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Wednesday, June 24th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  75 responses

Foye, Miller Traded for No. 5

The Wolves and Wizards add to pre-Draft frenzy.

by Marcel Mutoni

Last night, Minnesota and Washington rounded out a busy day of trades (and head-scratching trade rumors). David Kahn, the new Wolves’ president (he’s had the gig for little over a month), made his first big move.

Mike Miller and Randy Foye are no longer gainfully employed by the T-Wolves, meaning that Minny will likely be looking to shore up its backcourt tomorrow night during the NBA Draft.

The Star Tribune has more:

The bold six-piece transaction that sends Mike Miller and Randy Foye to Washington for the fifth pick in Thursday’s NBA draft begs a question: With the hours quickly ticking away, just who is he after in a draft some NBA executives have called the thinnest they’ve seen in years?

Kahn’s opening move essentially wipes clean the team’s existing backcourt and makes the Wolves further committed to youth and the 2010 draft, when the Wolves will have two more first-rounders if their own pick is in the Top 10.

It provides a fourth first-round pick to a team that already has accumulated the sixth, 18th and 28th overall picks Thursday and presumably doesn’t want three, let alone four rookies on next season’s team. With Foye’s departure, it sends away the player who — fairly or unfairly — most reminds Wolves fans of Kevin McHale’s failure in 14 seasons as Kahn’s predecessor.

It’s a new day in Minny, this much is clear. What remains to be seen is if all of the maneuvering and rebuilding can translate into the only thing that matters: wins.

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  • Michael

    this move is an all in bet for the wiz, they have a ton of firepower now

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    I emailed a link to Ryne last night and posted this trade everywhere. People didnt believe me. I WIN.

  • BostonBaller

    McHale better not get a cushy job here in Boston (Even if he did hand KG to us)

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    I know you did BET, good job. Great trade for the WIZ.

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    No one complaining about this deal? The Wizards gave up their pick! No one thinks this is a bad move by Washington?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/2008/11/future.html Moose

    BETCATS does win.

  • nicko

    so i guess the wizards are goin for that all guard offense a la villanova of the past couple years….another 10 years at the bottom

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/2008/11/future.html Moose

    I think it’s a terrible move by Washington, Gerard. They got a supposed “veteran leader” in Mike Miller that can shoot a jumpshot but couldn’t bring what Minny thought they had. Foye was under the radar last year, but he put up some good numbers. But his style of play is so similar to Arenas that I don’t know how they will co-exist efficiently. And they still don’t have a tough big man, something they’ve needed. (Jordan Hill, anyone?)

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/2008/11/future.html Moose

    SLAMOnline is messing with me again.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    I was hoping the Nuggets would have been able to worm Miller away from the Twin Cities this summer…. oh well.

    They can just sign Lee Cummard (who probably won’t get drafted) to a free agent rookie deal.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Moose, if it messes with you again, let me know. I will beat it up and take its lunch money.

  • D12FSU

    way to be like 12 hours late with this one

  • nicko

    womp womp

  • Michael

    the wiz gave up a number 5 pick in a very thin draft for a proven nba commodity in miller and a very much improving combo guard in foye to spell miller or arenas. I think its a decent trade for the wiz. Starting 5 of jamison, butler, miller, arenas and haywood is explosive with foye, young, mcgee off the bench. That is a top 4 team in the east.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    Michael, we’ve thought that in the past, but injuries have kept the Wizards from even thinking about getting a high seed in the playoffs. And in an increasingly competitive Eastern Conference, I don’t see it. I DO see Butler averaging 25. But I don’t see Washington as a four seed. I might see them as a 6 or 7 seed, maybe.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    And BETCATS, what’s good? Out of school for summer….chicka chicka yeah!

  • JoeMaMa

    Cosign Michael. Foye came on strong last season, and with Young they’ll both fill up the score quickly. This team is now instant offense: three 20 point scorers, great three point shooting, young talent. Weak draft, strong move. Arenas has gotta be loving his return, and Jamison/Butler can finally allow a smile after hell year.

  • Michael

    @moose, yeah of course injuries play a part and they have had a lot of issues but that is a very potent line up. They probably won’t play much defense but they could score 120 a night. Magic, Cavs, Celtics i guess…who else right now is definitely better than the Wiz look on paper? I would take their team over the bulls, hawks or sixers

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    The wizards must be playing with two balls this year.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Moose, i would tell you, but you wouldnt believe me.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    @Michael: I’d take Atlanta and Philly over the Wizards for consistency, age and speed. Butler, Foye and Arenas (WHEN healthy) are the quickest ones on the team, but everyone else is either aging or just plain slow. Their defense is going to stink, and Atlanta and Philly can run the ball really well.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    It’s all good BET. As long as there aren’t any undercover Raleigh cops on SLAMOnline.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Well, when you put it like that: NO

  • underdog

    Randy Foye back on the east coast! Anyway it’s too bad the Pistons let Amir Johnson go.

  • Soufeast

    This is a great move by the Wizards. They already have enough youth (Blatche, Crittendon, McGee, McGuire and Young) what they needed was more experienced depth and better outside shooting and they got a great duo in Miller and Foye. Only thing that disappoints me about this deal is that the Wizards didn’t get one of Minnesota’s first rounders in return but no biggie. The Wizards made a good move but they still have more work to do. The frontcourt is practically destitute now with only 3 bigs left in Blatche, Haywood, and McGee so they definitely need to make some more moves to shore up that frontline. Dwight Howard didn’t get the trophy but he’s still a force to be reckoned with.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    So, are the rumors true that Minny is trying to get the #2 pick from Memphis?

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Tad: only if Memphis takes Rubio

  • http://www.ojhoops.blogspot.com the baconator

    WOOHOO MOOSE! I just finished my Physics Regents (the state standardized test here in NY), meaning I’m officially done with school also!

  • http://nationofmillions.ca Ciolkstar

    I think this was a solid move by the Wiz. The added two nice perimeter players, and were able to get rid of Oleskiy Pecherov and Etan Thomas’ contracts. They may still have some frontcourt issues, but the trade gives them some really nice depth and increased versatility. And I’ve heard the Kahn is intent on packaging two of the wolves’ first rounders to move up and probably get Rubio.

  • http://www.ojhoops.blogspot.com the baconator

    Oh yeah, and Minny didn’t get a whole hell of a lot out of this trade, other than the 5th pick. Randy Foye did a decent job last season, and Mike Miller wasn’t too horrible. I could see Minny looking to steal Rubio with the 5th if he falls that far

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    YEAH, Baconator. Nice.

  • jumpman3224

    I dont agree with the common assesment that this is a weak draft at or near the top Griffin, Rubio, Curry, Evans, Holiday, Jennings (among others) all have star potental and there are a lot of quality players that have gotten less hype that will be solid pros ie Maynor, Taylor, Blair. I dont think in retrospect this will look like 96 or 03 but it could be solid.

  • http://dsfkl.com Jukai

    How does this help EITHER team? This seems dumb to me.
    Maybe if Rubio falls to 5th, like Baconator suggests, this is great for Minny. If not, then Minnesotah really.. just gave up something for nothing.

  • http://dsfkl.com Jukai

    Minny’s lineup would be… Rubio, Harden, somebody (either Carney or Bewer, I guess), Love and Jefferson???
    that’s a decent line-up, sort of OKC-ish youthfully scary.
    Subtract Rubio and throw in Curry? Not so much.
    Actually, Johnny Flynn wouldn’t be THAT bad here. Shout out to Ciolkstar. If OKC takes Rubio, and I was Minny, I’d grab Flynn. I’m not sure how both Love and Jefferson in the paint would effect Flynn’s game, but Flynn is more of a drop off point guard and not a kick-out point guard, so it’ll work for him.
    I would not select Jennings.

  • http://dsfkl.com Jukai

    Oh, and if Minny pulls a… well Minny, and DOESN’T select a point guard to replace Foye and relies on Telfair, they deserve to lose every game of the season

  • http://www.hoopsmanifesto.blogspot.com Jeff Fox

    Bad move for the Wizards – now they have 2 guys in the backcourt who aren’t point guards.

  • http://nbacheapseats.blogspot.com Chendaddy

    Randy Foye and Mike Miller are going to be nice back-ups to Arenas and Butler, respectively, and that’s about all. Plus now they have an even less reliable frontcourt, unless McGee gained 40 lb or Blatche learned how to play basketball over the offseason. Minnesota, it just occurred to me, could not possibly be keeping four first-round picks, even if they draft two Euros with their last two and stash them away for the next few years. I’m guessing they plan on trading the #5 and 6 picks up, maybe for the 2 or 3 to pick up Rubio or Thabeet.

  • http://nationofmillions.ca Ciolkstar

    I’ve heard Memphis could move the 2nd pick for Minny’s 5th and 16th.
    Also, I wonder what the addition of Foye will mean for Nick Young?
    Arenas/Foye
    Butler/Young/Stevenson
    Miller/Songalia
    Jamison/McGee
    Haywood/Blatche

    The Wiz have a bunch of multipostional players, but they’re still lacking front court depth. This trade could work really well or be a disaster.

  • http://www.sprint.com/pre dma

    washington’s youth is laughable – Blatche, Crittendon, McGee, McGuire and Young. at least they have a solid 8 man rotation now and the young guns will have another year to grow. wolves… well, let’s just hope they have more than 10 wins.

  • jumpman3224

    jukai – word on the street is that they are trying to package one of those two picks and the 18th to move into the top 3 and not have to worry about rubio falling. Agreed tho that if they dont land the RIGHT PG this will have been all for not.

  • http://www.unitedplayersofamerica.com John Delaware

    What is up with the hype of Ricky Rubio? A white boy point guard throws a few behind the back passes and he is the next pete maravich?

    The Twolves would be wise to select Tyreke Evans as their point guard of the future. If they want to move up to No.2 to take a player, send Kevin Love, 6th, and 18th picks to Memphis and take Thabeet.

    Thabeet, Al Jefferson, C. Brewer, Gomes, and Tyreke Evans post-draft, pre-free agency isn’t too bad of a look, but the Twolves will surely add a scoring 2 guard in free agency.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    If the wolves trade up just to draft Sam Dalembe-i mean Thabeet, I’m boycotting all Minnesota sports events until KGs funeral. If they do trade up with Memphis I wanna know what else they’d have to throw in to get Gay.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Pause.

  • http://dsfkl.com Jukai

    Ciolkstar: They traded Songalia, didn’t they?
    jumpman3224: Yeah, I’ve been hearing. I’m not sure I’m TERRIBLY happy with that. They trade away two players for one, then trade another two for one. That’s like saying Rubio is worth Foye, Miller, Evans/Jennings/Flynn AND whoever the hell their 18th pick would be. Rubio could be the next coming of Gary Payton, he could also be the next Jose Calderon without the jump shot. That’s an awful lot of faith.
    If they were going to trade up, they should trade up for Thabeet and then trade Love (who is a clone of Al) for a more reasonable point guard. That’s just my opinion though.
    John Delaware: Yeah, he’s just hyped because he’s white. Just another great white hope. When will they learn, am I right???? It’s not like he’s proven himself in a tough nosed professional league or anything.

  • http://Slamonline.com Tcew

    They should draft derozan and jennngs

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    I must say: as bad as this trade it for Washington, finally Wolves fans (are there any?) have something to cheer for this upcoming season. Could we call this the Blazer approach?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Washington is a mess. What’s the vision here? What’s the plan? Did they give up on Nick Young? This move doesn’t help them at all.

  • http://dsfkl.com Jukai

    Tcew: Jennings needs to be in a fast-break team to be effective. Jennings is not the answer.

  • LBJ23

    NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Considering that the cupboard is basically bare aside from Love-who actually can initiate a fast break with his passing-and Al Jeff, this team has no identity. So drafting Jennigns and DeRozan aint bad if the intention is to build a running squad. Otherwise Im happy with Rubio who can play in the half and full court pretty well for an overhyped white boy.

  • Quail

    so was it pecherov,5th pick, thomas and songaila goin to the wolves for miller and foye? im so confused…

  • http://dsfkl.com Jukai

    Myles: Eh, not a terrible point. I just wonder how Jefferson would be on a fast break team. The Celtics and T-Wolves were pretty slow.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Maybe Telfair is going to start now and finally develop?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Ciolkstar looks like BJ Mullens’ @ss.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    If the T-Wolves can land Jennings and DeRozan… That’s a scary backcourt right there.
    The Raptors better hope they can land Tyreke Evans.

  • jbas

    Teddy-the-Queer needs to shut up

  • Josh D

    Speaking of Trades ESPN is reporting Crawford 2 the Hawks

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    BREAKING NEWS: JAMAL CRAWLFORD TRADED TO THE HAWKS FOR ACIE LAW AND SPEED CLAXTON

  • seppo

    i hope miller regains his aggressiveness on offense. there was an extended stretch of games games last season where miller simply refused to shoot the ball.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Not funny, jbas. You’re an idiot.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    You ARE BJ Mullens’ @ss.

  • Canuck

    Are the Hawks planning on keeping Bibby now that they have Crawford, because Crawford is not a point guard.

  • http://www.ojhoops.blogspot.com the baconator

    @Z: Great question. When he’s given the chance, Nick Young’s produced for them. Sadly, Dominic McGuire was given the start over him. So much for what Gil once referred to as “a young Kobe.”

  • Quail

    if they draft derozan and jennings, derozan will lead them in scoring, jefferson in rebounds, and Jennings in assists. that would be a pretty good core 3 for them. Just DONT take Curry.

  • Zach

    Amen to Moose’s comment. The Wiz needed Jordan Hill

  • Zach

    Amen to Moose’s comment. The Wiz needed Jordan Hill

  • Zach

    Amen to Moose’s comment. The Wiz needed Jordan Hill

  • bashmo

    Good move for both teams….Washington gets Caron/Gilbert/Antawn/now with mike Miller…good move.

    And tWolves have some better help for telfair and upcoming star al jefferson. Good move, David.

  • http://www.slamonline.com melvin ely

    this would have been an excellent move for the wiz…if eddie jordan was still coaching

  • C-money$$$

    I live in Minnesota so I have to say I like this move so much that, depending on who the Twolves draft, I might actually start watching them again. It has been so painful since KG departed and it was unwatchable this year after Big Al got injured.

  • jose

    Shaq is officially a CAV!!!

  • http://slamonline blaze

    cool t-wolves are starting fresh, hope they dont have too high of hopes of being good right away. they are putting together a nice, young team and Washington is more of a vetern team. Good trade for both parties. I still think either Gil, Jamison, or Butler will be gone.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    THE KNICKS GOT THE 29TH PICK.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Looking at Wiz’s roster now though, i still dont see much Playoff hope activity….

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