Sources: Gil Had Hundreds of Guns

i’m from europe and the only thing i can say about the way America thinks about the weapons aspect of law/society: can i smoke some of that ??

nastynas: We think the same way about your drug laws.
This European way of thinking is relatively insane. We should just be like Mexico and Russia and have as many gun laws as we can, those places are utopias… oh wait, they have four times the murder rate than the US does. Guess you guys better shut the f*ck up.

But every western country (means not part of the “poor world”) with stricter gun laws has a way lower murder rate than the US. Of course its easy to compare it to africa and countries like that, but that makes NO sense, except for your argumentation!

Rikson: That has nothing to do with gun laws. Britain and Scandanavia and several other European countries have as lax gun laws as the United States and they have as low or lower murder rates as any other European country.
Countries with STRICTER gun laws like Mexico and Russia double to quadrouple our murder rate.
Do you see the point I’m trying to make now?

One thing is for sure; Gilbert owned more guns than he ever owned braincells.

I mean, christ, some Mexican drug cartels are armed better than many third world countries, and the gun crimes are through the roof, yet Mexico has RIDICULOUSLY strict gun laws.
The point is, it’s not black and white. Banning guns isn’t a catch all for reducing crime, and having guns wont necessarily make you safer. Cases have to be judged on a per instance basis, and that’s why the majority of America has different gun laws depending on the area. It’s just hypocritical for Europeans to talk about what a utopia they have when many of their neighbors allow guns and remain crime free and their giant neighbor (russia) has massive homicide rates with strict gun control.
The US certainly isn’t a perfect nation and I haven’t been happy with my government for over a decade… but please, get off your high horse about the gun crap. You haven’t done any research on the subject what-so-ever.

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I’m sorry to hear that, but that’s how I feel. I don’t like the idea that weapons are concentrated in the hands of a few. I think it opens the door for abuses by those few. Guns are just a way weapon. Humankind has always needed and used weapons. Those with weapons have always lorded over those without them. It seems like common sense to arm yourself. If not, you’re depending on the laws of the land to protect you at all times, and I don’t have that much confidence in the law. I’d rather take steps myself.

Jukai, drugs laws in Europ might be a little more chilled out over here, but there’s only one county where you can buy drugs legal (and only softdrugs ),and that’s the Netherlands and and it works with a ‘we’ll pretend like we’re not seeing it’ governmental policy, i mean you got a state with medical marihuana too, the punishments might be more strict in America, but studies have showed America is the most drugs-using country in the world (per head). but aside from that when we hear about the murder rate in cities like Baltimore (yeah i’m a fan of the wire) we just can’t do nothing but shake our heads in disbelief.
Mexico might have strict laws and at the same time a high gun/population ratio, but much is the result of poor government and let’s face it too much poverty. This isn’t a black/white discussion and too many external factors come into play when searching for a simple explanation (social class,wealth, history, tradition, social influences,crime etc) But if guns weren’t so easy to get too and so easy accesible, wouldn’t there be at least some less accidents/incidents?

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THIS IS LIFE OR DEATH

aight i agree, lot has to do with the surroundings one has to live in, i mean i could understand that if i was living in a place where owning guns is legal, and i would come in contact with people having and using them. I would feel safer with a gun too. But my point is why are these guns are so easy accesible and that discussion would digress way too much of the topic with al those external factors that come into play. But an interesting discussion anyway

“Better hope civilization never collapses, cause y’all will be effed by the folks who actually do have guns.” And thats the problem with guns! Every idiot can operate a gun! And once he does, he feels like the king of the world… while in reality he is just a scared little boy, who wants to get some kind of power, no matter how!