Sunday, November 6th, 2011 at 5:13 pm  |  24 responses

NBPA to Discuss All Options Monday on Conference Call

With the NBA’s take-it-or-leave-it offer currently sitting on the table, the Players Association’s executive committee will have a conference call Monday, during which the union will discuss its next move. No word yet on exactly what that move may be—Accepting the deal? A counter-offer? Decertification?—but we should know a little more come Tuesday. Via Spurs Nation: “Spurs forward Matt Bonner, a member of the National Basketball Players Association’s executive committee, said Sunday the union’s leadership has scheduled a conference call for Monday to discuss its next move. The NBA late Saturday night gave the union  a formal proposal for a new collective bargaining agreement that Bonner said called for ‘basically another 50-50 split’ of basketball related income, along with some changes in the luxury tax system he said represented little change from the owners’ prior positions. The union rejected the offer on the spot, whereupon Commissioner David Stern said it would remain only through the end of business on Wednesday. If not accepted by the close of business Wednesday, Stern said the offer would be withdrawn and replaced by a much worse deal, with a revenue split giving the players only 47 percnet  of BRI and a ‘flex’ salary cap the players already have characterized as an unacceptable hard cap.”

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  • Heals

    NBAPA meet “the Crossroads.” It’s going to be stressful – opinions are going to get stronger, positions further entrenched, allegiances will be challeneged and apparently the deal proposals only more lopsided. Regardless of which side you’re on at this point; it’s tough to criticize their next move. The consequences are huge either way. I know we all want next season, but the NBAPA’s next move may help establish a precendent with ramifications that last far beyond the length of this CBA…

  • LA Huey

    Time for the nuclear option…

  • http://itsahardwoodlife.blogspot.com omphalos

    Just take the deal…

  • Danny_W_UK

    I think Fisher and Hunter are too close to the negotiations to really see the whole picture. The NBA Players need to be heard, vote on this deal. Every vote towards taking it, and saving some kind of sesaon, counts. Not just the Kobes, LeBrons, and Dwights of the League, other guys have to be heard, Casspi, Hawes, Anderson 1 through 12. Vote on this deal take your millions and put on a f*cking show.

  • http://itsahardwoodlife.blogspot.com omphalos

    I think if there’s a vote on this, the deal might just go through.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Yeah the players are going to take a big L.
    And it is funny that so many people want that. Forget principle let’s just watch a game where they kill us on tickets and League Pass.
    I miss ball too. But I am bothered by how this whole deal has worked. It is a symptom of a larger problem. Workers (and yes I know this is hard to see with their salaries) are getting squeezed. And the justifications smell fishy.
    As a worker in a capitalist society you are SUPPOSED to get as much money as possible. But people seem to be jealous of this reality all while supporting wealthy owners getting more. And the explanation seems to be “That is how the world works.”

  • Patrick

    Make a counter offer with a few tweaks ..and then accept!

  • Patrick

    Also, let’s skip the damn union..let’s get some democracy from the players..direct votes from them on this proposal (and any other’s going forward).

  • Nguyen-Luan

    Allowing players to vote will indicate what they think of the deal.

  • BBaller

    @Allenp, sorry mate but Capitalism is the reason your country finds itself in the mess that it is in.It doesn’t work , neither does the other end of the spectrum.Both sides are being greedy and forgetting who the main party involved in this is…WE, US .. the fans.

  • http://sheridanhoops.com/2011/11/06/tweet-of-the-day-nazr-mohammed/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    @NAZRMOHMMED IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO HEAR IT (OR JUST TAKE THE BLUE PILL THE NBA PR MACHINE IS TRYING TO GET YOU TO SWALLOW, LOL): I get it now…it’s time 2 punish the teams with money, who prospered under last CBA, or has a following outside of their state. #BigMarkets. A Luxury Tax and teams that pay it can’t bid on the services of free agents…Sounds like a hard cap to me. #NBALockout. I’m cool with whatever is best for our union but I hope it’s understood that we’re being offered a deal where the top teams won’t be able to bid for ur services when u become a FA. Teams known for spending money hands will be tied and u will be forced to either re-sign w/ ur current team or take a lot less on the open market. But there will be no open market bcuz teams like the Lakers, Miami, NY, Boston, etc couldnt even be part of the FA process. Everyone knows that ur value is set by the available teams wanting to bid for ur services…If there aren’t any teams who can spend then u don’t have any negotiating power. So players will have to decide between the mid-level, bi-annual exception, their veterans minimum or take whatever ur current team offers. If ur cool w/ that then this is the deal for u. SMH. By the way…no sign and trades for tax paying teams too. Free agency will never be the same. #DecisionTime. I really can’t believe that all the owners are on board with this. This deal ties the hands of teams in large markets that paid luxury tax. A team that’s paying the luxury tax cant go out & compete in free agency. They wont b able 2 keep a championship team 2gether n Dallas’ case. about 22 hours ago via Twitter

  • http://www.slamonline.com biged

    Fact is the players will not win in this negotiations unless the courts rule in favor of them. And that will take for ever. At this point the only thing left to do is let the owners get what they want. This deal is suppose to give every team a fair shot at a championship, but I dont that will happen.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Basically fans are saying players should take the L so that fans can get what they want and owners can get what they want because the players should just be happy that they are in the position they are in.
    Does that sum it up?

  • http://slamonline.com biged

    @allenp, nah that isn’t how I feel. I want the players to get a fair deal, even if the whole season is missed. I just don’t SEE anyway the players will get a fair deal at this point without the court ruling in favor of them and saying that this lock out is un-just (or whatever)… The players have NO leverage what so ever. So unless they plan to miss paychecks for the rest of the year and beyond, then they should take the deal that is on the table because its the best one they are going to get. The players should take this as their “all-or-nothing”. Either go with this or wait it out for the whole season.

  • Heals

    Allen that’s what bums me out too. This is a case of the rich taking from the less rich (thanks JWhit). But since the players are richer than most fans they don’t care or see it like that…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    There is not a financial system on earth that works fairly for everyone. The idea that the owners and players are going to split this “fairly” is absurd. The players just don’t want to be totally and completely taken advantage of. Which is what is about to happen, and even more so if they hold out any longer.

  • http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7186103/why-players-cave Allenp

    Fair is all about perspective.
    What I don’t want is another NFL.

  • http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7186103/why-players-cave Allenp

    Oh, and click on my name for a good primer on the economics of this whole thing. For those of you who actually care.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    you get that e-mail I sent you AP?

  • http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7186103/why-players-cave Allenp

    “The owners aren’t holding out for parity. They are holding out because of indifference and vindictiveness. Financially, they have so much money and so many alternate sources of revenue that it doesn’t matter if their teams play or not. And since most owners’ teams aren’t going to win anyway, the motivation just isn’t there to cave. For certain owners, like Dan Gilbert, this is taken to an extreme. The man who penned the Comic Sans diatribe against LeBron James would love nothing more than to slice a year off James’ championship window in Miami.”

  • http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7186103/why-players-cave Allenp

    just checked it

  • http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7186103/why-players-cave Allenp

    Stern and the owners are going back on all system issues, and are trying to strong arm them.
    Oh well, I’m cool with no NBA if this is how the owners want to carry it.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Fa sho, I was gonna say, don’t worry about it if you didn’t cuz Slam just posted it.