Friday, September 30th, 2011 at 4:11 pm  |  134 responses

NBA BATTLES: On Sale Now!

SLAM and 2K12 bring the barbershop and comment section to your bookshelf.

by Ben Osborne / @bosborne17

Cover images and inset photo by NBAE/Getty Images

Even if watching a basketball game is a lot more exciting than watching a baseball game, I have to admit I care almost as much about the latter sport, in part because of the way it embraces its history (insane nights like Wednesday don’t hurt either). The NBA, in my opinion, generally doesn’t do a great job of honoring its history. Ironically, this depressing, lockout-dictated offseason has seen NBA TV unleash an orgy of aged programming, but that’s by default. We’ll see if the League goes back to semi-ignoring its history when the current players are back in action.

As much as SLAM is concerned with unveiling what’s new in the game, from hot shoes to hot rookies to the next big high school sensation, I’d like to think we balance that by honoring the game’s past, with all our Old School stories and consistent nods to history. Given both my and SLAM’s interest in the game’s past greats, we absolutely love what the NBA 2K franchise did with its game this year (pre-order now!). Incorporating legendary teams and players that you can use with or against today’s stars is a brilliant idea that gets to the crux of what people like about the history of a sport: the chance to compare the past with the present. With NBA 2K12’s financial and creative support, we decided to do an entire issue dedicated to this awesome concept. What if Shaq had gotten to battle Wilt? What if an in-his-prime MJ went up against a seasoned Kobe? How about Bill Russell’s 1965 Celtics taking on Doc, Moses and the ’83 Sixers? We settled on these and 17 other matchups, featuring amazing players and teams, all of which are incredibly fun to imagine. And then we analyzed the battle and chose a “winner.”

Some quick words on how we (basically just the full-time staff; much like our Top 500 issue, this came together quickly and there was no time to properly get feedback from all of our great writers) chose winners…

For the players, we took guys who ostensibly play the same type of role on their respective teams, and envisioned them guarding one another in a five-on-five game played when each was at the peak of his powers. For current players, their peak might be right now. In other words, we did not imagine what guys like LeBron James or Kevin Durant could be capable of in three years; we went off of what has really happened in their careers. For the team battles, we only considered teams that had the best regular-season record and won a title, then picked what we think would be the most entertaining cross-era matchups possible. And then, with intelligence, wit and awesome photos (but zero science!), we had a lot of fun with this.

We may decide to post online in the future but for the next couple of months this will be a newsstand-only operation. And without giving you all an annoying, “save print” lecture, that’s how it should be. The photos are honestly tremendous, and the layout is sick, too. Sure, some of you may rush through a write-up to see who we pick as the winner, and we certainly anticipate some serious arguments amongst friends who either agree or disagree with our choices, but this issue is about more than that. This is a chance to take the history of the game you love from your television screen, your computer and your imagination and hold it in your hands. Look for it in New York this weekend and nationally next week!

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  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Dope!

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Looks like a good read, can’t wait.

  • shaolin23

    That’s what’s up…first thing that came to mind was that Pippen/Durant matchup. As Ben states, “For the players, we took guys who ostensibly play the same type of role on their respective teams, and envisioned them guarding one another in a five-on-five game played when each was at the peak of his powers.” Wouldn’t the Durant comparison be best suited against a first option type of player, for example Dr. J?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I agree shaolin. Should be Durant vs Ice Man, or vs Doc J. Looks like an absolutely great read though SLAM!!

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Doc has got a dope battle of his own in here…and with Pip-Durant it was imagining the former trying to stop the latter. I’m sure people will argue with both the matchups we chose and their outcomes but I promise they are all very fun. And the photos…wow.

  • http://sajkflf.com Jukai

    Wow…. this issue is going to upset me and I know it, haha.
    Ben, how many battles are there in total so we can start guessing and arguing?

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    I’m going to cop this regardless because you guys do great work but I wish you guys would be more color blind. Some match-ups would be fair (Stockton v Nash), but I don’t like Dirk v Bird. Aside from being great jump shooters, I don’t feel there’s really a comparison between in their games. I do look forward to the Rose-AI and Magic-LBJ match ups.

  • http://sajkflf.com Jukai

    oh SH*T this weekend I’m f*cking going to the news stand today

  • http://slamonline.com GotHandles?

    SICK IDEA. Can’t wait for the ish and the game.

  • Purple Regin

    Magic vs. Lebron. Haha what a JOKE. It no comparison. Magic would school him if both guys were playing in the prime of they’re careers. Magic ain’t no 75 cent player and did not pull a disappearing act like Lebron does in the Finals or when game are on the line.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    DOPE…..errrrr….cosign Bryan Crawford. Stop taken my adjectives! lol

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    @Huey Stockton’s in here…and it’s not against Nash.
    @Jukai Like I said, above, 20 Battles in total. 15 Player Battles and 5 Team.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Excpet when Magic got Swept Purple Regin.

  • 2kBaller

    Iverson isn’t even in 2k12

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    @2K Baller: they just helped with the idea and sponsorship of the issue. The Battles we came up with were up to us.

  • Baker

    Mike beats kobe (clearly)
    Shaq dominates wilt
    iverson could probably still beat the no passing, no defense, unworthy mvp drose.
    pippen could contain durant somewhat, while kd wouldn’t be able 2 stop scot on D.
    magic could probably beat lbj; but if D wins chips, how does he possibly beat james?
    i’d love to see an examination of barkley/malone plus hakeem/robinson.
    no laker team ever beats THAT bulls team.
    im a philly kid, but can we beat the best celtics team ever? fo fo fo?
    wish they did stockton vs nash…. (the Canadian wins!)
    sprewell vs. artest anyone!? allen houston vs. rashard lewis even? lol

    next one slam does should be one on one so the human highlight film gets his rightful place in BEATING larry bird! lol (who the hell did the hawks really have?!!)

  • BG23

    will this ish be sent to subscribers?

  • http://www.nba.com/heat/ The Angel of Stern

    @Purple Rejin, why don’t you say how you really feel..

  • the preacher

    it really is a sin putting on paper GODS name vs kobe. shame on you slam, that’s blasphemy.

  • Heals

    SLAM just had to put 3 Lakers on the cover, what a blah, blah, blah. Good, good stuff and great timing given the inability to have a season preview issue right now. Props to 2k and SLAM for giving hoops heads their nicotine patch while we’re tryin to go cold turkey. I wouldn’t be surprised if SLAM has a few more tricks up their sleeves to move mags if this lockout drags on as long as many expect…

  • TruthHurts

    Slam stays slurping Iverson.

  • manu

    @TruthHurts….AI is easy top 30 ever….even when dfish was wit prime kobe he said iverson n shaq were the 2 best in the L in an interview in 01

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    So is it like, a poll between the writers or is it 1 writer or so per match-up with a definitive *this player* wins? I guess I’ll just have to find out.

  • http://kb24.com Bigi

    Nice, can’t wait!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    I dont know why people keep comparing Lebron To Magic and Jordan, a more appropriate comparison would be Grant Hill.

  • Zabbah

    Lebron vs Jason Terry would’ve been more appropriate, with Terry winning easily.

  • Jesse

    I guess @PurpleRegin never heard about Tragic Magic. Know your history my man. Also I think the Lebron/Magic comparison makes total sense. Most interesting to me is Durant/Pippen. Love Durant but you have to go Pippen on that one. I look forward to picking this up.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    I’m a fan of KD but if Ron Artest could bother him that much two years ago, just imagine what Pip could have accomplished defendling.

  • Armando

    It should be Bird vs James, big, great passing SFs, no. 1 options, similar type stats… oh, wait, Bird is a winner who never gave up… bad comparison

  • http://celtics.com lights out

    besides the bird vs. dirk comparison (which i think is a lazy comparison, based more on race than on their having comparable games), looks like a great issue. i think pippen would suffocate durant. like teddy said, artest man-handled him.

  • Jesse

    Saying Pippen would manhandle him is no knock on Durant though. Besides Jordan who was a better defender than Pippen in the 90s? Also agree about the Dirk/Bird thing seemingly being kind of lazy and having more to do with them both being white, but I’ll reserve final judgment until I read the issue.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    Would be fun to see a dunker vs Vince Carter. Either Dr. J or Dominique.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1413791764 angel tulod

    cant wait till i get my hands on this! kobe!!

  • MUBWAR

    jordan and pippen are about equal on D. and bron and bird is a more appropriate comparison than Dirk.

  • JACKSON

    BullsvsPistons??????

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    100% agree with the insight that people within the game do not emphasize the History of the game.
    Me personally, (not that it matters) I take pride in my knowledge of the History of the NBA. The History of this beautiful game.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    “the no passing, no defense, unworthy mvp drose”???
    You mean the “drose” that was 10th in the L in assists per game, vastly improved his defense, and won the MVP convincingly?
    That “drose”?
    Do you Rose haters even watch his games?

  • Soulja3

    LMFAO at Baker
    Are you talking about the Iverson who averaged 28 shots a game? and gambled on defence to get a steal rather than stay on his man? and wouldn’t believe that he was no longer a star and killed team chemistry?
    Please.. Today’s D-Rose would beat him at any point of AIs career, because he is bigger but just as fast (if not faster), not to mention better range, better defence (best defensive PG in the NBA in terms of on-ball/help/PPP defense). So keep dreaming about Practice…

  • Soulja3

    Also quit comparing a prime Kobe to a 35 year old MJ. If you want a real comparision put him up against the Jordan with hair LOL.. It will be sad to watch.

  • Drob

    A.I. vs Drose???? I dunno…A.I. owns the patent on the streetball xover in the NBA, way better shooter, he can carry any team on back( 6ft nothing and 180 lbs soaking wet), pick your pocket any day of the week…should be more like A.I. vs Bob Cousy or even Zeke…

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Mike and Kobe tie in my opinion, hopefully Slam really does there homework on this. Mike was not the greatest defender once he became a ring wearer and Mike shot the BUlls out of alot of games.

    Wilt kills Shaq, beause a tiny no strong Tim Duncan used to abuse Shaq or Lakers have more rings.

    Magic beats Lebron, because Lebron thinks Killer instinct is the video game from the 1990′s.

    BOOK IT!!

  • robb

    this issue is a most

  • robb

    *must

  • Rainman

    co sign that a more appropriate comparison to LeBron would be an in prime Grant Hill. This guy was LeBron before LeBron , ppl seem to forget that

  • jayb

    could probably do a full mag on mj and mamba alone..cool idea..i like it!!!

  • jayb

    how about magic and penny?? or lbj vs penny..do like ghill vs lbj thou!

  • Rainman

    also cosign bron-Bird.

    Could be an interesting debate talent wise, as pointed above, good passers, (bird probably even more so than bron is now, he was so talented as a passer) Rebounders(Bird again, he aveaged 10 many times im pretty sure) good scorers(ill give it to Bron barely on this, although he couldnt score as many ways as Bird could,as bird had a back to the basket game, Bron was just sooo much more athletic, and used it to his advantage).

    Now, they are different at the same time, Bird wasnt nearly as athletic, nor was Bron any where near as good a shooter. So there were similarities and big differences at the same time there…

  • C Da Tyrant

    slam got 4 lakers on one cover (Wilt too.)

  • http://slamonline.com yallllalalal

    Yes Sir.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    D.rose is a underrated shooter. yeah I said it, besides last playoffs, he has always been a better shooter than people give him credit for.

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