Sunday, October 10th, 2010 at 8:00 am  |  125 responses

Top 50: Tim Duncan, no. 14

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Dennis Tarwood / @tuffyr

Think about the last time you drove to work. What did you notice?

Yes yes; there was a convenience store on the left 15 minutes into the drive. The red light at 5th Ave. caught you like it always does. You parked in the same spot you usually take.

But that’s what you expected to happen. What did you actually nTim Duncanotice?

You were thinking about your 11 a.m. conference call or that you forgot your packed lunch at home. Perhaps, if you’re of a certain age and disposition, you squinted your eyes and rubbed your temple to try to shake the hangover.

You didn’t notice anything during the drive, though. You anticipated the parts of the drive and moved on when they occurred. You might have seen them, but you didn’t notice them.

And so it is with Tim Duncan. Last season, you saw Tony Parker collapse under the long-term fatigue of a professional playing career, at least for one year. You saw Richard Jefferson completely fail at being Richard Jefferson and it stuck in your craw. You saw George Hill and Garrett Temple and then saw them for what they actually were.

They were new. Or, if they weren’t new, they weren’t acting the same. You made the green light on 5th. You noticed. Not so for Timmy.

There he is, setting up on the right block after two shoves to his defender with that elongated right arm extended to the sky, parrying a hapless defender with the left elbow. There he is, one dribble and then two. Step over, shoot, score. Shuffle downcourt.

There he is on the left block, executing the same move in a mirror. Step over, shoot, score. Shuffle downcourt.

Now he’s back on defense, undermining his opponent’s center of gravity with his knees and that massive base as counterweight. Never having the skill to leap out of the gym, he doesn’t leave the ground for the first nor the second pump fake. Tim Duncan waits.

Help doesn’t come. Help doesn’t have to come. The Merlin Wall has been erected. None shall pass, except perhaps his opponent. Force them to settle for an outside shot. Shuffle downcourt.

The only change you might have noticed in the last few years is on the help defense. Tony Parker has undoubtedly noticed. His way to work has dramatically altered on the defensive end without Duncan to bail him out. Fewer blocks lead to more drives. Not a million: just more. It might even be unnoticeable if you haven’t looked up recently.

Otherwise, Tim Duncan is unchanged. He still has those sharp elbows. He still holds the same disdain for the media. (Even in an otherwise-empty locker room, claustrophobia sets in when approaching him.) He still harbors the same smart and silly sense of humor when surrounded by his inner circle.

And so we take him for granted. General managers drop him down their ranking. SLAMonline drops him down their ranking. He grows older. Slower. (Though, since he didn’t start out blazingly fast, he didn’t have to find an old man’s game at 29; it was already present and accounted for.)

This season, tap the brakes at least once and notice Tim Duncan. There will be fewer opportunities to do so, assuming Tiago Splitter pans out as Spanish gold and DeJuan Blair continues to mock human physiology. Gregg Popovich will follow through on his plan to play Duncan less nightly and fewer nights overall, nursing him to June for the last two seasons of his contract.

After the 2012 season ends, Tim Duncan will be 36 years old with four or more rings to his credit and possibly zero interest in chasing any other career totals. He says he’ll “play until the wheels fall off“, but who knows when that will happen?

Perhaps he’ll take the opportunity to retire and open a swimming pool just outside San Antonio. Or maybe he’ll tour with the Renaissance faire, winning jousts daily because no one can knock him off his massive base.

And you? You’ll be driving to work and notice briefly that the convenience store went under over the weekend. You went in that store once when you forgot donuts for a meeting. It was a good store, you’ll think.

And then you’ll drive on and you won’t notice again.

SLAMonline TOP 50 PLAYERS OVERALL RANK POSITION RANK
Player Team Position 2010 2009 2010 2009
Ray Allen Celtics SG 50 36 10 9
Gilbert Arenas Wizards SG 49 34 9 8
Lamar Odom Lakers PF 48 33 14 10
John Wall Wizards PG 47 NR 13 NR
OJ Mayo Grizzlies SG 46 46 8 12
Al Horford Hawks C 45 NR 6 NR
Jason Kidd Mavs PG 44 45 12 10
Joakim Noah Bulls C 43 NR 5 NR
LaMarcus Aldridge Blazers PF 42 39 13 12
David West Hornets PF 41 31 12 8
Monta Ellis Warriors SG 40 NR 7 NR
Andrew Bogut Bucks C 39 NR 4 NR
Yao Ming Rockets C 38 NR 3 NR
Brandon Jennings Bucks PG 37 NR 11 NR
Zach Randolph Grizzlies PF 36 NR 11 NR
Stephen Curry Warriors PG 35 NR 10 NR
David Lee Warriors PF 34 NR 10 NR
Brook Lopez Nets C 33 NR 2 NR
Gerald Wallace Bobcats SF 32 NR 7 NR
Manu Ginobili Spurs SG 31 29 6 7
Tony Parker Spurs PG 30 15 9 3
Kevin Garnett Celtics PF 29 13 9 3
Rudy Gay Grizzlies SF 28 44 6 9
Josh Smith Hawks PF 27 40 8 13
Andre Iguodala 76ers SG 26 26 5 6
Al Jefferson Jazz PF 25 23 7 7
Russell Westbrook Thunder PG 24 NR 8 NR
Chauncey Billups Nuggets PG 23 19 7 5
Tyreke Evans Kings PG 22 NR 6 NR
Danny Granger Pacers SF 21 21 5 5
Carlos Boozer Bulls PF 20 32 6 9
Paul Pierce Celtics SF 19 17 4 4
Joe Johnson Hawks SG 18 20 4 4
Rajon Rondo Celtics PG 17 27 5 8
Amar’e Stoudemire Knicks PF 16 16 5 6
Steve Nash Suns PG 15 22 4 6
Tim Duncan Spurs PF 14 6 4 1

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’10-11 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jeremy Bauman, Maurice Bobb, Erildas Budraitis, Sean Ceglinsky, Ben Collins, Bryan Crawford, Sandy Dover, Adam Figman, Manny Maduakolam, Eddie Maisonet, Ryne Nelson, Doobie Okon, Ben Osborne, Charles Peach, Branden Peters, Quinn Peterson, David Schnur, Todd Spehr, Kyle Stack, Adam Sweeney, Dennis Tarwood, Tracy Weissenberg, Lang Whitaker, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • Avery

    maybe not no.1 nowadays, but among all the players in this ranking, surely the best ever…

  • KB8toSG8

    A legend. Always a joy watching him. His last season was just as productive as his others and hopefully it continues that way. Go Tim!

  • Overtime

    He’s still top ten to me. Best PF of all time, just a legend, a class act.
    What does annoy me though, is just how much his legacy would be improved if Derek Fisher hadnt hit that 0.4 shot.
    The shot that Duncan hit just before was off the charts, wayyyy off the charts. If that had been the game winner, it would add so much more to the legacy. And its totally possible to think the Spurs would have gone past the Lakers and maybe even taken Detroit

  • http://123@yahoo.cn effie

    Duncan is far more batter than Bosh.

  • Ronald

    Hmmmmm…You guys have D-Rose over Tim Duncan? Seriously?

  • reflex

    Yeh Ronald so far they have Rose over Nash, Duncan & Rondo. Incredible.

  • JTaylor21

    Best PF of all-time NAH, it’s a four man race between KG/TD/CB34/Malone. Still duncan is still one of the best post players in the league today and continues to perform at a higher offensive level than DHow.

  • Brandon

    I am new to this site, but I have had enough of the Derrick Rose hating on this forum. I will start by saying I am from chicago, but I still have enough sense and objectivity on this particular subject. I understand some of your concerns regarding Derrick Rose, but I also know the criteria for these rankings are for the upcoming season. So, when the comments section saying how he will be better than Nash or Rondo. I will explain how. First, he has much more talent around him i.e Carlos Boozer, Kyle Korver, and Ronnie Brewer etc. He can legitimately average 24pts, 4-5reb, and 8 assists based on talent around him alone. If you fully take that in consideration and everything in Chicago is based around his individual talents, you can surely see why the slam writers have him ranked this high. These rankings are not based on career stats or I would clearly agree with you all. I also take constructive criticism very well so if you disagree I understand as well. But, based off his experience in the playoffs that he achieved in the Cleveland series it’s not hard to imagine to see him explode in his 3rd year in the NBA.

  • Furious

    hahahahaha JTaylor bosh has no business being in that conversation.

  • Furious

    oh crap now i look like an idiot. ignore that comment. my bad.

  • Furious

    oh bugger now i look like an idiot. ignore that last comment. my bad.

  • Furious

    sorry posted twice cos i didnt come up. man im not having a good day

  • JD

    I’m not detracting from Derrick Rose’s game at all i’ve never read anyone on this site hating him, but i definetly agree that Duncan is probably better than at this point maybe not at this time next year,however. I would probably say the same about Chris Bosh

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstySYD Hursty

    Who’s most important to their team and its success? Rondo, Nash, Timmy, Bosh or Rose?
    When it comes down to these spots I feel like it becomes a bigger part of criteria than purely statistics. Take each of those players off their respective squads and… Bosh? Er, no.
    The difference between Rose and Rondo is not a huge leap, like having a rating of 92 vs 94, but it’s there. Duncan is crucial to the Spurs because they have no other interior scoring/defense/anything. And cos he’s, ya know, Tim Duncan. Nash was more valuable last year, coming into the season. Goran was awful as a rookie. Dragic will take a whole bunch of pressure off him during the season.
    Oh, and ‘age shall not weary them’.
    I’d have it like this – From least to most – Bosh, Nash, Rose, Rondo, Timmy.

  • KB8toSG8

    @Furious

    I hope he means Charles Barkely for his sake. :|

    @JTaylor21

    I think Duncan has done enough to be the best PF ever. Just like Kobe was criticized for not winning enough when compared with Jordan, the same should apply to both Malone and Duncan. So off they go. KG…….nope. He is a great defensive anchor but Duncan was and still is more consistent and more durable and more dependable. Also the fact that he has a few Finals MVPs as well ( Honestly though, Pierce’s finals MVP was the most undeserving I’ve ever seen, on par with Nash’s 2nd MVP. That should’ve been Garnett’s.) Duncan has a combination of stats and hardware that the others’ can’t compare to. And another thing, do you ever not take a shot at someone else who is being praised other than LeBron? Coz all I’ve seen is whining that LeBron this, LeBron that on LeBron-Kobe and rest of the guys’ articles and X isn’t better than Y,Z,A,B etc. on articles that pertain to player X……..

  • KB8toSG8

    @JD

    Nobody hates Rose around here. They only start making fun of him when others bring him into the best PG discussion which is laughable. And Bosh will NEVER be as good as Duncan. NEVER. Hell, he doesn’t even have a good post game!! Lopez seems to be the kind of guy who can follow Duncan’s footsteps. Has strong fundamentals and isn’t too flashy as well.

  • Fat Lever

    I thought this was the best write up on a player to this point. Excellent job Dennis.

  • Ken

    Very nicely written. Maybe the best piece so far in the top 50.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Duncan right now honestly is still ahead of Chris Bosh. What makes Bosh better now? I would probably only take Pau over Duncan right now, and perhaps Luis Scola on account of him playing so well for the last year or two.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Whoa. Waitaminute. 3 spots left at the PF rankings. That’s Dirk, Bosh and Gasol, right? So does that mean Luis Scola isn’t even on this list?? Tough crowd at the PF positions here, but Scola was the best player outside of KD at the recent championships, right? Kevin Love is also absent, but he’ll probably be on this list for the next decade so that’s cool.

  • Overtime

    @Jtaylor, there can be a very strong argument made for Malone and Barkley, I just personally take Duncan.

    @Joel, I’d never take Scola over Duncan, but he should definitely be on this list

  • Anthony

    JTaylor, you really think CB or KG are in the same league as Duncan ? What are you smoking daily seriously ? Even Jerry Sloan is saying Duncan is the best PF of all time.

  • Karl

    Well I’ve always thought that KG was definitely in Duncan’s league. He just never had the supporting cast or coaching that TD had.

  • ripslam

    Hmmmm…I don’t know if he should still be this high, definitely top 20 but no. 14, I dunno. Also, the people that think Scola should be on this list because he looked good on a freaking FIBA team are making me laugh.

  • add

    no offense to tim but i think rondo might be a little better

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=BEZ&clubcode=PAN&seasoncode=e2010 ANTONIS FOTSIS

    Hey, where is ANNA….??? In Turkey to play for a team that is not even in the Euroleague…???!!!!! Unbeliavable…..

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=BEZ&clubcode=PAN&seasoncode=e2010 ANTONIS FOTSIS

    So, that means that SCOLA is making the top-13….after the way he destroyed again the competition in the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP this summer it is reasonable to be rated that high. He is definitely top-5 big man in the world at the moment.

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=BEZ&clubcode=PAN&seasoncode=e2010 ANTONIS FOTSIS

    So, that means that SCOLA is making the top-13….after the way he destroyed again the competition in the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP this summer it is reasonable to be rated that high. He is definitely top-5 big man in the world at the moment…

  • http://www.springbored.net letsmotor

    damn, bosh ahead of duncan just doesn’t make sense, and i like bosh.

  • Overtime

    and then Antonis came along and destroyed the conversation

    Cosign Letsmotor

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=BEZ&clubcode=PAN&seasoncode=e2010 ANTONIS FOTSIS

    At this moment (and last year also): BOSH>DUNCAN>HOWARD.

  • Blackphantom

    Hell no TD is not the greatest PF of all-time, Top 5 yes, Greatest, no

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=BEZ&clubcode=PAN&seasoncode=e2010 ANTONIS FOTSIS

    We are getting close to the moment where the best big man in the world for the last 3 years is going to ranked under a guy that 1)doesn’t have even half his comlpete bball game/understanding 2) [this is the funniest], a guy that he has COMPLETELY DESTROYED wherever he has faced him. Ladies and gents we present you “WHERE PAU IS RANKED UNDER ‘SUPER GUFFY’ HOWARD HAPPENS” !!!! This is the moments that we are living for here, unintentional comedy at its finest!!!!

  • Tony

    I hope D-Will breaks top ten

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    Timmy´s a legend, good spot for him, WOW, Rose´s even higher then I though he´d be by SLAM´s standards,this is getting out of control

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Okay WHERE THE F*CK IS DERRICK ROSE?!?!

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    With all due respect.

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=BEZ&clubcode=PAN&seasoncode=e2010 ANTONIS FOTSIS

    @Teddy…….:D.ROSE is expected to be really “PRODUCTIVE” this year!!!(ha,ha,ha, “where bball players became factory workers judged by the number of units they produce and the salaries they make!!!!!!” )

  • http://www.springbored.net letsmotor

    consign trailblazing and teddy a thousand times over.

  • Elvis Freshly

    Slam… Tim is NOT ahead of Amare, point blank.

  • whoooo!

    i can accept Duncan’s slowing down as the reason he’s ranked this low, especially if his minutes are limited. remember, his MVP years were 8 years ago. i don’t think Bosh is better this year though. Gasol right now is the best pf in the game.

  • whoooo!

    i can accept Duncan’s slowing down as the reason he’s ranked this low, especially if his minutes are limited. remember, his MVP years were 8 years ago. i don’t think Bosh is better this year though. Gasol right now is the best pf in the game.

  • whoooo!

    that said, what are y’all smoking to say he’s “top 5 pf all time.” 13 years in the league, and this is what he’s done: 13 all-nba selections (9 first-team), 13 all-defensive selections (8 first team), 13 seasons of 50+ wins, back-to-back MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs, and 4 rings. greatest pf of all time, it’s not even a question.

  • http://shinefluidpt2@aol.com CHICAGO SAID IT YUP

    bring on the D.ROSE haters!! we luv it. for somebody who barely ever says 2 words he sure has alot of fans/haters

  • PDC

    Rose over Nash and Duncan is a crime in my country.

    @Spain

  • PDC

    And Bosh over Tim Duncan another crime.

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=BEZ&clubcode=PAN&seasoncode=e2010 ANTONIS FOTSIS

    howard>gasol is what in your country…???

  • ai come back

    yo brandon im from chi town too and cmon man tim duncan is better than derrick rose right now rajon rondo is better than derrick rose right now steve nash is better than derrick rose right now, notice how i said right now? nash can literally score whenever he want take more to his body(all tough team on nba.com/derrick rose has not taken an elbow in the eye by tim duncan) nash can do more with less, tim duncan is arguably the greatest pf of all time like ppl were sayin whos more crucial to their teams sucess? d rose makes a dif. but take out nash take out duncan what happens?

  • http://www.nba.com jessdogg

    Saying that Tim Duncan is not the greatest power forward of all time would have to be words of a borderline retard. Too me its almost like when people try and argue that someone, anyone, is better then Michael Jordan. Karl Malone was unlucky he played in the Michael Jordan era but even with 2 or 3 rings its not even close.

  • gilford

    So Derrick “The second coming of Steve Francis” Rose is higher than Nash and Duncan?

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