 52 percent from the field, including 13/27 from deep. Perhaps the clearest sign of LA’s defensive woes was Monta Ellis shooting 11/14 from the floor.

This was a blowout from start to finish, and the only guy who played well for the Lakers was Nick Young, if you call dribbling way too much, launching 12 tough shots and somehow hitting 8 of them playing well. The Lakers are a funky bunch that might play some interesting games at the Staples Center (I, for one, buy into the old adage about role players only performing well at home), but they’re among the handful of teams in the League with a real shot at Wiggins. Until this guy comes back, anyway.

Spurs 102, Nuggets 94

The Nuggets led 80-78 early in the fourth, but the Spurs dominated the final nine minutes of Tuesday night’s game in Denver. Tony Parker led the charge for San Antonio with 24 and 6, while Tim Duncan added 17 and 8 and Kawhi Leonard chipped in 14. The Spurs struggled from downtown (4/16), but made 18/20 free throws and scored 54 points in the paint.

Denver got 20 points and 8 assists from Ty Lawson, but not enough from the supporting cast. With Wilson Chandler and Danilo Gallinari out, the team is relying way too heavily on the likes of Jordan Hamilton and Randy Foye. They’ve got a good shot at turning it around, but the 0-3 Nuggets haven’t yet scored 100 points in a game. That’s a serious letdown from the team that scored the most points in the NBA last season.

Rockets 116, Blazers 101

The Rockets appeared dangerously flawed during Monday’s loss at the Clippers, but bounced back nicely on Tuesday. Portland’s a tough place to get a W, but Houston lead by about ten for the entire fourth quarter.

James Harden dropped 33 after a letdown game against Lob City. He knocked down 9 free throws and snagged 7 boards (he also turned the ball over 8 times). Dwight Howard was big, too, scoring 29 points on 10/13 shooting with 13 boards (and 6 turnovers of his own). It doesn’t get much better for the Rockets duo.

Not to nit-pick, but for the second straight night, Omer Asik saw between 20-25 minutes while Omri Casspi and Francisco Garcia combined for about 50 minutes. All three were inefficient, and I think the Rockets are going to really struggle to fill that fifth spot in the lineup. They need to make a move to solidify the rotation—mark me down as a doubter of the Howard/Asik combination, and definitely mark me down as a doubter that any team playing both Casspi and Garcia more than 20 minutes nightly can be a title threat.

The Blazers fell to .500 despite 22 from Damian Lillard, 21 from LaMarcus Aldridge and 19 from Wesley Matthews. They got next to no production outside of those three guys, as Nic Batum shot 4/10 and the bench was abysmal. The Blazers are still figuring out how some new pieces fit together (and waiting for CJ McCollum to get healthy), and I like their chances long-term.

Hawks 105, Kings 100

The Hawks stuck to their game plan last night and it got them a win in Sacto. The offense ran through Al Horford and Paul Millsap, who combined to shoot 20/34 with 52 points. Jeff Teague handed out 10 assists and knocked down a couple of treys, helping the Hawks hold off a late Kings push.

Isaiah Thomas went for 26 for the Kings, and he’s been much better than Greivis Vasquez so far this season. Greivis started, but Isaiah saw a handful more minutes. Rookie Ben McLemore dropped 15 following a 19-point showing in the Kings’ last game. As always, Sacramento has some seriously talented guys, but they need to figure out how to put the components together.

Bonus: Vintage Show Of The Day

This season, I’ll be posting a semi-random highlight video of a former baller at the bottom of my Post Ups. I did it at the end of last season with Shawn Kemp’s top oops for more-or-less no reason, and it seemed to go over well. This is the first installment for the ’13-14 season, and we’re kicking it off with The Answer in honor of his recent retirement. Sit back and enjoy this unbelievable compilation of every clutch shot AI hit in the L.

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  • Max

    Damn Montaa, he had 30 and 9 with only 1 turnover!!!

  • underdog

    I can’t decide what’s more impressive his FG%, or that single turnover.

  • http://signup.divinerenergy.com/ Anthony Dixon

    1. Are the Knicks that bad or are the Bobcats better?

    2. Jason Kidds philosophy has made the Nets look really good. The ball movement makes them unguardable and if they can stay consistent, the heat will have a serious problem.

  • Herm

    I couldn’t imagine such headlines early in season. Some bad teams off to good and surprising starts. (Phoenix Philly) the good teams are now horrible (NYK Brooklyn).
    It’s been exciting to see so far.

  • Max

    Hahaha me neither.

  • underdog

    Short recap of the video at the end: “Iverson… YESSS!!”

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    The Knicks are that bad.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    The Laker defense last night was just God awful. I counted so many late rotations and close outs it was crazy. It’s going to be an up and down season at least until Bean comes back. As far as the Rockets go, they could fill that 5th starter with Smith. He’s a big body who rebounds but doesn’t take up as much space as Asik and you can let Howard play Center. Speaking of Howard I have to give it up to him he was active around the rim on both ends of the court last night.

  • i_ball

    Roy Hibbert has a block party every night.
    He needs to get better offense though. Taking 7 shots on on 46% FGs is just not good enough

  • jessedogg

    1. I second that Knicks are THAT bad.
    2. LeBron.

  • Caboose

    I know it’s early, but let’s recap a few of the points I (and many others) argued most vehemently for in the off-season and Top 50…
    1. Mike Conley is superior to Ty Lawson
    –Results: Conley has a higher PER, better Defensive Rating, his team has a win, is shooting 7% higher from the field, and more win shares/48

    2. Chris Paul deserved #3 at the lowest on the Top 50
    –Results: 27 ppg, 13 apg, PER of 37.5(!!!!), ORTG of 145(!!!!!!!!!!). Nuff said.

    3. The Bulls and Derrick Rose wouldn’t pick up right where they left off
    –Results: Bulls are 1-2 and Rose is averaging 14 and 4 with 6 to’s and 29% shooting (NOTE: I expect this to improve, just not as much as most people think)

    4. Stephen Curry would compete for All-NBA 1st Team
    –Results: 22 and 10 with almost 5 threes a game

    5. Kyrie was WAY overrated
    –Results: More shots than points and a 1.5:1 assist:to ratio (improved D though)

    6. Dirk wouldn’t return to his form from 2 or 3 years ago
    –Results: Kind of a mixed bag. 20 ppg on only 14 shots, but only 5 rpg. And that defense…

    7. Wizards would step forward with Wall at the helm
    –Results: Oops.

    8. Pau would be good, not great. Not as good as when he first came to LA.
    –Results: 15-10 on 41% shooting, almost 0 win shares/48

    9. Westbrook would be less affected by injury than Kobe
    –Results: One of them is on the court, one isn’t

    So I think I did pretty good. And yes, I know it’s only like 5 games into the season, BUT, let me have my brief moment where I look smart. I don’t get it that often.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    win shares are 100% irrelevant right now. for instance, the Lakers are 2-3, they have 2 entire win shares to split among their whole team. Based on box score stats, that is like guessing the Bee population in the world based on 2 bees.

  • spit hot fiyah

    josh smith watch: 1-6

    he did take 8 free throws so that’s good

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Yea I really don’t see his attempts going down this season especially with him playing the SF. It’s mind boggling how he’s so oblivious to the fact that he’s AWFUL from downtown and that his game is at his strongest when he’s attacking the basket.

  • LakeShow

    Context, what a beautiful thing.

  • LakeShow

    You should wait like 2-3 more weeks before jumping to anything haha.

    Ty Lawson has technically been every bit as good as Conley. Coming from a Ty hater. They just have very different teams.

    Rose just needs to be given a break by you. I know his minions are making you go extra hard on him, but he shouldn’t be judged for a couple more weeks.

    Kyrie is going to turn it on.

    Dirk has been bad at rebounding and defending. Both will improve.

    Pau is leading the L in defensive rebounding %. He’s at 20-13-4-1 over 36 mins. He has had some health issues he has been dealing with so D’Antoni has only been playing him 27mpg.

    Westbrook: you win.

    Just give things a little more time. There is 78 more games left in the season.

  • Caboose

    Fair. Well said.

  • Matisse

    It’s the beginning of the season. Teams are either overachieving or underachieving. Teams habits and identity haven’t been permanent yet. Give it some time before making wild assumptions.

  • LakeShow

    It should always be noted when a player has a triple double or near triple double.

    Tim Duncan had 8 assists and 4 blocks to go with his 17 and 8.

  • LakeShow

    If he just hits 1 more of those 6 three pointers for 2 for 6… you can’t really be upset. They need an outside threat and at 33% it’s respectable enough.

    BUT… I see him hitting 1 of 6 over 2 of 6 most nights…

    He’s not set up for success with this team at all.

    Honestly i’d trade Greg Monroe or Andre Drummond. Probably Monroe.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Josh Smith has attempted 28 threes
    Josh Smith has a total of 27 rebounds

  • Stepfan Raiford

    Number 7 really hurts me. smh

  • spit hot fiyah

    he might actually be aware of but just prefers chilling on the outside after he got paid guaranteed money for four years. a lot of players actually like to do a lot of things that they are not very good at, probably a lot of us included when we play at our respective levels. the more mind boggling thing to me is how the coaches don’t stop him from doing it. i’d rather have kcp, singer, datome, billups, jerebko shooting from the outside. i mean the first thing must have came to mind when they signed him must have been: how are we going to play smith, drummond and monroe at the same time. they should have come to some sort of conclusion after a few months of thinking that doesn’t include smith shooting 6 of them per game.

  • spit hot fiyah

    IF, well he didn’t. and going 2 for 6 one game doesn’t justify taking more on 6 per game on average when your career percentage is 28%. he is well below average from there and well above average around the basket. which mean that the majority of his shots should probably come from around the basket.

    mo cheeks seat should be heating up if it isn’t already. they are good enough all around to keep winning a lot of games though so cheeks should be cool. but this team is playing way under it’s potential

    i highly doubt that they are trading drummond, his upside is crazy and he is already showing improvement. monroe would be the candidate since he didn’t get offered an extension. again, if they are respectable enough through the season they might just keep the team together and see how much monroe gets on the market and them match if they feel it is worth it.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Considering who’s coaching the Pistons it’s not really a shock that the coaching staff hasn’t addressed (at least that we know of) this issue.

  • spit hot fiyah

    agreed, i didn’t/don’t think very highly of them as nba coaches. BUT considering the fact the we, some nba nerds on a website see this thing as clearly as we see the sun on a cloudless day, they should have some clue about it right?

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    You would think but we must keep in mind that just because you’re in a particular position doesn’t mean you know what you’re doing.

  • spit hot fiyah

    that is very true

  • Enigmatic

    When did LakeShow become all reasonable and stuff? Ha, look at you!

  • LakeShow

    Reason is my flavor of the month.

  • i_ball

    I want to see the the Pistons play the Spurs. He will probably attempt over 15 3s in that game. Pop will just dare him to shoot.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Tuesday Night observations

    1.Monta Ellis is have the best start to a season in his career

    2.Indiana is the best team in the east

    3.The Suns are for real Eric Bledsoe is shining bright in Phoenix a player that has been cast in other players shadows he was in John Wall at the plantation at Kentucky then in Chris Paul shadow in Los Angeles now it’s time for his breakthrough season and it’s happening another James Harden situation Bledsoe and Green were on fire last night Phoenix should be undefeated if it wasn’t for Westbrook egotistical return

  • LakeShow

    Monta Ellis actually has a couple other seasons where he started off better.

    In 2010-2011 he averaged 30-6-4-2 on 55% FG’s and 40% 3 pointers over the first 4 games.

    Then again in 2011-2012 he registered digits of 24-8-3-1 over the first 5-7 games.

    Indiana is my favorite team in the L this year, but no, the haven’t certified 4 games into the season that that are the best team in the East.

    Define “for real” for the Suns? “For real” meaning they aren’t imaginary?
    Cause that team is still going to be in the bottom 7 lowest seeded teams in the L.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Mine is Cinnamon. But she hasn’t called me in a while…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    lol, the Bobcats started 6-4 last year….i wonder how “for real” they were..

  • Nathan Shane Long

    This is not a Fluke start for Phoenix Eric Bledsoe is the Catalyst for this young team they are no joke like the Lakers are now

  • LakeShow

    What do you mean it’s not a fluke start? They are 3-1. Of course it’s a fluke. You think they are going to be 48-16 in a few months?
    Because that’s what they are slated to win as of right now’s winning %.

    Let’s get some #’s from you.
    Give or take 5 games how many will PHX win this year?

  • LakeShow

    The Sixers, T-Wolves, and the Suns are the best teams this year, doncha know??

  • LakeShow

    Probably cause you’re too busy spanking NYK cheerleader butts.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the T-Wolves are legitimately good tho. don’t be out slandering yourself there.
    Boston and Utah are going to give Phoenix and Philadelphia a run for their money this year, watch. All of them competing to see who can get as close to 20 wins as possible without winning more than any of the others.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Only the 76ers have had a fluke start not Phoenix or Minnesota

  • LakeShow

    I really hope the Wolves fulfill their talent level and grab that 5th spot in the West.

  • LakeShow

    Hello? How many games do you think PHX will win?

  • Nathan Shane Long

    they will finished 3rd in the Pacific division

  • Sergio

    What a great video. AI was a giant in the clutch.

  • LakeShow

    My money is on them being last in the Pacific.

    We will see who is right as the season wears on here.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Yea it’s hard keeping tabs on all these chicks man

  • Nathan Shane Long

    they are better than the Kings and Lakers do you have brain that is FUNCTIONABLE or are you just full blown retarded

  • Caboose

    Give us a win total, genius. Hell, you guess within 7 games +/- I’ll be impressed. I’ve got their total at about 24-29. If you’ve got them 3rd, that means you’ve got them around or above .500?

  • Caboose

    I really wanna see Chase come back strong and be a sparkplug 6th man. Wolves could make a lot of noise if Love keeps working on the defensive end.

  • Caboose

    Shout out to Vinsanity.

  • Caboose

    How would you define a “fluke” start vs a “for real” start? What measure in your brain are you using to come to that conclusion?

  • Caboose

    Kings could nab that last spot if DMC keeps doing his best Gary Busey impersonations.

  • Caboose

    Imagine Parsons, Asik, and a 2nd rounder for Smith and Singler.

    Rockets: Lin, Harden, Garcia, Smith, Dwight
    Pistons: Jennings, Stuckey, Parsons, Monroe, Drummond

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Phoenix will be the 8th seed in the west

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  • Caboose

    Haha aw look at the little 10 year old. So cute aren’t you! Do mommy and daddy know you’re up way past your bedtime?

  • Nathan Shane Long

    You just too annoying i’m done with you cunt get a F’N LIFE TURN OFF YOUR CHEAP ASS WAL-MART LAPTOP COMPUTER AND BE GONE TROLL

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    I would love that so much

  • LakeShow

    Asik is like “Fu*k you bro.”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    hahaahaha this is hilarious.