Tuesday, October 6th, 2009 at 10:00 am  |  47 responses

Andrew Bynum, 6th Man?

Despite his stated goal to be on the floor during crunch time (and an All-Star), Young Andrew has been running with the Lakers’ second unit during training camp: “Has there ever been an all-star center whose team regularly left him on the bench at crunch time? Lakers coach Phil Jackson typically played Lamar Odom over Bynum during the final five minutes of close games last season, a decision that irked the young center enough to spout off to the media about it several times. As a result, Bynum has made it a goal this season to earn a spot among Jackson’s chosen five to finish games … It’s too soon to evaluate whether Bynum will have the opportunity to achieve those goals this season, but early signs aren’t especially promising.”

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  • grenners

    he looks like a very big gary coleman.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    I’ve never heard of an all-star off the bench big. Wing, yes. Big, never.

  • Fat Lever

    I question Bynum’s dedication. He ditched Kareem, he made more noise injured with stuff like his Playboy mansion episodes than he did on the court all season. Stuff like that makes me wonder how much he really wants to achieve the goals he’s laid out for himself. Don’t spout off at the media young fella, just work that much harder so that Jax has no choice but to consider you for that starting C position.

  • NUPE

    I would have Odom come off the bench and start Bynum. This makes the second team a lot better and Odom is not needed as much to support the starting squad. However, in the final 5 min in a close game, you just have to put in your best grp. whcih does not include Bynum.

  • jumpman3224

    Agreed with Nupe. Odom gives the second unit a floor leader and go-to guy.

  • riggs

    12TH MAN

  • http://antwonomous.blogspot.com Antwonomous

    I actually like this idea. When Odom is in that’s their best five, start and finish the game with him. Have Bynum play with the second team and let them run the offense through him. He needs touches and those are going to be even harder to come by with Ron-Ron here now. Also, he never seemed that comfortable playing with Gasol on offense last year. This may be for the better. And I still think he could come off the bench and get 14-8 and make the All-Star team.

  • mdshuai33

    I’m pretty sure Kevin McHale came off the bench for a good chunk of his career.

  • rog123

    sounds like he would rather start and be an all star than be a six man and get to the finals again

  • rog123

    sounds like he would rather start and be an all star than be a six man and get to the finals again..

  • Witness

    @ Z: What about Kevin McHale?

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Andrew Bynum’s an All-Star?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    I stand corrected. McHale made 3 of his 7 ASG as a 6th man.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    He will be this year, Russ.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Mm-hm. Tell me another one. Also, the Lakers have more of a chance of getting their own show on E! than they do of repeating.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Someone name two centers in the West that will have a better season than Bynum.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Marc Gasol, Emeka Okafor, Joel Przybilla, Chris Andersen, Tim Duncan (who may very well be listed as a center this year with Yao out and Shaq gone and Oberto off the Spurs), Chris Kaman and Mehmet Okur. I could probably keep going. Also, this will all be moot when Drew goes down with a knee injury in December.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    That’s just my opinion. And obviously some of those guys won’t make the All-Star team because of team record, or, in Gasol’s case, because he won’t receive a single pass all year. Then again, if Drew has decided he doesn’t need to listen to Kareem anymore, he’s going to average 36 and 16 this year and prove me wrong.

  • http://fdsjklf.com Jukai

    mdshuai33: I’m prettttty sure McHale was ‘slightly’ better than Bynum. And when I say “slightly” I actually mean “redonculously”

  • http://facebook.com/jasennielsen jbn74sb

    We didn’t need much from Bynum last year, and won’t need much again this year. However, if he stays healthy the entire year and plays close to his potential, then it’s over.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Besides Tim Duncan and MAYBE Okufor and Okur I’m gonna assume the rest of your list was a joke, Russ. The only thing I’m not sure about is how much Chris Paul is gonna effect Okufor’s production. Bynum avg. more points a game in less mins. and probably about half the touches last season. As far as Okur is concerned I just don’t see a three point shooting center who plays little to no defense in the ASG.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Yeah, it’s not like he made it 2007 or anything.

  • http://www.boogiewilliams.com Boing Dynasty aka make it reign aka flightschool aka the ghetto Kornel David

    Nene is CLEARLY better than Bynum and what does Bynum exactly do that Kaman can’t? Or Emeka? That’s not even counting AL Jeff who’s prolly going to be listed as a C and maybe STAT too.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    @Boing:CLEARLY? They’re numbers are virtually identical from last year except Nene played 5 more min. a night. Nene definitely has a shot at the ASG too this year. The problem is that unless you watched the Lakers play on a nightly basis last year you have no idea how good Bynum is. He’s the third sometimes 4th option on his squad and if he played on a lesser team, like the Timberwolves or Warriors, he’d be an automatic 20 and 10 guy. You can’t say that about many guys.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    And Russ, I’m talking about this year. Okur was def. more deserving than 2007 Andrew Bynum, but he won’t be of the 2009 one.

  • jdn41

    i disagrred with brad long before about bynum but now that you take in yao is out and shaq gone to the east i think its fair game BUT it all depends on where tim duncan/amare goes if one or both of them go center bynum is a wrap if they both go forward i see bynum making it fans have no choice but to vote al jefferson at starting center and coaches have no choice but to put bynum in, it’s all politics naw mean

  • Vuk

    this is a stupid article with absolutely no meaning, Bynum will be the started when the season starts the only reason hes not during team scrimmages is because it would make no sense to have the 2 lakers biggest players in Gasol and Bynum on the same squad because no one else on that team could put up a challenge to guard either of them except for Odom … this means nothing, the lakers starting five is:
    Fisher (possible Farmar down the stretch)

    and to all the people doubting Bynum, hes gonna be a beast this year. what people forget is that hes 21 years old and for a guy his size its gonna take time for him to get used to carrying around that 7 foot 280 pound body and i think this will be the year when he reaches that new level that he definitly can do

    2nd championship of Kobes 2nd threepeat comming up!

  • J-Ro

    Lakers for closing seconds:


    ….just an opinion…

  • Vuk

    no for the final 2 minutes of a close game fisher is the PG of that team, hands down … hes a seasoned vet who knows what hes doing and wont make a mistake with the game on the line, not saying that kobe would but for the closing seconds i think it should be PG-fisher, SG-kobe, SF-artest, and between odom, Gasol and Bynum it should be Gasol and whoevers had a better game between odom and bynum … if i was coaching the lakers most ngiht i think that would still be odom until bynum shows me otherwise … but fisher is definitly my closing point guard hands down

  • davidR

    brad, if bynum played on the warriors, he’d have a season-ending knee injury by the time the warriors lose 5 games

  • black pinoy

    that lineup wont work.. kobe cant play point .. if he doesnt hed look more of a ball hog if he brings the ball to down the court and end up shooting it aswell..

  • Mr.stoney

    ure right but at one point lamar odom was touted as the next magic and we all know he can play the point so the best laker lineup would be
    SG-take a guess
    SF-Crazy Ron

  • http://www.twitter.com/showmeyourwits showmeyourwits

    One benefit to having Bynum come off the bench is that he wouldn’t be in foul trouble 2 minutes into the game. Also he’d be one of the best on the floor running with the 2nd unit. Name a backup C in the west that can guard him…

  • rog123

    Greg oden, any back up from sa or hou. And Why does he gotta be from the west? Wallace can take care of him too.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    It depends on matchups as well. If the team your playing is the Warriors and they have Biedrins at the 5, then Pau is a better matchup.
    Bynum has no place on the court there.
    He’s not a guy you can throw the ball to and expect a score with 2 mins left. Defensively, you can’t be comfortable leavhing him there 1 on 1 like maybe Pau/Odom.
    At point you could always stick in Brown instead of Fisher too btw.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Is Bynum STILL 21 yrs old? Wasn’t he 21 3 yrs ago? He won’t be an Allstar this year. Fans won’t vote him in and coaches sure as heck wont.

    Dirk, T Duncan and Amare will all get the ‘nod’ at centre for the allstar game this year in the west (certainly with yao out). And with Russ’ list I will add David Andersen to that list of centres that will have better seasons than Bynum.

  • Steve

    Still think they should try to trade the punk out for Conly and Gasol Jr.

    LA – Conley, Kobe, Artest, Odom, Gasol Sr starting, with Fisher/Farmar, Walton and Gasol Jr off the bench. Gasol Jr far more likley to accept a bench role behind hid bro while the two can still play together if you want to go big. Conley is a huge upgrade over either Fisher or Farmar too.

    Mem – AI, Mayo, Gay, Randolph, Bynum starting, with Thabeet and the rest of their scrubs off the bench. Gives Bynum his starting spot and he is an upgrade over Gasol Jr for the team, plus it solves the AI starting issue.

    I think the dollars roughly work too, though not 100% certain on that part. Can always find scrubs to make it work though.

  • Shem

    Having kobe, artest, odom, gasol, bynum on the court would be good but to be honest i would rather fisher on the court over bynum because he is more clutch and a solid defender.. with that kobe artest odom gasol bynum lineup it would be good because the defense would be very lengthy and strong it would be hard to score….. THEN AGAIN theres kobe

  • Shem

    Having kobe, artest, odom, gasol, bynum on the court would be good but to be honest i would rather fisher on the court over bynum because he is more clutch and a solid defender.. with that kobe artest odom gasol bynum lineup it would be good because the defense would be very lengthy and strong it would be hard to score….. THEN AGAIN theres kobe

  • Tredders

    Cosign NUPE

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Saw David Anderson play for Barça, soft as tissue paper.

  • la huey

    didn’t chris gatling make the all-star team as a 6th man?

  • rog123

    Ok bynum, right now, is potential. Potential to be an all star, potential to be a dominant force, potential to play a whole season, potential to finish games.

  • rog123

    Ok bynum, right now, is nothing but potential. Potential to be an all star, potential to be a dominant force, potential to play a whole season, potential to finish games.

  • josh

    Oden will be better than bynum this season… Oden put up 18 points and 9 rebounds preseason tonight. 10 of 12 on ft. just a preseason game but he played good, and got to the line and converted. also had a block and a steal in only 26 minutes.

  • Kas

    Bynum will never be an all-star

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    What davidR said, except Al Jefferson’s team. He’ll be a +1 big, center/PF whatever back too. Russ likes Ghostface more than Andris “Beans” Biedrins, who starts. That’s a shame. Chris BirdMandersen is the backup (+beard) this year still too. But really Bynum needs to try to get traded to the East, and try again to get on after those 2 Supermen.