Saturday, January 29th, 2011 at 7:51 pm  |  73 responses

Kobe Bryant: Moving On Up

After passing Olajuwon, Bryant is now eighth all-time in points scored.

Eighteen months ago, we declared Kobe Bryant the 12th greatest player of all-time. While we’re currently reassessing that number (you’ll know what we’re talking about in the not-too-distant future), Bryant’s busy climbing the career scoring list. As of Friday night, he’s now recorded the eight most points all-time. ESPN LA has a full write-up:

Bryant’s breakaway dunk with 3:29 remaining in the first quarter gave him 13 points for the game, passing Olajuwon’s 26,946 career points for eighth place on the NBA’s all-time scoring list.

Bryant finished the game with 38 points on 13-of-27 shooting, but the Kings won 100-95 despite coming into the game with a 4-16 road record.

“It’s obviously a huge honor,” Bryant, a 15-year veteran, said after Friday’s loss. “I’ve been playing for a while and these milestones mean a lot.”

Bryant is one of just three guards in the all-time top 10 along with Michael Jordan (third; 32,292) and Oscar Robertson (10th; 26,710).

“Typically big men have been known to kind of dominate the ball and the bigs that are on that list are obviously the all-time greats,” Bryant said. “I guess there’s a couple little guys that are feisty.”

The next players in Bryant’s path are Elvin Hayes at No. 7 (27,313), Moses Malone at No. 6 (27,409) and former teammate Shaquille O’Neal at No. 5.

Now in his 15th season and clearly no longer a pup, enjoy KB24 while you still can.

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  • http://ballislife.com Stephon

    My main man KB! If he stays healthy he can pass ABdul-Jabars record.

  • http://nba.com gp23

    I think he will get to 4th all time. And then he will retire.

  • http://360special.blogspot.com/ dev0

    If Kobe can average 25 points per game for the next 457 games (5 1/2 seasons), he can pass Kareem… if Kobe’s still doing this at 38 he’s officially not human

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    dev0 they don’t count playoff totals?

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    lol @gp23….I figure thats the idea

  • http://www.pablasso.com pablasso

    @The Black Rick Kamla: no


    i reckon he would’ve wanted the win against the kings more though.

  • Josh

    Mamba is a bad man. His accomplishments are all very well deserved.

  • S_kemp

    I’d say his two remaining goals are to get another ring and to pass shaq on the all time scoring list. I dont think he can do either but it’ll be fun to watch him try…

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Kobe has been top 10 all time for a while now, so Slam was off anyway eighteen months ago. Kobe is top 5 to me and will be behind only one person in the end, MJ.

  • 2KInsider

    It is amazing how much Kobe has accomplished without ever being considered the #1 player during any season he has played. Even his MV season, many said LeBron and CP3 were better.

  • JTaylor21

    Still not better than Hakeem. Career and talent wise.

  • whoooo!

    i know Kobe’s talent is top 5 all-time, but i still dunno about his generation. most supreme talent of his generation, for sure. but Shaq was the most dominant, and transformed the game in its own right, and was 14x all-nba. and then TD… all-nba and all-defense every single year since he came into the league (13x), and 50 wins last year was the LOWEST of his career. are all 3 of them top-10 all time?

  • KB8toSG8

    @JTaylor21……… Yeah. Please teach me through your infinite wisdom how Kobe is not better than Hakeem talent wise ( When Kobe can play on both the perimeter and the post )AND career wise ( 2 rings vs 5 rings )

  • burnt_chicken

    @KB8toSG8: you only need to watch one playoff series against David Robinson to know why.

  • Pugz

    Mamba will finish fourth on all time scoring just to best shaq and will retire with 7 rings, one more than MJ, and retire as the second best to ever play the game. TWO FOUR.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jay

    What pisses me off the most is the league black balled AI so he wouldn’t make these lists if AI were still in the league he would be chasing so many scoring milestones like Kobe he would probably be around 9-11th by now. Sucks to see him get black balled.

  • http://www.walshsportsblog.com Kevin

    AI essentially blackballed himself by not accepting that his skills had declined. Teams only put up with his selfish nature when he was scoring in bunches over the years.

  • EJ

    Everybody knows Kobe is better than Hakeem. I’m a big Hakeem and Kobe fan, Kobe is better. He’s the second most complete player of ll time. The thing that separates him and MJ the most, is shot selection. His skill set is nearly the same, he just takes too much bad shots, and doesn’t pass enough at times.

  • Joe

    Top 5 all time.

  • Martey

    @EJ Scottie was a more “complete” player than Jordan. Jordan was a better scorer and had more “drive” as people like to say, which is an intangible. Anyways most people in this section are basically children of the Nike Nineties so without Jordan, Kobe and now Lebron, there is no NBA.

  • http://bassbesteck.wordpress.com Bassbesteck

    Scottie Pippen >> Kobe

    yeah I said it…

  • KB8toSG8


    Your point being???

    Still doesn’t change my view. You’re talking about his post game. I’m talking about the all-round game.


    Who woulda thought he’d reach this point after his airball fiasco n utah. Congrats to KB8!

  • Joe

    Bassbesteck = Scottie Pippen.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Hammer, Kobe probably did.

  • JTaylor21

    Second most complete player my a**. People nowadays are prisoners of the moment. You do know that Hakeem was the greatest two-way player of all-time which means he was as great on the offensive end as he was on the defensive end. Kobe can’t be that since he hasn’t played defense since 2004. The Dream all day long.

  • markymark

    co-sign jay. bring back the answer!

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Jt, why don’t you like Kobe?

  • The Charles

    For me Hakeem will always be my number one Center (Sorry Shaq, Wilt, Bill). In his FIRST championship you can say that he single handedly carried the team to the top. You can’t say that about Wilt, Bill, Shaq and even Kobe. His second banana during that time is probably Kenny Smith, Vernon Maxwell maybe? Think about it. I maybe wrong as well

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    JTaylor, c’mon now why do you have such a fierce Kobe hate?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I mean really “hasn’t played Defense since 2004″ Really?

  • JTaylor21

    AllBall, I don’t hate the man, I just despise those who think he’s better than a guy like Hakeem. I can make a legitamate case for Hakeem as the greatest center ever which puts him into Top5 greatest player convo but you would be hard-pressed to find a sane individual who can make the same case for Kobe being the best SG of all-time. Kobe is one of the 20 greatest players ever but he’s not better than a guy who dominated so many other greats.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I’m not into the history like some of you guys are, so i’ll defer on all things pre 2000. You do dislike Kobe, though, lets be honest lol. Your still my boy.

  • EJ

    Scottie more complete than MJ? Just that Scottie got more rebounds and assists doesn’t make him a more complete player. MJ and Kobe are guys who have “mastered the game”. You name a move or a shot, and they can do it. MJ and Kobe have the most complete skill sets in history. And remember, stats don’t = skills.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Co-sign EJ

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Hakeem needed MJ to retire for him to win rings.
    And if Jordan hadn’t retired twice, he’d be number one on the all-time scoring list.

  • http://slamonline.com The Ambassador

    BOOK IT WHOA!!!!

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    He’s not better than The King, either…

  • James aka…

    Kobe will pass shaq next year, assuming his decline is slow and steady as it’s been, and he’s not injured for a large chunk of time. He’s 1600 points behind shaq and he scored 1900 last year. In 5 gams, he’ll pass MJ for total regular season games played.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Just think what would have been if Kobe had been able to play his first few seasons. That would have also meant that he would have had to stay on the Hornets and who knows what would have been, but it is not outside the realm of possibilities to think that if Kobe started and had major minutes in his first two seasons that he could have averaged 20 ppg in both of those seasons. oh stats have frivolous you really are…

  • dfortruth

    Congratulations Kobe, keep up the good work. The race is not to the swift, nor to the strong; but those who endure to the end.
    Love Hakeem, and love Kobe, they give the game their best.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Coney Islander

    Shout out to MJ for giving birth to Kobe. ;o)

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Enigmatic, thats fuccn stupid. Hakeem played in the west. Mj lost to the magic in 95. Dont try to change history to fit your opinion. Also, second yr hakeem almost beat celtics in the finals. Mj never beat lakers or celts when then were in their primes. U know 91 lal were way on the downside. If hakeem had and kind of second option early(clyde) he wouldve had more, but he did what he did. And won two. ….. Jtalyor is rightt, hakeem was easiy the best center of all time, and best two way player of all time.

  • El Black Mamba

    Kwame brown > Hakeem

  • dfortruth

    Watching to Lakers and Boston, Kobe is going nuts. I have a knew name for Pau and its Mr. Softy.
    Why don’t Phil Jackson use his bench players?
    Ron looks like he is lost. I don’t blame you Kobe get your points.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign Tarzan Cooper. Disagree with JTaylor though.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Disagree with JTaylor on Kobe being a bad defender… It is debatable whether or not Kobe is better than Hakeem. But they play completely different positions so it’s not a very good argument in the first place.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    No offense, but Bulls fans tend to think Mike never came back in ’95 and that he never averaged over 30 a game in the playoffs when they lost in 6 to a better team…

  • http://www.slamonline.com zoom

    There is NO ONE ON PLANET EARTH who roots against Kobe the way I do. I mean, no one. He is easily my least favorite NBA player of all time. I hate him even worse than I hated Reggie Miller in the 90′s. I’d rather eat dirt than to see him win anything….BUT, that arrogant lil d*ckhead is a top three greatest player of all time…There I said it. Now I can go vomit.

  • JTaylor21

    29 shots and O assists, damn that has to be some kind of record. The legend of the supreme chucker continues.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Royal

    Since when has O been a number?

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    You know, I consider six players legendary: Jordan, Kareem and Wilt, Magic, Bird and Russell. Olajuwon and Kobe are both a step outside and I don’t really KNOW which one of them are better. Also add Duncan and the Big O on that “almost legendary but are missing something” list.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    If Kobe gets another ring or makes 30k in scoring, he’d probably make it into that legendary list.

  • JTaylor21

    Jukai, I know you’re a big Larry Legend fan but what makes him “legendary” and Hakeem not? I know Bird has him beat in the rings and award category but I think that Hakeem gets the better of him in the all-around ability and level of dominance area. Also if you were starting a franchise from scratch and you had to pick between Bird and Hakeem, who would you take?

  • JTaylor21

    Also what is TD “missing”? He’s accomplished and won damn near everything, if Kobe gets into that list then guys like TD, Hakeem, Big O and others have to also.

  • 2KInsider

    @Jukai- I agree with your 6 legends. What do you think Shaq needs to accomplish still to be a legend? I think him playing on 6 different teams hurts his status.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    JTaylor: Bird was a better scorer and (much better) passer, Hakeem was a better (much better) defender and rebounder. As terms of who is a “better” player, I’d have trouble figuring out who. I said I’d take Bird over Duncan without a doubt, but Bird and Hakeem, not sure who I’d build my franchise around. Hakeem had some maturity issues when he first entered the league, had some odd outbursts and fights, while Bird just jumped in at his peak. Of course, Bird also had a much shorter career.
    I may say Hakeem is a “better” player.
    But in terms of greatness, which is when I look at career too, it’s not close. Bird has more rings, more great playoff moments, he’s clutcher and people raved about his leadership, he could contour himself around his team in any matter to win. His rings came against far steeper competition, and he dominated just as many great small forwards as Hakeem did centers (although I agree with yer assumption that Pippen would have made his life hell, one of his famous game winners did come over BOTH Jordan and Pippen, haha).
    So yeah, in my mind, Bird is greater than Hakeem.
    Duncan is different, it’s odd. Yeah, Duncan has four rings, but I just don’t hold him in as high esteem. Maybe I should.

  • Niyasofresh

    Oh no but he’s too old what is like 32 damn that’s grandpa’s age how is he able to stay play at such an epic level Oh wait he’s Kobe freaking Bryant. Not only did he not immediately started playing 40+ minutes straight out of highschool into the league like LeBron, Like T-Mac, or K.G. he made up a lot of ground quick for those years he rode the bench on a team full of Hall of Famers so passing Hakeem is pretty epic for him if he makes it in the top 5 I’ll crap my pants.

  • http://counterkicks.com Quinned

    let’s see Kobe get two quadruple doubles

  • http://slamonline.com The Ambassador

    Kobe Bryant is a living Legend. He has accomplished most of the things that Jukai’s legendary players have done except when two or more MVP’S. He was a good defender and he can still score at will when the Laker bigs are getting handled by guys are smaller than them.

  • flipnoyce

    I’m just wondering why do people compare players with different positions.There’s a reason why POSITIONS are important in the league or any league. People need to really learn how NOT to make comparison with different position! I’m sure a lot of peeps in here are hoop head but just doesn’t know or understand the importance of position. How can anyone make a comparison between a Guard and a Center. It’s so dumb!!! Can KOBE cover HAKEEM?, can HAKEEM cover KOBE? IF KOBE play HAKEEM one on one GOAL tending allowed you best believe Kobe don’t stand a chance!!!

  • 2KInsider

    I think we will continue to see the game be less dominated by any player as time goes on. Jordan was not able to win 8 in a row like Russell or 11 in 13 for that matter. We may not see anyone win 6 in 8 years like Jordan. The way players treat free agency and the way the writers define “MVP” will make it almost almost impossible for a legend to form again.
    There is also that mystery element about players before the 90′s. Legends are built off hear-say stories that have no tangible evidence. Now, every thought and action of these players are being recorded and stored. There is nothing left to the imagination when we think about LeBron.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    flipnoyce: If you’re a hoop head, you know there is more to comparing basketball players to “who can cover who.”

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Do people actually rank Kobe ahead of Shaq? Just wondering.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    @Teddy – Yes.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    Shaq at #4 all time was the worst thing I had ever seen SLAM do. The absolute worst.

  • flipnoyce

    @Jukai:Enlighten me with this knowledge you speak of,FYI I didn’t make that comparison(comment 6:32am)look it up! If you didn’t understand my statement then let me clear it up for you! If you want to compare players they must play the same position. If Kobe were a Center, would you think he’ll be better than Hakeem, or if Hakeem was a shooting guard DO YOU THINK he’ll be better than KOBE! LEBRON is the only LEGIT comparison to position 1 to 4, because he play all of those position. All the other stuff being compared are all tangibles, you can’t have it all!!! Would Kobe be a better point guard than Chris Paul? Is Kobe a better PF than DIRK? My statement is not who can cover who, Why would a Center try to cover a guard and vice versa? Yes, it happens for a split second but not the whole game! Read it again, How can anyone make a comparison between a GUARD and a CENTER????

  • http://www.slamoline.com Max

    @ Flipnoyce
    What about Magic from 1-5?

  • Anthony

    Jukai, for me Tim Duncan is the most underrated great player in the history of the NBA, simple as that. In 2003, we beat the reigning champs (Kobe+Shaq+Phil Jackson btw), we beat the last finalist, but the only thing people could talk about was how boring the Finals was, f*ck that.
    Look who was on that team, TP in his 2nd year, Manu was a rookie, Malik Rose, Stephen Jackson, old D-Rob, Bruce Bowen, Steve Kerr, Danny Ferry, Speedy Claxton, 40y Kevin Willis, 38y Steve Smith, you took Duncan out of the lineup and we would barely had the 8th seed. Talent wise, none of them are on the level of a 3rd All-NBA Team.
    Same thing is 2005, we beat the reigning champs and he was facing freaking Wallace and Wallace.
    Please show him some respect.

  • NOT

    don’t know…difficult to compare 2 players…dream was unique…most talented bigman ever…for me kobe is a MJ wannabe since day 1…

  • Gman

    Kobe has done some great things. Great Job!

  • Mike

    kobes a great player- but he s had alot of help. 5 rings is a bit misleading, like saying worthy is better than hakeem- cos he has 4 rings, or that pippen is better than magic cos he has 1 more ring. kobe has 5, but he was nt the man on the first 3, and he had an all star team for his last 2. i think thats what it takes to win it these days, 3 all stars- but kobe s greatness would have gotten his team to the playoffs in the 3 years he had no help, he didnt, unlike mj or pip, who dragged their teams to the playoffs when they played for the bulls, without each other. still the best player of his generation – no doubt- but i think its equal, with shaq and td.