Tuesday, February 2nd, 2010 at 11:18 am  |  183 responses

SLAM 136: On Sale Now!

There’s never a bad time for a Kobe cover…but this is a really good time.

by Russ Bengtson (@russbengtson)

Kobe Bryant sits before a group of journalists in L.A.—on the Forum floor, no less—and he’s talking about SLAM covers. Not this cover of this issue that you’re looking at now, seeing that we hadn’t shot it (or even set up the time to shoot it) yet, but a SLAM cover for that other guy who has had more covers than him, the one who retired but didn’t. No, the other one. “Y’all gotta do one with him in Philly now,” he says. “It’s a good look.”

What’s that? Is Kobe Bryant sounding…content? A little while later, someone Kobe Bryant, SLAM 136asks him straight-up about his competitiveness. Does it carry over off the court? His answer is exaggerated, delivered with that familiar half-smirk: “Noooooo, why would I do that? Not at all.” The laughter comes from everyone, most of all Kobe himself. It’s pushed further—someone suggests the original questioner challenge Kobe to a game of NBA 2K10. And just like that, playtime is over: “Yeah, you talk to Melo,” Kobe fires back, “ask him what happened with that game.” Well, that about covers that.

Last night Kobe passed mentor and friend Jerry West to become the Lakers’s all-time leading scorer, dropping 44 points on the Memphis Grizzlies. He’s reaching new milestones daily, at the point in his career where each accomplishment is something else for the Hall of Fame plaque. When he laces them up on February 8th to take on the San Antonio Spurs, he’ll play in his thousandth regular-season game. Sure, it might not happen on that night. He could miss a game between now and then to rest his fractured fingers and sprained right ankle. But that’s not what Kobe does. That’s not who Kobe is.

A long time ago, some idiot wrote the following words in the pages of this very magazine: “I’m not sure if anyone really understands Kobe Bryant. In fact, I’m not even sure if Kobe Bryant really understands Kobe Bryant.” We ran them twice, actually—the second time in our 10th Anniversary issue—and went so far as to dub him “The Enigma,” like he wore a question mark instead of a number eight. Yes, some things about Kobe were hard to understand. But his center, his essence, that should have been clear even then: Kobe Bryant wanted to be the best player to ever play the game of basketball. We were missing the tree for the forest. What idiot, what moron, what brainless hack would even suggest that Kobe didn’t even understand himself? Yep, that would be me.

If anything, Kobe can be too easy to read sometimes. Like Mike, he’s polished and prepared in interview settings, but also like Mike, he can’t keep that competitive fire tamped all the way down. He just can’t help himself. It’s funny too—the first time I sat down with Kobe for an extended interview, he insisted he was nothing like Michael Jordan. I believe the words he used were “totally different.” He was 21, just coming off his first championship, and it was clearly untrue even then, but the way he said it left no room for arguing.

Now, 10 years later, he seems not only willing to accept the comparison, but he’ll even be the one to bring it up. Near the end Kobe Bryant, SLAM 136of our Q&A session in New York, which took place after we did get him shot (by world-renowned photographer Martin Schoeller, no less) I ask him whether there are inherent conflicts between the career-long goal of becoming the best player ever and the year-to-year goal of winning championships. He doesn’t even hesitate:

“No, I think the trick is to win. For all of Michael’s individual brilliance, he never would have been considered arguably the greatest of all time had he not won. It’s just as simple as that. And to do that, you have to have some kind of luck, because you have to have teammates around you. I mean, he played with one of the all-time greats in Scottie Pippen. So you have to have a support system around you to help you accomplish those things. So I don’t think those lines are blurred at all. You have to win. There’s been a lot of great individual players in the past—Dominique Wilkins, Bernard King—these guys were talented individuals. But they couldn’t get over that hump.”

Kobe’s been over that hump four times now, placing him neatly between Magic Johnson and Larry Bird, and tied with Shaquille O’Neal. The championship question has been answered. He’s won. But he’s still two behind Jordan and he’s only been named Finals MVP once and despite all the accomplishments there’s so much left to do. After the cover discussion dies down in L.A., I ask whether winning the title last year refreshed him:

“It made me hungrier. It made me hungrier, if that makes any sense. It’s like, OK, we’ve got it. I’m in the party now—before I was outside in the street, like begging Phoenix and them to let me in. Now we got in, kicked them out, now you can’t come in. We gonna hold our house down.”

Kobe Bryant, SLAM 136

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  • davidR

    dope cover! makes me think i’m looking at vogue magazine or something similar though

  • Danbury

    Waiting for a Durantula cover. Kid is monster mashing these days.

  • European Idiot

    Man, that was one hell of an ugly cover. But I guess you guys were running out of cover ideas with KB24. The love shown to Smoove, Kevin Love, Vlade, Dirk, Tyreke and JJ was all good, though.

  • JoeMaMa

    It’s high time SLAM tested the readers’ love of the game. Choose between a cover of 1)Pat Summitt 2)Bernard King 3)The UNLV team of the early 90s 4)Bo Kimble/Hank Gathers. Four great stories. Champion, talent, Tark’s teams, insane collegiate domination. Let’s give the usual suspects a rest.

  • http://www.bluefont.com Hisham

    So is this SLAM #136, or Kobe cover #136?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Lang Whitaker

    @Danbury: We just had one like 3 issues ago.
    @JoeMaMa: No.

  • Dan

    I’m so sick of kobe covers. by the way, how come there was no johnny flynn rookie diary in the brandon jennings issue?

  • JoeMaMa

    @Lang: The Curry Family, at an indian buffet? Being served drinks by Toni Kukoc?

  • http://nicekicks.com meloMan2.0

    @Tzvi: Before last night the Raptors were the hottest team in the league and havent been “metiocure” since the firs 20 games of the season… and thats what I’m saying, why couldnt Dirk or Reke get he Cover instead of same ol Kobe

  • http://alimartin07@yahoo.com Ali

    Right on JoMaMa!!!! Die-Heart Laker fan here. But I’d like to see SLAM give us some serious Throw-Back articles. Must not have anyone on their staff over 30 yrs old. Remember that Fighting Illini team with Kenny Battle, Nick Anderson and Kendall Gill, Marcus Liberty and Steven Bardo! WUUUWEEE, they was rough! and the L.V. team of Stacy Augmon, L.J., Anderson Hunt, Greg Anderson, George Ackles, WUUUUWEEE! Cmon’ Son!!!

  • http://courtcred.com coop

    Kobe is the truth and I think the next up in the new school will be Kevin Durant. Also, this kid Quincy Miller shows his Kobe clutch play of the game: http://www.courtcred.com/2010/02/last-minute-bucket-interupts-miller-time/

  • http://Www.lkz.ch/basket Darksaber

    Hahaha, Lang’s dry “no” to JoeMaMa’s suggestions is great. Prompting Joe to offer even more crazy cover ideas… Comedy.

  • http://www.another48minutes.com Gerard Himself

    cool cover. A close-up like that wouldn’t work for my face. Don’t ask. Then again, why would anyone take a pic like that of my face, that would be weird.

  • http://www.addictedtobeauty.ca/ Kevin

    that’s an amazing cover photo.. love the Tyreke Evans love too

  • http://www.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikebasketball/en_US/signature/moves?player=kobe_bryant&move=3 Jackie Moon

    I would like to see Slam completely ignore the economics the magazine industry and instead embrace diversity with a cover of the first Asian NBA player, Wataru Misaka of the 1947-48 Knicks.

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  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Jackie: we did a short piece on Misaka in SLAM 134, if that helps matters at all.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com TADOne

    I just threw up in my mouth a little.

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    Co-sign Jukai.

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  • http://ww.kb24.com The Seed

    Jukai: if you think Kobe cannot hang with Jordan, you must be a Steve Nash fan, because do you remember Kobe at 24 too. Yes Jordan was awesome at 24 years old, but the older Jordan after 7 years in the league is the Jordan everyone sees as the best, because the first part of Jordan career was all about scoring. I read articles where Jordan said I tried to get 4 baskets per quarter, which would give him 32 points just off two’s then add free throws, he had his points. I loved Jordan too, but a real basketball player can see that Kobe can do everything Jordan could do in games, even Phil puts them in the same breath now, but the smart Jukai knows basketball, Come on cat, even Magic states the obvious and feels if Kobe gets two more titles he is the Greatest Laker ever, no matter what yall dumb haters say. Listen to the real coaches and players, plus Phil coached MJ and KOBE, so you be the judge. Once this dude retires some of yall will truly understand how great he was. Kobe Bryant gets haters because he is seen arrogant, aloof, faking, horrible teammate, shoots too much, dislikes Shaq, and is the only player ever that will be able to challenge Jordan if he continues with rings. Also Jordan has alot of those same attritbutes and more, some of yall MJ lovers need to read some other articles than ESPN lovers and really find out how MJ was, MJ needs to be glad the media was not like it is today or he would have been Tiger before he got caught in the Woods.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    Kobe,Bron,Dwight,Wade,Melo… Seems every other ish has one of these fellas on the cover.. How bout Bosh, David Lee, Lamarcus Aldridge, Aaron Brooks, or Z-bo?

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  • http://www.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikebasketball/en_US/signature/moves?player=kobe_bryant&move=3 Jackie Moon

    @Ben Damn, you ruined my joke. Props for featuring my man, but I want a cover!

  • The Wize

    I feel like Kobe’s public (ly percieved) persona is very similar to the more private side of Jordan. I know people that love Jordan but hate Kobe, citing the same attributes against Kobe that Jordan is (in)famous for too! Have I said that before? In other words: like what The Seed just said. Some people just want to hate.

  • http://aol.com Martin Fenn

    @EDITORS AND WRITERS ONLY!!!!!!!

    Yes or No

    When his career is done, will Kobe be better than MJ?

  • JoeMaMa

    Hey Martin, I wrote a check the other day, so I’m allowed to respond. Kobe needs at least 2 more rings as the man…maybe even 3 to have 7, and 4 “on his own”. He also needs another 8,000 points and 2 more MVPs. He also needs to bag Karla Knafel, and lose at least 3 million on the golf course. By the way, I edited this too, so I’m doubly qualified to contribute.

  • doyouwantmore

    What a bunch of Kobehomers. “Beautiful cover.” “Wow, can’t wait to take this home.”

    I don’t hate Kobe, nor his game. I actually respect the guy. It’s the fans I can’t stand.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    So, are Marbury and T-Mac offically done???? Dear Slam- I know hes not exactly r.o.y. materal, but keep an eye on what Jeff Pendergraph is doing for a pretty much all-injured Blazer squad… Still Winning games with Juwan Howard as the starting center and Jeff as his relief..

  • Brickshooting J

    Beautiful beautiful cover (and I don’t particularly like Kobe): great picture, sober fonts, very classy. Seeing Vlade Divac in there kind of hurts my eyes, but other than that, I love it.

  • ADM

    This cover reminds me of the “Accused” Sports Illustrated issue.

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  • http://aol.com Martin Fenn

    Haha yeah JoeMama thats true if my letter to Slam is in the mag, you’ll see a laundry list of s*** Kobe didn’t do that MJ has. I may be young, but I have a boatload of bball knowledge so…

  • http://aol.com Martin Fenn

    @The Seed: Yeah Phil Jax did coach both MJ and Kobe but if you sat down with him and asked him who’s better he’d say MJ every time. And btw Kobe’s not perfect either. Just like MJ’s clearly had his mistakes, so has Kobe. Looks like you and the Wize need to do some research and reconsider that Kobe DEMANDED a trade just three years ago, even with a championship-caliber team (yeah I went there). MJ endured 4 losing seasons and a first-round defeat at the hands of the Celtics in his first 4 seasons in the NBA. Yeah, Kobe won without Shaq, but he still has Gasol (an All-Star caliber player) and Bynum (who may be a premier center some day). You add to that the class of D-Fish, the Sixth Man of the Year type player in Lamar Odom, and the superathletic ability of Trevor Ariza. Man, you better win with that. Could Kobe come out of retirement and put up a double-nickel in just his second game back? No. How about win Defensive POY? Not at this stage of the game. MJ had the FULL package and will never be supplanted as G.O.A.T. Ever

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    SLAM: Who won the Junk Food T-Shirts Contest?!?!

  • http://dsjfhklf.com Jukai

    The Seed: You really are crazy, bro.
    Offensively, what is the difference between Kobe and Jordan? Cause I would say that Kobe is a better shooter than Jordan. He has better footwork too. So why do I think Jordan is better offensively?
    I would say Jordan was almost twice as fast as Kobe was at the age of 24.
    I would say Jordan had a second more hangtime than Kobe.
    Kobe Bryant’s vertical is 38 inches… Jordan had a 45 inch on average, rumored to even reach 48 inches when they unofficially tested him at UNC.
    Not to mention, Jordan would push around Kobe like a ragdoll when they played.
    Kobe is a fantastic physical specimen, he can jump over players, bully other guards, and run circles around NBA players half his age. But he’s lesser in every single way compared to Jordan.
    So, take a superior physical specimen and give him the points and rebounds that Kobe just can’t get… and throw in -superior- court vision (Jordan’s 36 minute assist numbers look identical to Kobe’s full numbvers) and -superior defense- (I’ll even go as far to say that Kobe and Jordan are equally as good man-on-man despite Kobe liking to take off possessions.. but Jordan’s team defense was farrrr better).
    It’s just not close.

  • http://dsjfhklf.com Jukai

    I’ll sum it up for you:
    Kobe and Jordan are very close, skill wise.
    Jordan’s athleticism, court-vision, and overall basketball IQ is FAR greater, I could use the word ‘superior’ to Kobe’s, and that’s why Jordan is the superior player. And every single person the planet, just like Magic, just like Phil Jackson, will admit that freely if asked.
    And of course Kobe will be the best Laker if he wins more championships cause he’ll have six championships to Magic’s 5. I’d still build my team around Magic seven days of the week and twice on Sunday.

  • JoeMaMa

    Kobe came out of highschool onto a playoff team. Jordan had three years of college under a legendary coach, and came onto a sh*t team. Kobe had to bide his time and work his way in, whereas Jordan was given the keys to the squad on the first day of training camp. Kobe played with the third most dominating player ever (paging Wilt and Bill), and didn’t get his own team until what, 8 years after he came in?
    I think Jordan is the best ever, no question. But Kobe came into a different situation. If he has another 3, 4 years resulting in titles and another 27, 28pg/g, you’ve got to start a discussion. Also, I could see Kobe taking a pay cut in the last few years to grab another 2 titles. We wants the glory that bad.
    Last thing: comparing stats from different eras is practically impossible. Different rules, different number of teams, different offensive/defensive mentalities, different situations on the team.
    But…like I said. Jordan – Best.

  • Josh

    Beautiful cover guys. Can’t wait to check this out. And if I start seeing Joe Johnson covers or Gerald Wallace covers because there idiots are complaining, I’ll be pissed. Keep the Mamba covers coming.

  • therighttoremainsalient

    @Jukai – unfortunately, your going to start dealing with alot of “Kobe is near Jordans level” type comparisons, and it’s essentially going to come from the younger generation (that is to say, kids 6-9 years younger than you/us…). The young guys just didn’t see the 91-93/96-98 finals series’ and they didn’t see the pre-playoffs era he endured where he dragged poor teams to 42-45 win seasons averaging 35 ppg. They just don’t have that understanding.

  • Chazz Michael Michaels

    dang enough with all the kobe loving junk… does anyone see the real problem? we have a cover that is so close and personal we could tell kobe about each and everyone of the pores on his face!

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Martin Shenn: You understand that Kobe can play ball right and that he still has six or more years left, so MJ is the only person he can be compare too and he is the Greatest. I believe Phil knows MJ was better, but if Kobe keeps hitting game winners and winning rings, he can go down as the Greatest, plenty of NBA coaches and players have said that, even Avery Johnson said it on TV a few years ago and even stated he is biased towards Jordan. WHO CARES if Kobe demanded a trade, I would demand a trade too playing with Smush, Kwame and Walton in your starting line up. MJ got a team as the Alpha dog. The thing people forget is Kobe worked his way up the hard way. Kobe’s whole career he was given nothing, he got it by his play. You bring up GASOL, ODOM and BYNUM, Ok so MJ playing with PIPPERN, RODMAN, GRANT, KERR doesn’t matter. People forget PiPPEN was the glue to those teams to me and played his role. If Shaq played his role in 04 and later he would have more rings. Also if you think Kobe can’t score 55 in game at Jordan’s age at that time, you are silly, Kobe has score 81 in a game and 62 through 3 quarters. Come on, Also who cares about defensive POY year, Shaq doesn’t even have one, so why put that on Kobe. MJ was a full package, but acting like Jordan played every possession on defense and got back every time and gave his full effort every game on defense is a LIE, I watch plenty of games where Jordan just shot ran back, shot and kept his energy saved for the Offensive end. He played defense on people that were compared to him, when Jordan played scrubs he didn’t care just like Kobe, Kobe plays defense on Melo, Lebron, Dwade, if you notice they never really guard him back. Martin you are blinded by HOLLLINGERS per and others who will do anything to keep MJ from being compared to Kobe, but its coming JUST WAIT and watch a TOP 5 player of all time, when he finishes.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    JUKAI: I am crazy in a good way. I have heard announcers and Players say Kobe is greater offensively than MJ. Who cares how fast MJ was and his hangtime and his vertical. A ball needs to go in the Basket, THAT’S IT!!! If you truly believe that Kobe would not rise to the occasion to guard MJ, you really don’t like Kobe, that’s it. So what Kobe does now can’t compare to what Jordan did against his oppositions is hog wash. I believe there are more athletic players in the league now. I watched those games, and every top player was not gifted athletically during those times. I am tried of these stats geeks finding numbers per 36 minute, when a player might have better players affecting these dumb stats. The statement about team defense is stupid, when Jordan played with to me the greatest defensive one on one player ever in PIPPEN, had Ron Harper, Grant and Rodman. Be quiet. Pippen made a lot of things look easy, plain and simple. The bulls without Jordan that year to me could have won title not for dumb call and their defense was ranked high with out MJ, so your team defense is a wash cat. Also people act like MJ did everything right on the court, come on, if you liked Kobe you would see how great he is, plus Stop saying Magic knows MJ is far better and Phil, but when I watch shows they don’t say that, Because Magic and Phil don’t hold their touges, they say what they want to. Also you can build your team around Magic who cares, I like Kobe, because he is going to prove give him a decent big he gets a title. And those Lakers and Celitic teams of the past were stacked and it does not hurt Bird’s or Magic view in peoples eyes, but now since Kobe has Gasol, its like he can’t win by himself who DID, NOBOBY NOT EVEN MJ. BOLD STATEMENT: I WOULD TAKE PIPPEN AND RODMAN OR PIPPEN AND HORACE OVER SHAQ ANYDAY, BECAUSE to me Shaq underachieved winning only one MVP, because that year he was unstoppable, but he never worked on his game enough to me. Being called the most dominate center is great but I want to see the rings, So saying he played with a all time great doesn’t work for me, because BOLD STATEMENT: Give Kobe, David Robinson who is the only player in NBA history to win the Rebounding, Blocked Shots, and Scoring Titles and Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year and MVP. KOBE would have had more than just those three rings. Shaq for all his joking ways, underachieved and History will not look good on him, when you really break down his numbers and his accomplishments.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Plant that!!!

  • http://dsjfhklf.com Jukai

    The Seed:
    Alright, let me explain some simple concepts first:
    The basket is higher up on the ground than an average person’s arm length. Ten feet actually. The ability to jump plays a pivotal role in basketball. Likewise, the court is very long, and speed comes into a factor as well, not just getting up and down the court, but running by guys who may prevent you from getting a basket. Strength also plays a huge role in basketball.
    Kobe has a great jump shot. Fantastic even. His footwork and ball handling is impeccable. But so was Jordan’s though. Jordan’s jumper was wet from day one: sure, he never had three point range, but right out of High School, Jordan had a sick-midrange game. Jordan’s footwork was as fundamental as it was flashy, and I’d say he had more moves than Kobe does from anywhere on the court. So, skillwise, they’re very close.
    SO THAT’S WHY THE ATHLETES COMES INTO PLAY DUDE.
    Also, I’m not talking about Jordan with Pippen/Grant/Rodman. That Jordan simply locked his man down and occassionally played the passing lanes, but his goal was offense.
    I’m talking about the Jordan before the championships. I’m talking about the Jordan who you were too young to remember… Before the trade for Grant and the draft of Pippen. I’m talking about the Jordan on a so-so defensive team. The Jordan who would lock his man down every night, the Jordan who would score 30 but also get steals and block shots. I know you hate stats, but you see, when Kobe was going crazy and averaging 35 points, he was only getting under two steals and not bothering to go for any blocks– playing man-on-man defense was hard enough. When Jordan was getting 35, he was getting three steals and over a block and a half! To have the STAMINA and WILLPOWER to not only score 35 and lock your man down, but block weakside shots (he did) and disrupt passing lanes (he did) is something unfathomable in this day and age. It simply isn’t done. It’s not something Kobe can do, ever.

  • http://dsjfhklf.com Jukai

    and I think I found this Phil Jackson interview you keep talking about… I think you’re quoting the part where Jackson claims Kobe has more SKILLS that Jordan… and ignoring everything else where Jackson claims Jordan had better hands and was much stronger, was a more efficient scorer, had greater control of the ball, and would raise his game against greater competition unlike Bryant who just goes on random scoring sprees.
    The entire interview seemed to suggest Bryant was an plain offensive player and Jordan was a complete package… but I guess we’ll take what we want out of it.

  • http://aol.com Martin Fenn

    @ The Seed: First of all, it’s Fenn not Shenn. I advise glasses. Second of all, Kobe didn’t come up to the league the hard way. He was the first pick in the draft out of high school and the media treated him like a fu**ing playmate. He was the new, hot thing in the NBA. Also, you can’t go out on a limb and say Kobe is the greatest clutch performer of all time because Kobe won his FIRST FINALS MVP LAST YEAR. MJ: 6 title appearences, 6 titles and SIX FINALS MVPs. Next, Kerr could shoot, that’s it. Rodman and Grant could rebound, that’s it. Ok you’ve got a point with Pippen. And since when has Defensive POY never mattered. Ben Wallace was an All-Star because he was a defensive beast and rebounding vaccum cleaner. What did he do on offense? Next to nothing. You say Kobe scored 81 in a game. Yeah props to him for that, but MJ would definitely have been able to achieve a similar feat had he not been, essentially, a BALLHOG. Next: You say Jordan didn’t play defense? Bro, he has the third most steals in NBA history and was voted to the all-defensive first team NEARLY EVERY SEASON OF HIS CAREER. Like Jukai said, he Kobe could have 48 one night shooting like 60% from the field then score just twelve the next, hitting like 28% of his shots. Bro, you fail to realize Jordan AVERAGED over 30 POINTS FOR HIS ENTIRE CAREER.

    We’re not haters, but take it from a Chi-Town brotha’ who knows, when you try to compare Kobe to MJ ALL-AROUND, there’s gonna be some controversy.

    I respect your opinions and statements, but in the end, they’re fruitless

  • http://aol.com Martin Fenn

    My bad, Jordan has the SECOND most steals in NBA history.

    ‘Nuff said

  • http://dsjfhklf.com Jukai

    Martin Fenn: It’s amazing that Jordan had 259 steals and 131 blocks that season when he won DPOY… yet it was Grant and Pippen and Oakley doing all the defense.
    Oh, by the way, the most steals that Kobe ever had in a season was 181. The most blocks he ever had in a season was 67.

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