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Tuesday, September 21st, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  271 responses

Mo Williams Nearly Quit Basketball After LeBron Left

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

LeBron James’ departure from Cleveland made people in Ohio do a lot of crazy things. From the team’s owner losing his grip on reality (and decency) in a blaze of comic sans glory, to fans setting expensive jerseys on fire.

For LeBron’s teammates, the news hit home especially hard, as they came to the sudden realization that things would never be the same again. According to Mo Williams — who’d grown close to James during their time together on the Cavs — he nearly retired from the game.

Yahoo! reports:

Mo Williams is 27, healthy and has three years and $26 million remaining on his Cleveland Cavaliers contract. But none of that mattered much to him this summer after he watched LeBron James leave the Cavs to join the Miami Heat. Williams said he was so depressed by James’ exit that he considered walking away from the NBA.

“That’s how bad it got,” Williams said. “I contemplated it. I really sat down and envisioned life after basketball … I really saw myself not playing. It just didn’t make sense to me … It doesn’t make sense to me.”

“This summer was very, very stressful for me,” Williams said. “I really lost a lot of love for the game this summer. You play this game for one reason. You play to win games and win championships. I couldn’t understand why a lot of things were happening to our organization, to a really good basketball team. I couldn’t really understand it. And when you don’t understand things, it can really stress you out.”

Dan Gilbert has been relentless with his propaganda about how the Cavs are almost better off without LeBron James, now that they have the freedom to do things “the right way.”

It’s the emotional and candid Mo Williams, however, who paints the picture that most accurately describes the state of things in Cleveland now.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Wow. I mean, c’mon Mo, you’re Mo Gotti, you have the Cavs play the Godfather theme every time you hit a J…how could you think of walking away from the game because one guy left for greener pastures? Would you really verbalize this? I mean this is the ultimate bit*h, right here.

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/overdribbling chiqo

    uh wow. somebody give mo a hug.

  • slamfan4life

    you know Ebay its your Heats fault that one of the best players to ever grace the hardwood almost retired!!!! lol

  • http://slamonline.com Yknot

    Mo…seriously…..pause!

  • http://www.twitter.com/kevinchung Kevin

    as much as i’m NOT a Mo Williams fan, i feel for him a little bit coz he’s going to get killed for this.. that said, don’t know if coming out and openly saying any of this is going to help him in any way though, pretty much sums up why he could never be an integral part of a championship team. no pro athlete or even male should lack cohones this badly to even think about retirement just coz another pro athlete changed teams. butthurt, zzzzzzz

  • Tupack Shackur

    There’s no end to how bad I feel for Mo Williams. I can totally empathize with how he feels, but it seems like he’s headed towards being characterized as a big wussy. Let the man feel.

  • Bmack

    c’mon Moe. This is ur oppurtunity to create a bane for yourself. This is what happens when teams give one Guy too much “power”. Let da guy leave and you become da man

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Fine…fine, I guess it would be a bummer if the best talent in the game left your team under sh*tty circumstances, but as a pro, wouldn’t you want to try and take the mantle of being “The Man” for your team and try to build up your team the best way you could with your skills? C’mon.

  • Squirrel7

    That is possibly the most pathetic thing I’ve ever read. Seriously, I hate Lebron, but you can hardly blame him for being an egomaniac with muppets like this pandering to him. As if any professional athlete would quit the game just because a friend/team-mate had. I hope the journalist punched him in the face once he’d finished talking.

  • Squirrel7

    *had left, I meant

  • http://kb24.com DreXnaW21

    sad :(

    LeBron was better wearing a Cavs jersey, but to see him leave his hometown for Miami sucks…

    i still have my LeBron (Cleveland) jersey, i’m not gonna burn it though :P

  • Hedo Turkeyglu

    Mo was stressing about how “The Decision” was handled, seemingly without regard to the fans in Cleveland. Dissing the folks on national television was not cool any way you look at it.

  • T-Money

    Damn, Mo. I wonder if he’s jealous of Savannah too – she gets to lay her head on his chest every night. I remember Joe He was tareront that there was still time to make Bron come back after the decision. Wow.

  • Nick the Quick

    I see why he would be upset that Lebron left but no way in hell should a player who considers himself to be an elite pro athlete come out and say that he considered retirement because of “The Decision”. It’s almost as if he feels entitled that he should play with Lebron for life, wheresoever he may go and should Lebron be separated from him, life will not continue.

  • Clos1881

    I feel like I gotta say no homo after reading this lol. This is part of the reason Mo brasco never shows up in the playoffs,and Lebron left because they didn’t have any nuts.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    “I sat in the dark, cried for two weeks, couldn’t leave my house, and all I did was eat chocolate ice cream!” Who am I? I hope the Cavs go 0-82 this season. Give Mo a “real” reason to call it quits. This was the lamest ish I’ve ever heard.

  • T-Money

    I remember how he was saying* (typing on iPhone…)

  • chazz michael michaels

    so basically Mo is mad Bron pulled out? its okay Mo, Bron will still nail you before Heat-Cavs games

  • Ali

    3 years and 26 Mil, Nuff said…Moe needs to be in the gym and weight room, day and night, working on his game. Let it go bro, move on.

  • JTaylor21

    I think that basketball and the world would be a better place if he just really quit. Sh* the way he plays in the playoffs is like he’s not there anyway so why doesn’t he just disappear for the 10 seasons, nobody will miss him. If this is the NEW go-to guy for the cryvaliers, then cryveland will have a whole lot more crying to do this season.

  • Overtime

    In fairness, i think it was him just saying he thought about life after bball or if he walked away, which is perfectly natural really. He jus shouldnt mention Lebron in the same sentence

  • Zabba

    HoMo Williams.

  • clockwork

    What, you feel sad Mo? Imagine what Ron Harper and Kukoc felt in 99 when Jordan, Pippen, Rodman and Phil Jackson all left the Bulls. Just play ball and stop whining man.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Zabba, FTW!

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Ha! I hope that sticks.

  • hammer

    I remember when mj 1st retired,pip was looking forward 2 the challenge of being the man. He even once said n the locker room “Mike I love you,but I’m glad ur gone.” What he meant was this was his chance 2 c what he could do on his own. Month just needs 2 stop sobbing n the fetal position,get up from his bed where he’s been all summer,take a shower,shave,eat something and play some dam ball. D-ZAM! Man the f**k up like denzel!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Do we even need a “What’s My Name?” for him now?

  • hammer

    I meant mo not month on my last post. My bad

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Ridiculously, Mo Williams in real life is even worse than the fake Jose Calderon in this spoof piece: http://foodcourtlunch.com/?p=2696

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Wasn’t Mo like a faux “The Man” with the Bucks before Lebron? And that was like a few years back. How is it that his existential well-being hinges on Lebron being around? This is actually really disturbing. I’m not even talking about the gheyness of it, I’m just thinking that Mo is a pretty weak ass player, for all his skills.

  • Greg

    Lebron monnyonle

  • hammer

    Mo reminds me of johnny fontane n the godfather when he’s crying and the don was mocking him “What am I gonna do? What am I gonna do? Rediculous!” Ha ha!

  • jdstorm

    Give Mo a Break. Imagine if one of your best friends, who you shared a lot of time with over the last year decided to take a 1 hr national TV special to tell you to go F*** yourself. then you realize that your team is now worse then the twolves and might have a 40 game drop. then you remember you are stuck there for the next 3 years

    After having spent several years being the man on a crappy team, you’ve had enough. and you are looking for a way out of cleveland. the only way out is to give up 26 million cash that you will never C again

    so 3 more years it is. id be eating ice cream two. its not like it matters anymore, if eddy curry can hold a roster spot mo should be ok with one or two tubs.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @hammer: YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Migs

    Somewhere out there, at a NYC car wash, Charles Oakley is shaking his head. What happened to NBA players in the last decade?! They’re getting paid huge amounts of money to play a game that they supposedly love, and they pull stunts like this? Pathetic.

  • abaci

    This is beyond pathetic

  • abaci

    So should we take that tweet about him being on his knees and begging be seen in a different light?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    yeah, i read this earlier in yahoo.. but 1 thing, this guy wants to play with the cavs. imagine that. he really wants to win with this organization. sadly though its unlikely. yeah he chokes we know that, but at least we know he’s giving everything he had. too sad, the guys who wants to play with this team are the ones who needs to get traded.. poor Mo.

  • Byebye

    If mo wouldve hit some jumpers against the magic Labron wouldve stayed the clown got lit up by rafer alston smdh

  • T-Money

    This is even worse than the whole Stevie Franchise/Cat Mobley thing. At least the weirdness was mutual in that situation. This is a one-way street: how you gon call running into somebody at the airport a “much needed conversation”? This looks like a dont-call-me-I’ll-call-you type ish.

  • Fat Lever

    Well it’s like he retires anyway when the playoffs come around, so what’s the big deal?

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    I’m glad you all feel so tough now, but we both know you’re not.

  • Robb

    I didn’t respect Mo before, but now now I despise him completely. What an absolute idiot. He’s the ultimate bandwagoner. Calling him pathetic would be an understatement.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Now we know why athletes give stock answers to every question…

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    @Allenp, =)

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Exactly AllenP. “why don’t they tell us how they really feel?” “B*tch!” “HoMo!”Sigh. Some of you probbly still wet the bed…

  • Toni Kukoc

    im not even gonna bother with Mo-Will.

    simple as “lol”

  • T-Money

    Allen: because he spoke his mind he can’t be clowned? Real talk doesn’t absolve you from being mocked. If I were his friend I’d tell him to get over it and strongly encourage him to stop talking like that about a guy that’s not thinking about you right now. That’s what really makes it sad: leaving Mo behind didn’t seem to factor at all in Bron’s decision. So why are you sweating him like that?

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Honestly dumb move for Mo to be so vocal and touchy-feely about this, jokes aside, since it sorta detracts from Dan Gilbert’s “we don’t need him, we have to move on” stance. Gilbert isn’t a fool, I feel like he did the right thing for a man in his position to try and galvanize his shattered fanbase by painting Lebron as a common enemy. This revelation by Mo kind of takes away from that.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    I feel a VH1 show in the making. A bromance version of The Ultimate Catch. Mo Williams puts a group of potential BF’s through a series of basketball related physical challanges in order to get some alone time with him so that they can show him why they’re the right bro for him.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    T-Money deserves an award. Now it’s not ok to mock a dude who sounds worse in print than the “Leave Britney Alone!” guy did in video? Please…..

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Truth: the faster Cleveland can get over Lebron, the better for the city and fanbase. It’s the same as a messy break up. Burning the shirts your ex left in your drawer might seem extreme, but if it helps, it helps. Writing a public, hysterical note on his/her facebook page might be kind of TMI, but if it helps you move on, then why not? Beyond the jokes, if Mo really wants to do what’s best for the Cavs right now, he does not say this. He puts on a brave face, even if it is just a front. Because that’s what the fans did and that’s what Gilbert did.

  • izzo

    Just making sure everyone realizes that these comments can be perceived as homosexual and that it is something to be mocked.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    I wish I knew how to quit you

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    All he said was that the team won’t be competitive and that robbed him of some of his passion for the game. He didn’t say that in a deluge of tears and he acknowledged earlier this summer that he’s seen Bron and understood and respected his decision. It wasn’t weak it was honest. He left Milwaukee and spurned Miami to be in Cleveland and contend. He missed the opportunity partially due to his own poor play and now he’s stuck on a laughingstock for the next three years. There is no silver lining in the situation from his perspective and it deserves some more contemplation than a bunch of faceless keyboard gangsters calling him a b*tch. If he said “eff it, I’m still gettin paid” he’d be mocked for that too. If he echoed Gilberts sentiments he’d be branded as bitter and crazy too. If he said he can’t wait to compete with Bron he’d be mocked cause we know he can’t win. And if he said nothing at all we’d wonder how he really felt. He can’t win.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Myles Brown said: “He can’t win”. Well, that might be part of the reason why he’s sitting by himself without his boy in Cleveland anymore. I also like how you pointed out that he spurned Miami to go to the greener pastures of Cleveland to contend, but now that he’s been spurned (with Miami being on the receiving end of the better part of the deal this time because Lebron wanted to go to his own greener pasture), we should all feel his pain? Wow.

  • T-Money

    Myles: Jamison said that he wished the best of luck to Bron and understood his decision but he had to keep it moving because the reality was that LBJ was gone. Was he clowned?

  • hammer

    @joel. U know what I’m talkin bout. Ha ha!

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    There are other choices besides coddling him or calling him a b*tch. But maybe not for a manly man like yourself. Whatever. Proceed….

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    BTW, it can be said that if Mo would have come to Miami and played with Dwyane and the roster they had before the 15 win season, they may have been similar to the Cavs in nature as being a strong regular season team and not much of a factor in playoff scenarios.

  • unrel

    hoMO Williams

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Cute how you circumvented my response to your statement and cited an example of the dude in question to make another lame morality comment.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    No T he wasn’t clowned. Because there was nothing to clown. Jamison may hve felt more than that and didn’t care to share or maybe as a veteran he’s just used to this stuff. Or maybe as a man he’s just stronger or more mature. But that doesn’t mean Mo is weak for being honest. There was an apparent kinship and chemistry on that team that will leave guys disappointed and somewhat hurt, especially considering the way things ended. Jamison wasn’t there that long and maybe his feelings didn’t run that deep.

  • JTaylor21

    What he should say is that it’s my fault that bron left and that if only I could have hit a shot against Orl and Bos, he would still be here. No show Mo williams DESERVES every ridicule he’s getting on here and then some.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Because your response wasn’t that substantive. I already acknowledged that hi poor play contributed to the situation and that there are other choices than weeping with him or mocking him. Meh.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And Myles, let’s be honest, why criticize the rest of the people here putting the insults out towards Mo and then you go and do the same thing in response to them? Is that a shortcoming of yours, that you feel the need to try and prod others (who aren’t speaking out against you or a family member of yours)to respond to your ill-conceived insults so that you can type “I told you so” and then banter away in another forum about “those jerko*fs over there”?

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    I hope you kept your receipt from the psychology dimestore.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Truth hurts, kid.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Mo Williams went from playing for rings to being a lottery team and watched a close friend depart in what to him was a shocker. He saw the coach and GM fired, and the team and city gutted of its heart and soul.
    If he hadn’t taken stock of his life at that point, he would have been a weirdo.
    Yes, I understand the easy jokes that are there to be made about his man crush on Lebron. Honestly, I would have made some of them had I now read all the other comments on the page. Y’all went too far, particularly with the insistence on questioning his manhood and sexuality over his admission that he was shaken to his core by getting destroyed by the Cavs and then seeing he professional life implode.
    What’s amazing to me is that all of you cats can do all this posturing and not feel a twinge of regret or hypocrisy. All of you are apparently alpha males, or emotionally stunted children who have either never faced real life situation, or are so concerned with displaying a macho front that you’re willing to deny your pasts to look cool.
    If you read the article, Mo said he preferred being a winner, to struggling on a losing team putting up points. He is well aware of his place in the NBA hierarchy and he knows what Lebron’s departure means to his season and his career.
    But, all y’all can talk about is how he’s soft and weak because he admitted that he was depressed after watching his entire professional life turned upside down.
    So, yeah, that’s why athletes give stock answers. Most of hte public is too stupid to handle anything else.

  • T-Money

    No one’s saying that he can’t be disappointed – or hurt, even – I bet that everyone in the Cavs organization was to some degree. But he’s not the only Cav to speak about the decision this summer. On top of my head Twan, Boobie, Andy V and AP were asked about it and none of them spewed this melodramatic ish. None of them “lost” on what you’re making to be a catch-22.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    should be destroyed by the Celtics.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    When Mo Williams was in Milwaukee, he re-signed with them even though they had no chance of winning anything and that was cool. Then he gets traded to CLE, rolls with a rockstar for 18mos and now that Bron is gone he knows that he’s going to have to pay to get into VIP and buy his own bottles of champagne instead of them being comped now. Honesty aside, saying that you thought about quitting the game all because a dude that you mistakenly thought was your friend, left, deserves no form of sympathy. Everybody (including those in the Cavs organization) knows they’re in trouble, but nobody’s crying about it eithe. This is where I give Dan Gilbert props because even though it’s a false front, he at least put forth the image and attitude from the day Bron made it official to leave that hey, we’re going to be OK here. That’s at least competitive, and comic sans or not, he certainly didn’t sound like he’d given up hope. This…I can’t honor this. I’m sorry. This is not what being a professional athlete and a competitior is all about. If you’re hurt, fine, but don’t show it. Not like this. I don’t care about your feelings being hurt, all I care about is that you show me that you’re still a competitor, regardless of how bleak things look. Especially when your nickname is “Mo Gotti”

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    sometimes being honest takes more guts than just standing up and pretending not hurt.

  • albert

    eboy, you’re really mean

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Once again, cosign on the homie AllenP.

  • Fat Lever

    He can win. He could have said that he was bummed Lebron chose what he chose, but that he’s up to the challenge of leading his team. When everything was all good, he was yukking it up, but the first sense of adversity he encounters, albeit, a pretty big set back, he almost took the most cowardly act available. This proves that he was never a leader, only a follower. And what do his comments reflect on his belief on his teammates? It essentially says that they’re basura. Leaders don’t do that.

  • The Philosopher

    This is the impact, friends.
    This is the influence.
    This is the effect.
    The King has guys wanting to quit basketball now, AND bear their souls to the world because he left them to dry.
    Does it get any… more real than that?
    On to the next one.
    LONG… LIVE… THE KING!!!

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    If Mo Williams’ identity and sense of self-worth was found in another dude, then God help us all…and the fans of the Cleveland Cavaliers.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I knew Philosopher HAD to show up for this.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Co-sign Bryan.

  • izzo

    His mistake wasn’t feeling those emotions, people are feel what they want(even men!!) to and that’s none of our business, it was expressing them in public. There was absolutely nothing to be gained from it, nor is there anything to be gained from any athlete answering anything other than ‘both teams played hard’. Such is the state of online sports discussion that anything even remotely like this will be mocked mercilessly, especially something like this- something revealing a vulnerability or anything that isn’t jockspeak- is a double edged sword.

    What’s there to be gained from expressing any kind of original thought to the media? Best case scenario, you’re treated like an oddity for a while until people get sick of you(Gilbert etc), almost every other permeatation is negative. If it’s not mocking, it’s some column-inch-to-fill writer making spurious claims that your opinion, and the fact you expressed it, is the embodiement of everything negative about blah blah.

    What’s funny is that people complain about players being robotic to the media, and turn around and make a gay joke when they say something against the grain.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    So he shouldn’t speak like that because other teammates didn’t..? Hey maybe its the other way around maybe its the others who were not man enough to say what they really feel. or they know they may get clowned for it. or maybe others don’t care, or maybe they can take it more than Mo. OR MAYBE, Mo Williams is just translating into words what he feels. no homo plain and simple.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Izzo
    You know what’s up, and not just because I agree with you.
    I’ve seen some of you same folks get all upset when an athlete you like says something that gets bashed by the majority of people, and you complain that people are making it so athletes don’t speak their minds. But, since you all don’t agree or understand what Williams said, that whole principle gets tossed out of the window so you can make funny gay jokes.
    The hypocrisy is staggering.
    Dude didn’t say his “love” for Lebron made him think about quitting. He said the abrupt and shocking change in his professional career, which included the firing of a coach he was very close to, made him rethink whether he wanted to continue hooping.
    Once again, this is an example of fan who would give their left testicle to play in the NBA not realizing that for most players THIS IS THEIR JOBS. It’s not the chance to live out some fantasy, it’s what they do for a living and what they work extremely hard to be able to continue to do.
    Many of y’all think that he should be happy and tough because he at least gets to play ball, but that’s like telling you that you should be chipper and happy when your company starts laying off coworkers because at least you still have a job.
    One of the biggest influences on how happy people are is their work environment. That doesn’t change if you make millions of dollars. In fact, the New York Time recently had a story that showed that according to research, once you get to a certain level of money, it doesn’t make you happier to earn more money, it just increases the level of stress in your personal life.
    But, again, considering these points would require a committment to avoiding “homo” jokes and tough talk about how you would never be a punk.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The reputation of this site is to sh*t-talk in situations like this….how can anyone that has been here in the past or present not know or expect this sort of reaction?

  • Aaron

    This guy is the biggest drama-queen in the League. I wish he would quit basketball immediately.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    It’s funny that Williams expressed the sentiment that he’d rather be playing for a winner, than putting up big numbers on a loser, and that just went over people’s head.
    I mean, he signed big deals, he got himself financially secure, and now he only wants to win. He doesn’t want to rebuild. He doesn’t want to have to learn a new system or kiss up to a new GM. He isn’t crazy abotu dealing with hateful fans who will be ridiculous when they encounter his friend and former teammate.
    He’d like a better work situation and the fact that he doesn’t have one made him consider quitting his job.
    See, I think the real problem is that so many of you all can’t contemplate quitting the NBA that his sentiments feel like a betrayal of all you hold dear. But, most of you dont’ even realize it.

  • JTaylor21

    Anybody that is defending this sucker is WEAK themselves. He has done nothing on the basketball court to warrant any sympathy or defense. If my best friend moved to another team or stopped playing basketball does that mean that I give up on something I love too, sh*t even if bron was his brother that doesn’t mean that he should just call it quits. You are your own MAN, Mo no one else decisions should affect your life. Looks like you’ve being in cryveland to long because you’re starting to inherit the city’s bit*hing ways.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Stop sharing your feelings and making sense you two HoMo b*tches.

  • unrel

    @Allenp.. i hear what you’re saying.. and i agree.. but let’s remember where this game started for a lot of us.. the streets.. the hood.. concrete.. imagine pick up games for cash.. and we’re locked in a heated battle.. then my best guy gets hurt.. and instead of finishing up the game and picking up the homie on the sideline.. i decide to take my cash and my ball and bounce and say.. ‘nah, my dude got hurt.. i ain’t going to compete anymore’.. you going to tell me.. ‘alright, unrel.. thanks for being honest’..

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Eboy
    I call shenanigans.
    Maybe that’s the new rep, but it’s not the one the site had when I first started showing up here, and a cat named White Hot Eboy popped up.
    The site was about a different perspective from the mainstream on the NBA. It was about discussing the game, and the world that shapes it. It was not about the Deadspin-model of seeing who could crack the best gay joke.
    But, things change, and I can live with that change. But, let’s not pretend that this is the way things have always been, or that just because things have always been a certain way that makes them right.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And yet, Lebron is known as a “f*g” for leaving Cleveland and a “bi*ch” for going to Miami….and these opinions were backed by the do-gooders that have been typing their nonsense for the last few minutes. Hypocrisy at it’s finest.

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out to Doug West.

  • http://alan.george@gmail.com Breeze

    @ allen p- your thread on how everyone is responding to this mo-will statement.. you know as a man its tough to express your emotions publically for that reason.how ever this guy in his dreeam situation is disrespecting the game…this is a business and your paid to play…where he went wrong is when cavs turned into a grown man high school league instead of paid professionals…if you take a close look at winning teams theres no dancers,harlem shakers, and gang signs on the bench…instead of following lebron around he should of been trying to get better adding needed elements to his game. his relentless aliance to this man is kind of weird but above all not professional..and to agree with some of the others in some ways not manly…you steal spirit when you rant in sorrow about someone who is currently against what you stand for ….what your jersey states…what dan did is keep hope even if its in despair of one of the best players in the league to leave your team…I mean with a little force and one more trade i think they still are at least 8 or 9 seed with that i think thier fe players way from being an average team…which will still put them better than the cavs have been before lebron…in this particular sitiation the phrase “man the f up” is needed..!

  • unrel

    ^btw.. i’m just speaking on people’s responses.. and how it really has nothing to do with our own self esteem/whatever/machismo/slash/black slash/etc..

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    And that’s the point eboy. People sh*t talk everything without thinking and it become the norm. I’d like to think that there’s sone more original takes on subjects like this

  • JTaylor21

    @AllenP, isn’t that the same sh*t people on this site were criticizing bron for doing when he left to miami for a chance to win a championship. Also you have to admit that it’s partially his fault that he’s in this bad situation, so he has to lay some of the blame on himself.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    I didn’t care for Brons decision and while I understood the rancor I was able to express myself like an adult without questioning his manhood or sexuality. I certainly didn’t applaud anyone else for doing so.

  • izzo

    unrel:Google ‘false equivilency’.

    Eboy: As much as you’re clutching at straws and throwing out meaningless buzzwords, you do realize that who says that about LeBron is the same neanderthaal who talks sh*t about Williams in this case?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Ok….so if you call out a dude and his manhood in a more “civil, well thought-out” way, that makes things better? I got ya, now.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    People who say that nobody else’s decision affect your life are stupid bastards who don’t deserve to breathe…
    See how easy it easy to lob around ridiculous insults?
    The idea that as a human being the actions of others has no impact on your feelings or actions is absurd. It’s so absurd I’m not even going to bother arguing the point anymore. I’m too old for stuff like this.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    I’m tired of cosigning AllenP. From now on, let’s assume I agree unless stated otherwise. If the comments section was always like this I never wouldve been here.

  • Yesse

    Is he serious? If that is so bad then try to go to Miami somehow.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Eboy
    That’s a cop out.
    I never called Lebron a f@g or b*tch. Ever.
    Myles had some choice words for him, but they were never that harsh.
    I always defend the rights of athletes to behave like human beings, not some caricature of manly men.
    Unrel
    Mo Williams isn’t playing pickup ball. He’s going to work everyday and making an insane personal committment to do so. So, the situations are not the same.
    Mo is saying he wanted to quit his job because of all the turmoil there.
    Why is that so hard to understand and relate too?
    Do you people actually work? Or did you fail to read the entire article and make the obvious connection?

  • The Philosopher

    I’ll tell the truth.
    I think it would behoove Mo Williams to contemplate how life could be worse for him.
    For many, very many, life is beyond worse.
    Remember the good times, be thankful.
    Live in the moment.
    Maybe he should take a trip to a couple of downtrodden places before camp opens.
    It may help his psyche. This is all easy for us to say, right?
    But, then one also shall consider his family quagmires he speaks of.
    Traumatic episodes can leave one more emotionally vulnerable as the next traumatic episode materializes in succession.
    When it rains, it pours, I guess.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    izzo: you’re wrong (about the Lebron thing, I don’t have the ability or the bandwith to show the thousands of comments that show the unbridled hate for the guy as well as the clever insults from others who try to claim clemency)but I understand what you’re saying in regards to the g*y stuff. I called him a b*ch (which is no better) but from where I’m from, that means you’re comparing the guy to a woman….unless you need to read the literal definition of “b*tch”.

  • JTaylor21

    What I’m saying is that you can’t let other people choices change you or influence your life. Are they married or family members, NO, so why should bron’s decisions cause Mo to want to stop what he’s being doing for so many years and worked so hard to get there. All those countless hours in the gym would go to waste just because he let another man’s choices affect him. People need to read in between the lines before they comment about someone else not deserving to breathe.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Breeze
    You’re understanding of the NBA and the dynamic is different from mine.
    It’s not war or some other form of combat. You’re not “repping” a city, you’re employed by a corporation.
    And, if my corporation made sweeping changes to my work environment that could adversly affect me, I would consider quitting. Period.
    That’s how it works for me. It’s a job, it’s not my life.

  • http://dez@nba.com dez

    Mo would be awesome in the WNBA.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    happy to see Izzo on here.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I agree with Philosopher, and I think it’s important to note that while Williams contemplated quitting, he did not quit.
    JT
    Did you miss the fact that I used my hyperbolic first sentence to make a point, not because I actually think people should stop breathing? That would be reading between the lines methinks.
    Mo Williams has a job.
    He thought about quitting his job because of changes at that job.
    He decided against it.
    That is the reality of this situation. The fact that so many of you cannot relate to this core reality is strange. The fact that you’re trying to justify using slurs and inane insults is also disturbing.
    Sadly, none of it is surprising.

  • izzo

    Eboy: I’m talking people who exclusively go to the extremes of ‘f*g’ and ‘homo’, not just those who didn’t like the decision and the way it was down and expressed it. There were legitimate reasons to dislike the LeBron thing. (I don’t agree with them, for the record).

    Also about the gay thing, I wasn’t talking about you.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Did I site you by name, Allen? I did not. I apologize if you felt I was referencing you.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    !”….and these opinions were backed by the do-gooders that have been typing their nonsense for the last few minutes. Hypocrisy at it’s finest.” there have only been three or so people ‘defending’ Mo in this thread and AllenP was perhaps the most loudspoken….

  • ClydeSays

    I’m no Mo fan, but I think everyone gets that when a such a franchise player leaves, it probably feels like having the rug pulled out from under you. This seems to point out how clueless the Cav organization was…

  • TheTruth

    ARE YOU SERIOUS? MO GROW THE F’ UP! ITS A GAME, JUST SHUT UP AND PLAY. I never liked mo and he always annoyed me, but he took it to a whole knew level with this. Somebody call the WHAMBULANCE!

  • JTaylor21

    @Allenp, I’m not comparing Pip to Mo but when MJ left to go play waffle ball did Pip cry and talk about thinking about quitting just because he’s teammate left, NO. I understand that it’s a job but I never thought about quitting my job just because my best friend quit and moved to another state. Why would I do that, it shows that you’re not enough of a person to stand on your own and fight your own battles. People are born alone and will die alone, you don’t get to take your best friend or brother with you when you die.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    I wish I knew how to quit you.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    so can we really change some norms in this comments section to avoid irrelevant comments? or would that just lessen our competitive nature?

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Apparently not.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    JTTaylor
    Did you read the actual article, not just the blurb posted here?
    I ask because Mo said it wasn’t just taht Lebron left, it was all of the changes in Cleveland and what those changes meant to his career. Check it out.
    It’s not “Lebron left and I was so crushed I couldn’t leave the house.”
    It was more “Lebron leaving changed everything. Coach Brown is gone, Danny Ferry is gone, and now we’re likely a lottery team without a chance to contend. The past two years we won 60 games. It’s touch to deal with that sort of change and I wondered if it might not be better to quit.”
    I’m paraphrasing, but that’s pretty much what he says in the column.

  • http://thacorner.net/forums Kevin

    B*tchassness to the ultimate degree

  • Ronald

    I like Allenp’s arguments and it’s hard to (imho) not to side with Mo when he’s being honest and truthful. And Allenp has the JTaylor21 “sweeping insulting comment” down to a tee! (see. 1:02pm)

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Jtaylor. Jordan left and the bulls are still contenders. defending champs in fact. Pip knew they’re still capable of doing it all again without MJ. Thats a fact. Mo’s are different. He’s not a defending champ and not gonna contend. That’s a fact. He knew that and frustrated about that. He never said that he wasnt gonna compete anymore, he said he almost didnt want to. Thats different.. Again he’s devastated of what happened and almost all of us will too if put in that situation. Why are we holding that against him? Because he publicly admit it? Really?

  • http://dsfjlkf.com Jukai

    I just want to state I am so fing busy and angry I can’t jump into this with Eboy, Myles, Izzo, Allenp, and T-Money all lashing out at each other. This is grade A entertainment people! These are the smartest people here!

  • ampd

    I think my favorite is how people like to pick and choose when to call basketball a ‘game’ and when to call it a ‘job.’ Whenever a player complains or shows emotion like Mo did or actually acts like a human being, they get yelled at to ‘shut up and do their job!’ But the second you add money into the equation, such as when a player feels they deserve a bigger contract for doing their ‘job’ well, it’s ‘you’re getting paid millions of dollars to play a game, shut up and stop complaining!’ God, ignorant hypocrites bother me sometimes…..

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    You gotta choose one; Lebron is a Megastar basketball player that changes the entire outlook of a franchise’s success rate and chances to win a championship based on his decisions because of his pinnacle Superstar status which compares to Kobe/Jordan/etc. or……………………… He’s a insignificant piece of a puzzle in an NBA team roster which should have no affect on teammates, staff, management or city from a fan based perspective. In which all that it has effected should get over immediately. You CANNOT regard Lebron as the center of some of you guy’s lives (when it comes to slam anyways) and the NBA universe and then spit on someone vastly closer in respect to how it has effected THEIR lives. Choose one please.

  • The Philosopher

    All of this because of…
    THE KING!
    My bad.

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    I can’t decide which is more funny: gay jokes or attempts to change the minds/behaviors of strangers in an online forum.
    Carry on, I’ll get some more popcorn.

  • http://dsfjlkf.com Jukai

    Okay, hold up—-
    Let’s not bring Pippen into this.
    Pippen whined and cried his way CONSTANTLY throughout the Bulls years, even when Jordan quit. He constantly threatened to either force a trade and retire. So let’s drop using Pippen to demasculate Mo.
    I feel Mo probably went a bit too far to say he thought about retiring, but PLEASE, LOOK AT IT THIS WAY:
    Mo has won the lotto. Mo has millions of millions of dollars. Mo does not have to work ever again in his life. What would you do if you had 30million + endorsement contracts? You’d GO OUT AND HAVE FUN!!!!!! You would not work another day in your life!!!!
    Mo Williams realizes he isn’t going to have fun. He was having the most fun of his life playing basketball with a superstar such as Lebron. Now he realizes it’s going to be much more like a job. He has the money. He HAS job security. Why would you stay at your job when you’re set for life if it’s going to make you upset?
    Just think about that. Really, think hard. Mo doesn’t have to work anymore. Why should he?

  • http://google c_cantrell

    seriously mo?

  • unrel

    @LA Huey.. if it’s buttered.. pass some over here.. or i should just go back to the Rondo post and clown on ‘witness’ for being ‘about as good as…’

  • The Philosopher

    For what it is worth, there was a time when I was mocked AND ridiculed for procuring facts about LeBron’s kingdom, and how his particular kingdom can have a profound effect on a man’s soul.
    Mo Williams is proving that this is true.
    What more proof need there be?
    Rings?
    It is beginning to look like The King does not even need a ring to cement his legacy.
    He has a grown man considering giving up his entire livelihood.
    The King has billionaires looking AND feeling like mere peasants.
    This is truly unprecedented.
    Again, we are… witness.
    People cry and wail in disgust, anger, betrayal, and self pity.
    Whom else is there who can extract that kind of reality out of a mortal being?
    Who else commands the respect, AND yearning for their presence and company?
    There is not any.
    LONG… LIVE… THE KING.

  • Jose

    If MO retired after that. i woulda felt like sh*t even more than i did that 2-3 minutes when lbj said “southbeach”(those 2-3 minutes of sympathy came after 10-15 minutes of OH MY GOSH WE DID IT!!! Though)

  • Robert Womack

    Wow, Lebron meant a lot to him as a teammate, I respect MO, he realizes that his team is going to really suck without Lebron. I kind of feel bad for dude(MO) but business is business, and Lebron has left the building(Oh my bad, I meant Cleveland).

  • The Philosopher

    As The King and his men plundered and celebrated, we all sit in unison, watching in wonderment AND
    awe and amazement as every GM in basketball was dreaming and wishing that The King would supply a desperate franchise, and a desperate owner, and desperate fans with the cavalry that is universally unmatched.
    World renowned skill and technique.
    Weaponry that has never before been seen.

  • http://www.runninglikwidworks.com Mr. RLW

    What the hell kinda foolishness is this?

    I view this ALMOST in the same vein that I did “the decision.” I’ve read over a few of the replies to this article. I agree to a degree with some and not so with others, but whatever. At the end of the day pro basketball players are BLESSED, to be paid to do something they love to do. Let’s start there. No one is saying as a man, you can’t show true emotion, on the contrary, more men should. But if a man were to tell me, “after ‘the decision’ I considered retiring from basketball,” for any reason… I’m making arrangements to try and move him off of my team. I don’t want any player on my team who is weak enough mentally to let the decision of one player, justify his desire to play. If I was a Cavs fan, I couldn’t root for him for the same reason. Now if his reasoning, was because Lebron, a freak of an athlete, young with so much going for him… if he were to be murdered senselessly… THEN, I could understand wanting to retire. But because the “prince” decided he wanted to go play with 2 other top 10 players in the league to manufacture a championship… man please. Get outta here with that.

    Lack of respect, table for one. Look at it this way, if any of you all are in a job that you really like. Say the top dog at your job leaves for whatever reason… are you really going to want to retire. Da’HELL?!?!? Just wow.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    The joke really wasn’t funny when it began, Philosopher…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I like the regular guy job example….well played Mr. RLW.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    RLW
    Just a question, but did you happen to read the actual article before you commented, or did you comment based on the blurb and the reactions of others?

  • The Philosopher

    I know it isn’t funny.
    It has not been funny for a long, long, time.
    But it is the truth.
    Sometimes the truth is not funny.

  • The Philosopher

    And, I’m bored.

  • JTaylor21

    @RLW, it’s KING not prince.

  • izzo

    I don’t buy the whole ‘BLESSED’ thing either. Sure it’s correct in that anyone who is paid for something they enjoy is fortunate. A lot of people seem to ignore, mainly blinded by the massive salaries, is that basketball players aren’t there by arbitrary chance; they didn’t win a raffle for the opportunity to become pro ballers. They’re the best at what they do, they’ve worked hard. It is an enviable position from the outside looking in, but I’m sure after you’ve reached the plateau of being in the NBA for a few years, merely thinking it’s great that you’re getting paid for this won’t help you develop. Just like anyone in a NORMAL JOB, you want to improve and get promoted. I’m sure that’s what’s happening to Mo Williams here. He had an opportunity where he saw that he could win a championship and for reasons of his own shortcoming and circumstances beyond his control, he’s now likely to be a forgotten footnote(or to appease Eboy, a skidmark) in NBA history, will be barely remembered if at all. He;s just a guy bummed out after seeing a great opportunity(or PROMOTION, to use the regular guy job example) slip away. To some here, that seems to make him less of a man or reveal some sort of mental weakness.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    So izzo, if your statement holds weight, if you worked a normal job and the guy above you leaves for another opportunity, couldn’t you in turn try and apply your skills to get that better spot. She he may be more skilled at that position through experience, whatever, but wouldn’t you at least relish the opportunity if it was available? Sure Mo isn’t on the same level playing surface as a player as Bron, but he was an All-Star with a reputation over the last couple of seasons that he could be a solid contributor, so why couldn’t he try to take the leadership reigns for the Cavs, become their focal point and try to keep the franchise moving forward instead of going into a quit mentality?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Perhaps he could avoid the skida…..er, footnote legacy you stated by doing something along those lines.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Most post never made it, and it was a long one, so I’ll sum it up
    a) Stop invoking Pippen to demasculate Mo. Pippen regularly threatened to quit on the team and demanded to be traded, he whined and cried his way throughout his time with the Bulls whenever he didn’t get his way.
    b) Mo Williams has 30 million dollars worth of contract money and a boatload of endorsement money. He doesn’t need to work anymore. He wants to have fun
    c) Lebron not being there means it’s far more of a job. If you had 40-something million dollars, would you keep working or would you want to just have fun?
    Think about it.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Alright, your 3:47 pm made me laugh, Philosopher

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I’ve been having more fun just reading the comments on this one than posting some myself.

  • izzo

    If he were delusional, yes. But a team with Mo Williams as a franchise player isn’t one that’s winning anything. He has also been showing signs of what you are saying, he’s been the most vocal Cavs player. He seemingly wants to stay and contribute, but he’s clearly a realist also.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    If you read the column, Mo recognizes that no everybody can be a star (he can’t) and what he prefers to do is play a role and win games.
    And, again, he didn’t quit.
    He considered quitting.
    There is a difference.

  • JTaylor21

    @Eboy, Mo knows that he doesn’t have what it takes to carry a team and be a leader. If he struggles when he’s the least of defenses worries what makes you think that he could do it being the MAIN focus. That’s why he thought about packing it up and quitting because he knew that the team and fans will be looking at him to become the leader and go to guy which is something he’ll never EVER be.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    There’s a difference of being a franchise player like you said, izzo or a leader,like I said. Funnily, everyone now says that Lebron is a franchise player with no leadership skills. Mo could be the opposite if he chose to, a strong leader without the ridiculous skill set. His words would make anyone think that wasn’t possible though.

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  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Why can’t he be a captain when he’s said he’s considered retiring when the previous captain left? That logic makes no sense.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Eboy that last comment made no sense. At all.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Just the last one?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    if Mo Williams did not figure out LeBron was leaving before the Boston Series was over then he is some kind of sooper moron

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK
    Apparently everybody in Cleveland is a moron if that’s the criteria. Not saying you’re wrong, just pointing it out.

  • tavoris

    Allenp-maybe you shoulda given the threshold in which making more money turns into a burden. for all the non-readers out there, it’ $75K/year. After that, “More Money, More Problems” applies.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    well yeah i pretty much feel like anyone who thought lebron would stay in cleveland is pretty dense. i actually think anyone that didn’t realize he was more then likely leaving when they added shaq and antawn (2 guys over 32) is either a little slow or a little ignorant.

  • http://brimartin13@gmail.com Brion

    Cosign Allenp’s 12:23 post. That’s good stuff.

  • JTaylor21

    Tavoris, you got it backwards it’s more problems more money.

  • NicktheQuick

    In retrospect, when Sam the intern was still around and Lang suddenly decided to quit SLAM and join up with Pete Vecsey at ESPN, would Sam the intern say that he was heart-broken and wanted to quit the job?

  • http://shoenut.blogspot.com Shoenut

    That is way too funny. By the way, There is a new Lebron James logo posted on my blog. Check it out and let me know what you guys think.

    shoenut.blogspot.com

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Does Eboy get called EBAY, because he sold out…?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Myles the mildly retarded trying to downtalk someone else? Meh. Dude advocates punching woman in the face. He wrote that. I’m certain the only punch the dude would ever throw would be towards a woman….so cancel Christmas when this type of guy tries to get rowdy.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    No Dacre…Lebron did, I’m only sniffing the fumes.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    You need more people…

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    If LeBron is ‘King James’. Does that make Mo Williams
    “the other boleyn girl”??????????????????

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Honestly, I dont…you cry out for attention. You bait for response. I respond, you got my attention. I had a puppy like you once. He was cute.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Hey Eboy – sorry btw that wasn’t a personal dig. I was trying to aim that comment at
    slam4life – the THIRD comment on here – In your defense I like to think that LeBron
    came to YOUR bandwagon… hyuck hyuck..

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Back to the point at hand… IS Mo actually going to leave
    the game? Because this thread has connections to
    LeBron James – THAT must be the reason there are so many hits
    and I always come late to the party (or really early even)
    flammin’ Aussie timezones.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    My keyboard is quivering, Clifford.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Only one thing to do now.. Mo must also take his talents to South Beach.

  • http://www.basketbrasil.com.br Rubens

    And if Mo said he loves the opportunity to be the man and lead the Cavs for a title you’d be making fun of that.
    ralley, comparing him to Pip? Sure Pip wanted the chance to lead the Bulls, one of the best all around players in the game living in the shadow of The Man.
    At least Mo knows he’s not a franchise player and knows his chances of winning a ring are over. he might’ve voiced his thoughts in a wrong way, but still, kudos for knowing your place in a team

  • Tyler

    This makes Mo sound very gay I’m not gonna retire cuz one man left the team.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    I’m all for intelligent debate, but when Eboy and Myles get catty with each other, there’s really nothing funnier

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Sure its not your clit wiggling? I would have put a smiley face, but the comment would have been in moderation until Thursday.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Tyler: Cause all gay men quit what they’re doing when the guys they’re crushing on leaves? What? You are a moron.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Oooooooooooo myles is a puppy. And eboy needs more people cuz someone is hitting women or some such thing

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    He amuses me. Today, at least.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Sure its not your cl@t wiggling?

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Three people tell him his rant made no sense and all he can do is resort to lies and violence. There’s rarely intelligent debate with him. Especially when he hasn’t had his Metamucil.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Who cares if Mo Williams was being honest. You don’t quit something because your friend left. He may “just want to win” but 5 years ago he just wanted to make money from Milwaukee. Soon enough he will sign a contract extension with the Lottery riddeled cavaliers and this whole diatribe will be a meaningless bookmark in his overrated career.

  • http://slamonline.com lakerslegends

    ok mo wouldnt leave 24 mill like that plus he is upset the 1 of the best players in the league left there team but Mo needs to face it he wasnt a good running mate with James he didnt show up that often enuff

  • bdub

    Eboy getting owned here.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Violence? On a message board? Wow, dude, you’ve got a hard on for me. I defy you to argue you pro-violence towards women, btw. I read it. Numerous others did too. You were called out for it and you tried to sweep it to the side under the guise of sarcasm. I didnt and still dont believe you. But again, I’m meaningless, so really…who cares?

  • str8 from samoa

    i wouldve done da same haha but just cant leave something u love doing ur whole life.. just cant.

  • str8 from samoa

    yea and heat is my team so im glad lebron went there haha

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    A players finally 100% honest and now getting bashed. I bet the bulls (except Scottie) felt the same with MJ left. It’s one thing to have the thoughts, it’s another to actually follow-through on them (that would be truly weak if Mo actually did retire). I understand that many of his dreams of winning a ring left with LeBron. He had some feelings about it, and now he’s moved on and ready to play. Not much more to say.

  • http://myspace.com/emarosa Bryan

    I can’t believe I missed this… Good read everyone. When I first heard about this through twitter one liners I thought the same insulting things a lot of people said here, but now I kinda get it. If my best friend I have at my job, who helps me and I help everyday thus making both of our jobs easier and more enjoyable, transferred to Atlanta and didn’t tell me I’d be pretty upset. I mean not crying upset, but I might think about quitting my job for sure. None of us know the conversations or relationship between Lebron and Mo, he probably felt betrayed and hurt. Then the people who brought him in and put him a role he could succeed in are dismissed, what makes him think he’s not next? Who would want to live that way? His career was put at a crossroads by other people, he decided to make it his terms. I can get with that.

  • http://myspace.com/emarosa Bryan

    I for one am glad to see someone be real in sports. I also agree that the comments section didn’t used to be like this. It’s populated by a lot of ridiculous people now. I miss the good days of the first year Post Up. Izzo, Eboy, Tad, Allenp, Brad Long, even Bodie. I dunno it’s not the same anymore , too much hostility and pretentiousness now.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Yes, I advocated beating women. And I wasn’t kidding. At all. I was also the second shooter on the grassy knoll, I killed Nicole Simpson and I put that coke in Paris Hiltons purse. I said if I were a woman I’d rather get punched than get herpes. Obviously it was tongue in cheek because I wouldn’t want either. The post is still there if you really feel the need to quote it. But I wouldn’t want you to waste any more time when you’re already missing the Early Bird Special at Dennys. Take a nap, old man.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    If his dreams were to win a ring with LeBron then he would accepted a lower yearly salary. 11 million a season for a “decent” not even very far above average starting PG is a huge handicap for any team trying to win a title. Especially in cleveland where NOBODY wants to play a professional sport. Once again, even if he was “honest” that he almost quit his career because his friend left, it doesn’t prove anything except how self abosrbed and possibly downright stupid he is for not figuring things out sooner. Seriously how in heII can you be suprised that the best player in the league (under 30) doesn’t want to play for the oldest team without any real playoff success.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Denny’s have early bird pricing??? I gotta get back State side…

  • The Lord of Nsam (formerly known as Fresh Prince)

    Last june when Boston lost 2 LA in a devastating game 7, I was completely devastated, I almost cried, couldn’t go 2 sleep (it was 4a.m here). 4 the entire week, month, I was so sad I could barely eat, I felt so sad that KG, PP and RayRay missed that opportunity 2 cement their lagacies as great Celtics, even now I can’t get myself 2 watch that game again because it hurts. And I don’t even have the slighty connexion 2 Boston, the States, KG, PP or RayRay (apart from my TV). So yeah Mo Williams, you weak, HoMo, looser enculedetamere!

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Wow, this conversation is STILL going on? I can’t even remember where I left off.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Those of y’all going on about the good ol’ days of SlamOnline need to peep this website (after moderator approval, of course) http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

  • The Philosopher

    I’m really wondering if Jukai has a comb-over.

  • The Philosopher

    Glad to see Tarzan Cooper.
    Still wondering if he’s totalscrotalimplosion.

  • Blackphantom

    Damn Mo, that’s very sad on your part

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    The Philosopher: I have such a Jew Fro, it’s not even funny bro.
    NBK, you still don’t get it. Mo is set for life. He doesn’t have to play sports. He can retire whenever he wants. If you have 40 million dollars, and your work no longer becomes fun, are you going to keep working?

  • The Philosopher

    A Jew Fro, huh?
    Good sh1t.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Like that guy off ‘BEERFEST’ Jukai?

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    What I really want to know, and this is something that
    troubles each and every man, women and child concerned
    about the future of the planet is this; Katty Perry is
    on Sesame Street?!?! No wonder the streets are filled
    with sex and crimes.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Jukai I get it. I understand completely his thought process. I don’t however understand throwing yourself a pity party, a national one at that. But really how does he know it’s not fun? And why didn’t he quit when he signed with milwaukee if winning Is what matters he had no shot He’s is either stupid or lying, and everyone feeling sympathy for him is ridiculous. You honestly believe he thought lebron was staying and went through a bout of depression when he found out he wasn’t?

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Not stupid I’m sorry thats too far. He’s is either oblivious like a child* or lying is more along the lines of what I meant. Basically his comments for his entire career have contradicted his actions. So no I don’t think he almost left his remaining contract on the table. No I don’t feel bad for him. And no I don’t believe he was depressed or distraught or whatever from lebron leaving. He IMO sees the inevitable and has already given himself a perfect excuse for the terrible season Cleveland is about to have. He now cannot be blamed for anything this year (like losing 50+ games) he’s upset lebron left.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    nbk doesnt get it. The contract he had is from Milwaukee. He was traded. And people HE DIDNT QUIT. he said he ALMOST did. what’s so hard about understanding that?

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    HoMo Williams…hahahahahaha..Zabba FTW!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    J if I didn’t understand his contract why would I repeatedly say why did Williams sign with MILWAUKEE if he cared about winning? And I didn’t say he quit. The fact that nothing changed is why this is stupid. There was no need for this. Do you tell everyone you know about the last time you were upset? The last time you thought about quitting your job did you tell your boss? How about your friends family and total strangers?

  • Rusty

    WTF Mo, Man up you b*tch.

  • Rusty

    Zabba wins

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Nbk. they were a rising team in milwaukee. him, redd, bogut, charlie v. they have a legit chance of being one of the top teams in the east before Redd’s injury. i honestly thinks he had a chance of contending there in the future. then Redd got injured. sessions emerged. He got traded. Then he realized he had a legit chance of contending in cleveland, and they did. He get used to it so that may changed his frame of mind. Fast forward to now.

  • celtics fan

    im waiting for mo to become the star and lead the CAvs to championships

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Call me a sucker, but I like Eboy, Myles and Mo Williams.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Nbk. and why are we holding it against him just because he stated his feelings on national media? So what he did was a p**sy move because you yourself won’t do that if you were put in the same position? Don’t punish him by your standards.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Lol Michael redd and Charlie v mo Williams and Andrew Bogut contends for what? Andrew Bogut is the only top player in that lineup. Michael Redd was a scoring machine granted. He also couldn’t stop my grandma from blowing past him like a bicycle on the freeway. That’s before he blew up his knee. Can u tell me how Charlie v played last season? How bout Ramon Sessions?

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    It’s whatever you want to call it because it’s unnecessary. Unless he’s planning on using it as an excuse in the future. Then it’s what you wanna call it because he’s using an excuse instead of just man ing up. The Cleveland supporting cast has been overrated since 07 and it supposedly was “much improved” since then. And the fact that they actually suck will probably be a huge side story throughout the season. And all that negative press (mo is not an idiot he knows it’s coming) can now be deflected to the fact that he has “lost a lot of love for the game” and is/was so upset about Lebron leaving.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    I said they have a potential of being a top playoff team in the east. That’s far from being a title contender. Bogut is realizing his game. Redd is a very good player, charlie v is a good player (note: yesterday is different than today) before he sucked. They have a very good future. But it doesnt pan out. But you cant say that they will go nowhere back then. You can say now because we already saw what happened to them. Also stop your corny grandmama line.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I would have 100% at the time said Milwaukee as built has no shot whatsoever at contending for anything. And guess what? The milwaukee front office would agree with that sentiment. Hence them rebuilding.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    you could claim that’s what you believe back then. whatever. but whether they made it or not, back in those times, they have a real potential to be a very good playoff team.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    No they didn’t. What purpose is their to lie? especially on a slam message board? I am honest about my opinion, i’m not worried about admitting when i’m wrong or telling the truth. For instance I thought Cleveland had a legitimate chance of getting to the finals against LA after they got Antawn Jamison. I also said at the time they would have been better off going after Troy Murphy but too late. And the reason at the time, now, and in the future I will say a team like that 2007 Milwaukee squad, Horrible defensive teams never have a shot at anything in the playoffs. Please stop being Like the typical average basketball fan judging a teams chances at success purely by a teams offensive talent.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    2007 milwaukee squad….**has no chance at contending**

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    GO SEE CHRIS DOUGLAS ROBERTS TWITTER FEED…LOL

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I gotchu blazing&sportinglisbon – @cdouglasroberts Yo, Mo Williams is like 27 & considered RETIRING!! Not due to injuries, due to hurt feelings! Ahahahahahahahahaahahhahahaahahahahaahahahahaa

  • http://www.manutd.com t-money

    wow, this is still going on? you know what mo’s close friends are telling him right now? “man up and stop talking like a punk, you’re not on dude’s radar so why don’t you keep moving?” this is also about pride. he obviously thought there was more to their relationship than basketball and bron obviously thought otherwise since they bumped into eachother randomly more than a month after the decision. bron had time for cp3, had time for melo’s wedding, had time to recruit big Z, had time to try to get d-fish, had time for GQ… but no time to call mo. dawg. keep. it. moving. this is not a good look. and nba guys are starting to clown you.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign Philosopher about TSI really being Tarzan. Just like T-Money is Z! lol. Sup T-Money.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    i’m not Nbk, i’m just sayin that they’re in the right path to being a very good playoff team. they got good starting blocks back then and who knows which player they couldve added to boost defense and overall improvement? you get it right that they didnt pan out well, but you could be so wrong if they did. Just like what you thought of cleveland, you got it wrong. Its just always either way, win or not.

  • http://Slam Ruach Tang

    thats kinda funny Mo u gettin payed 26 mill to do your thang man at least you had your chance to do something wit Bron but didn’t work so sorry man.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Do you not understand the dynamic of playing in a city like Milwaukee? No player wants to live in Wisconsin (no star player especially). Plus the lower attendance and times on national television drastically deplete their revenue stream. Means you don’t have as much money if any to take chances with. And that’s not assuming (given we are back in 2007) that giving Michael redd a 13 million dollar a year contract wasn’t a horrid decision

  • hammer

    @ jukai 2:29. Pip was mistreated and dissed by the bulls org so of course he was frusturated. But what u fail 2 point out was pip,tho he did pout,he produced like a mofo. Despite his frusturations,he was the actual mvp that yr. Mo freakin williams? The season hasn’t even started and @ the 1st sign of adversity,he ‘scurred.’ Talkin bout quitin the gm. And don’t go there w/pip and the 1.8. Yes,pip did f**k up on that 1,but @ the same time u could c it from his pov. I’m not sayin I condone what he did cuz I don’t. Point is pip stuck w/bulls thru thick and thin. Regardless of how underpaid he was or how many times they wanted 2 trade him. Mo should do the same. Stick w/cavs thru the thick and the thin. Thru the ups and the downs. Not just when its all good,fun and gms. That’s f****n life!

  • mytiman

    Cavs should be thankful that thorns have roses. This is a chance for Mo Williams to be a star, for Jamison to prove he’s more than a fluke, for Hickson to be an Amar’e type player.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Meh, NBK vs. J < Eboy vs. Myles.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Nbk. Wow you bringing up a point that because Milwaukee suck as a city and finances are low, success would be dreaming of the moon for them? stop posting.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Hammer: What you said made absolutely no sense. Pippen threatened to leave but stuck through it, so you’re giving Pippen credit. Mo Williams threatened to retire BUT STUCK THROUGH IT and you’re not giving Mo Williams any credit? I know you really, really like Pippen, and a lot of people do. Pippen is the perfect rags-to-riches player, a guy everyone can appreciate. Doing the dirty work to become a mega star. But like, Pippen whined a lot, threatened to force a trade at the least three times in his career, and he even had Rodman commenting on the last one.
    Mo Williams had done it once and decided to stick through with it.
    I don’t get how you dismiss Pippen and not Mo WIlliams.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Lol, @ Enigmatic.. Eboy vs. Myles is untouchable.. Their’s are beyond basketball.. I’m not in that level of versus with Nbk..haha.

  • http://www.threadsandkicks.com.au Eduardo

    Can understand why he felt that way as everyone blamed the supporting cast for not being good enough. So to be said that you’re not good enough to win a championship from everybody and pretty much LeBron by saying with choosing to leave must have hit hard, would hit anyone hard really as they did have a good team.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Just check how many small market teams have won a title in NBA history…and then check how many were built around offense….Milwaukee is one of them, and don’t try comparing the two. I am not saying its impossible, well actually if your trying to do it with that team from 2007 it is….but it sure as he!! is a stacked deck. And if Mo Williams cared about winning more then money don’t you think he would have taken a little less money from Miami in 2007 instead of the ludicrous contract he signed for the paltry Bucks.

  • hammer

    If u look @ my post @ 10:13 (seems like 4ever right?)I mentioned pip was looking forward 2 mj leaving. He wanted 2 know what he could do on his own. And after winning 3 rings w/mj,pip still wanted 2 b the man. Mo hasn’t won anything. U would think he would have n some way relished the fact that this is his team 2 run now u know? But stead he is or was considering retiring. Pip relished it from the jump while mo didn’t. That’s the diff between mo and pip

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @J – Yeah, no doubt. I can’t talk trash like them on here yet either!

  • http://yahoo.com bkbishop

    Mo is a bama..blame yourself for him leaving and your in-consistency in the postseason…why would he torture himself and remain around yall losers all day?…he did all he could with what he had..yall weren’t enough and management didn’t do enough to get him sufficient help..like he would have left if yall were a contender…other teams was making moves this summer while cleveland did nothing but put up “this is your home” posters..cleveland went from the ECF to the semis..that’s moving backwards and there was no benefit in sight if he would remained with cleveland…bottom line!

    PS…this is truly the softest sports related story I have ever read

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    milwaukee offered more. and imho he believed they’re going to be a very good team in the future so.. And lets not forget that he’s very loyal too. Don’t misinterpret me, i only said that they have a very good building blocks to start. They are in the right path though with a lot of holes. It didnt pan out. They werent able to continue that due to a lot of things.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    also my last comment applies to cleveland. and proof that lebron cares more about winning then his friend. i would have done the same thing to my mom.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Milwuakee offered more money..PERIOD – don’t say he believed he was getting into a winning situation. his loyalty is without question but its blind loyalty. Someday he and maybe you will realize that basketball is about winning more then it is about your friends and struggling through being unhappy even if it means you make 10% more money. As BK said there was no benefit in sight in staying with cleveland for lebron (because money is not whats most important). But to Mo money is whats most important so he stayed in milwaukee. I mean damn Miami tried hard to get him, Pat Riley was very public about it, and they won a TITLE that upcoming season. Its a joke that your even defending what he said, his peers don’t even respect him. He openly contemplated just giving up…..would you say that to your 8 year old kid who contemplated quitting the sport they loved because their best friend when to a new team with cooler jerseys and better players?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Nbk. Milwaukee offered more, and imho he believed that they have a good future there so.. lets not forget he’s very loyal too. So.. Also don’t mis interpret me, all i said is that they have a good building blocks, a good start. They have a lot of holes. It didnt pan out.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    won a title that previous* season. sorry i was blindly typing

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    I’m in no professional league, but don’t question my passion for the game winning and all.. What would i tell my kid? Say what he feels, but don’t quit. Stand up for what you feel even if it is sometimes against the flow. Didnt Mo did exactly the same?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    And who am i (or we) to judge him overall based on this thing? He might have done better things in life than we did, so to typecast him by just one manner is unfair. I bet he dealt things worst in his life than us. And if he played poor next season, would we conclude that is because he doesnt have the heart or he’s weak? Maybe lets try to think he doesnt have the talent and skill, rather than question his desire.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Hammer: Alright, decent enough (not sure Pippen WANTED Jordan to retire but he wasn’t angry at Jordan cause of it). But saying Mo is less of a man is… odd. Pippen whined way more than Mo. It was just about things like role and money and oddball things. I don’t get why Pippen is still considered manlier.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Mo hasnt done anything. He threw himself a national pity party. He didn’t “stand up” for anything. He just said he didn’t understand lol that’s not taking a stand that’s called playing dumb. He knows damn well LeBron left to win – and the realization that he is not as good as he thought hit him. Which is probably the more realistic reason he was so upset. And if he is putting that crap information out there with no necessary purpose he either wants pity or attention. Either way he therefore is open to judgement. Nobody said he’s a bad person – just a sissy

  • http://www.michaelcho.com M Cho

    250 posts for this article??? really???

  • http://Slamonline.com Negetivekreep

    Jukai: Pip may have whined more Than Mo, and granted, he spent allot more games learning at the foot of (his master) BUT when it came time to put up or shut up, he showed he’d learned a thing or two about how to LEAD. And he WANTED to lead (take big shots) and Sometimes whined about that too! Now, Mo is not in Pips leauge as a player, but he like Pip was under the direct tutelage of the most dominant player as well as best team leader in the NBA. Faced with Jordans departure PIp rose up, you can’t (at least by his own comments) say the same thing for Mo. I can understand Mo feeling that way for a day or 2 Maybe a week after the decision. But contemplating retirement? Is that what he Learned from LeBron? Damn shame if u ask me. That man (LBJ) lead by example, and made those around him better none more so than Mo Playing with LeBron made me an allstar Williams. Give a man a fish; and you have fed him for a day. Teach a man to fish; and you can sell him fishing equipment for the rest of his life.

  • hammer

    I’m not saying pip or mo is manlier that the other. That’s the perspective of sum of the commentators here. All I’m sayin is pip was ready 2,willing or not,assume the throne left by mj. Mo’s 1st knee jerk reaction was 2 contemplate retirement

  • Baguma

    quit coz one guy left? please!!!

  • http://Slamonline.com Negetivekreep

    Quitting is quitting. I know I’m not the only one that resents the perception that us common folk are too ignorant to understand that the real reason we don’t like Mo’s whining is because the thought of quitting an NBA career is waay too over our heads. F that! As far as applauding Mo for being honest…. Nope. I think those of us who don’t respect Mo’s comments, DO respect real talk. Like Thousands who have lost thier careers, homes, savings/ retirements. Do to the present economy, or lack of. I used to make $60 G’s as an outside sales rep + paid gas/ car & full bennies… Until my industry took a dive. Now I clean carpet. Make 1/3 rd of that with zero extras or bennies and I hate what I do. But I gladdly do it, rather than collect unemployment ( nothing against anyone that needs it) to not only provide for my family, but to give my son the best example I can give for when times get tuff. That’s REAL talk. Using sexist slurs is immature and flat out Wack, but like Eboy said already, isn’t calling guys that dissagree with you “bed wetters” “all of you are emotionaly stunted children” the same thing? And lastly please don’t preach to us about “facing real life situations” and how stressfull co-workers losing jobs ( rather than ones self) can be… Or what a study from he NY times has too say about having too much money. Perhaps by making comments such as those, you reveal who is actually out of touch with real life situations. Look, I’m not bashing Mo or calling him names or none a’ that, but don’t expect people to empathize with or pat the guy on the back for speaking like a quitter.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Hammer: How do you know Pip’s first reaction was to ask to get the f out of there? For chrissakes, this was a guy who said he was gonna retire mid-sixth championship run cause he was getting some critisism for his play. You can’t read minds. Mo’s mistake was being honest.

  • Toni Kukoc

    good topic! (how do you spell “carkazm”?)

    Eboy i wow you, no homo!

  • flash

    they aint even that tight. whats this fool talking about, lebron barely knew him thats why he didnt give a f**k!

  • starky larky

    wow. a grown man acting like this after another grown man leaves a basketball team which essentially also indicates their daily interaction. yep. weird.

  • boy_wonder

    we’re talkiang about a guy that has a big tattoo on his chest that said’s “Quit?”

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  • hammer

    @ jukai. Well…I think and I’m pretty sure every1 knew @ the time pip said that he was gonna retire that it was all bs. There was no way n hell that pip was gonna do that,especially on the last title run. So u can discount that. And bout pip wanting the f out of chi? Yeah. Ur right. I can c him contemplating getting out of chi thru a trade when mj left

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Negative
    Quitting is quitting, okay.
    Who quit?
    Is retiring quitting?
    Mo Williams has enough money to live the rest of his life in comfort and he doesn’t have to put up with the stress and hardship of scrabbling on a lottery team.
    How is his situation comparable to you losing your job and having to work as a carpet cleaner?
    You are exactly what I’m talking about. For one, you have blamed Mo Williams for quitting simply because he contemplated leaving his job due to changes at work. He didn’t actually quit, but apparently that doesn’t matter since he thought about it. Second, you have decided to compare Mo Williams retiring as a millionaire basketball player to you having to continue to work to support yourself and your family after losing your job.
    The situations don’t compare.
    What I’ll teach my two sons is that there is nothing wrong with contemplating leaving a job if you feel like it’s not worth your time to be there, and your responsibilites to your family or secure. Nothing wrong whatsoever. All of you with this misguided mantra that Mo Williams is a sucker for thinking about leaving his job because the company is taking a nosedive, his favorite supervisor left and his best friend decided to do something else is hilarious to me.
    I called people what I called them because that’s what their comments revealed them as. The insistence that this was about “manning up” is so ridiculous. The belief that Williams lacks drive is absurd.
    We’re talking about a former second round draft pick who left college after two years and barely made the Bucks roster. Then, after a trade, played himself into a monster contract by shocking the entire league. Do you all honestly think Williams is just a “quitter”? Think about he idiocy of that idea given where he is in life, and where he started.
    What Williams sounds like is an athlete who has now learned that whenever you are asked personal questions you should never answer them truthfully and never reveal any aspect of your thought process to the masses unless it aligns with the accepted stereotypes about athletes and sports. Which is the first comment I made on this thread. Just about ever comment that disagreed with me, accept maybe NBK, has proven that point.

  • http://alan.george@gmail.com Breeze

    @allen p your totally right our views on this is diffrent i think yours may be
    skewed..as i think the NBA IS A DREAM JOB…i know well
    qualified players who havent made it to that hardwood
    he has a great opportunity…he can be a leader believe in himself
    lebron is far from his friend he just another Teammate
    and his notion on quitting and not quitting sounds even softer
    now let me PLAY J-HICKS now im in practice like play with you
    for what you have no belief in us.. as a team honestly thier not
    lottery team just yet they might not be in the playoffs but thier just
    a player away for atleast contesting like the grizzles ..maybe
    “man up” is a little insensitive but this is a job cry on the side
    go hard or go home this is the motto…if you gonna quit then leave
    if not save it for your diary..and when lebron comes back to town
    LIGHT THE HEAT THE HELL UPPPP!….

  • http://nba.com/bulls The Babe

    “I mean not having LeBrons dick in my mouth pre game was almost too much to bare!”

    What a schoolboy b*tch!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Breeze
    My first comment was that he would have been better served feeding the public a standard cliche.
    I stand by it.

  • http://Slamonline.com Negetivekreep

    Allenp: Nope. Wrong again, you’re penchant of boxing people together and stereotyping them (“you’re exactly what I’m talking about”) is elietist and misguided. The truth is: beyond my ” opinion” you don’t know me from a can of paint, and vice versa. So don’t pretend to have the viral ability to clump the mindset/ intelect or understanding of a group of commenters together ” like pigeons” it’s offensive, and seems to be beneath you from what ive read. Now, you want to place Mo’s comments in the best light possible, give him the benefit of the doubt that this was as much about the GM and coach leaving ( even though everyone and thier mamma agrees B Scott is an upgrade over Mr Potatoe head, And CLEARLY LeBron is NOT his BEST FRIEND…He’ll that’s fine with me, to each his own. And what you decide to teach your kids is 100%biz and as a father I can respect that. I Gave my own experience to demonstrate why I feel the way I do, if Thats lost on you…oh well. I can totally understand leaving a job if you’re not satisfied, being treated poorly, or have a better opportunity and i’d teach my kid the same thing as well. But that’s not what were talking about. Mo didn’t say he wanted a trade to another franchise not taking a dive, that had supervisors he’d get along with! He said he contemplated QUITTING because 1 guy left the company. Don’t get it twisted. Those comments were inspired 100% by LBJ period. Its not really as Complicated as you’d like to think. And Mo’s innitial comments since the decision to now have all made that clear. The man is hung up on LeBron. So, does that call into question HIS passion? Heart? And drive? regaurdless of what he’s done in the past? Uh, yep. Is it inconceavable to quit playing pro ball? Nope. Do I respect his reason for contemplating doing so? He’ll no.

  • chase

    are you serious? what a panzee. grow up, Lebron is not a god.

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  • str8 from samoa

    nbk and jukai shuddup yall!haha talk too much ha!

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