Friday, December 9th, 2011 at 9:00 am  |  120 responses

Lamar Odom in Disbelief; Pau Gasol ‘Devastated’ By Near-Trade


by Marcel Mutoni @marcel_mutoni

One of the more stunningly bewildering developments in the League’s history took place in a matter of hours last night, and everyone came out of it looking like losers.

David Stern and the NBA’s owners took the biggest hit PR-wise, with their misguided and wholly transparent attempt to control the movement of star players, a decision that (amazingly) came just as they had ratified a new labor deal.

For the players involved in the canceled trade, things are more than a little complicated. There’s talk that Chris Paul might not show up today at the Hornets’ training camp, and that he may even be seeking to take legal action against the NBA.

As for Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, they’re just saddened and confused by the whole thing.

From the LA Times:

Lakers officials were still hunkered down in a room at the team’s El Segundo headquarters Thursday night, trying to ascertain what to do next. With training camp starting Friday, they have another problem. In a phone interview with The Times, Odom said he was sad to hear he was practically traded and wasn’t sure he would attend practice Friday. “Maybe I’ll see you there,” Odom said, “but I doubt it. You don’t want to go to no place you’re not wanted. I’ll try to give them what they want as much as possible.”Odom also felt bad for his teammate.

“Imagine how Pau feels,” he said. “Pau came to the Lakers and played here for four years, went to the Finals and lost, won two NBA championships and then got swept [by Dallas]. Wow! Imagine how he must feel. Man, I’m just in total disbelief about all of this. They don’t want my services, for whatever reason. I don’t know what I’m supposed to do. I was proud to be a Laker, so I’ll try to help them in the process as much as possible.”

A person close to Gasol said the Lakers forward was “devastated” by news of the original trade, which was steered by team executive Jim Buss as much, if not more, than General Manager Mitch Kupchak. The trade would have symbolized the Lakers’ shift from finesse, precision and depth in the frontcourt to speed and athleticism in the backcourt.

The most amazing and hilarious part of this whole sad fiasco, is that Phil Jackson basically predicted the whole thing last year. It’s too bad the Zen Master’s no longer around reporters every day so that he could offer up some biting commentary.

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  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Neaorin
    You’re arguing that the Hornets best bet for rebuilding is holding on to Chris Paul for the entire season, and then drafting low in the first round of the next draft and losing him for nothing?
    Instead of flipping him for legit pieces that can be kept or traded, pieces that will allow them to get the exact same record in the exact same draft and bring in another draft choice?
    How valuable are the Lakers picks? They are not valuable at all, so why is every one asking for their picks?
    As for young talent, the only talent the Lakers have is Bynum, and he’s a question mark.
    I can see your argument that it would suck to be stuck with this squad for the next four years, but why would taht be the case?
    If they really want to stockpile picks, why not flip all of those players for picks or other veterans?
    No crappy team is trading for Paul and giving up picks because they know he won’t resign. No good teams is gutting their roster for him because not only may he not resign, but he’s coming off a subpar year and some people have injury concerns.
    What are the Hornets options? They had their shot to build a winner, they failed miserably, and now they have to salvage the situation.
    What’s the better option?
    The Kaman deal? Clippers won’t include Gordon in that one.
    The Boston deal? Is getting Rondo and Jeff Green really a better option?
    New York?
    Golden State?
    Exactly what is the better option that people want the Hornets to wait for?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    But, to be clear, I think you make a good argument for the problems with this trade.
    If this was the team they were going to have forever, it would be a bad trade.
    But it’s not. They can make other moves with these same players. Sucks for the players, but that’s the business.

  • neaorin

    I am arguing that doing the trade as proposed is WORSE from a rebuilding perspective than letting Paul go for nothing. The Cavs lost LBJ as a FA, got a trade exception and some picks from Miami (because LBJ wanted the extra year, something Paul might want as well), then bottomed out and got a high draft pick to show for it. Think about it, the Hornets drafted Baron Davis, and Paul with high draft picks, and who the hell knows what would’ve happened if Kobe had decided to play for the team that drafted him (yes, those same Hornets). The trading market is a mirage for a team like the Hornets if they want to build a core; they can only hope to add role players to an already established core, which can realistically only come via the draft for them.

  • Scoop

    If CP3 want to go to the Laker’s let that man go,Bryant need some help over there. Odom to busy worrying about the Kardashian and not focusing on the game. Gasol…..well all I can say is where ever he land at he need to be a little tougher.

  • http://www.kittywildeonline.com/ RunNGun

    Lamar Odom is on suicide watch… LOOK OUT!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    So you don’t think they can turn Kevin Martin, Lamar Odom or Luis Scola into a good draft choice?
    And you’re arguing that they should let Paul go for nothing, which means he can sign with the Lakers anyway, albeit for less money? Or the Knicks or whoever.
    I mean, if that’s your logic, I can see why you believe it.
    I think the draft is the best way to build. But, the lottery is not guaranteed to net you a great draft selection, and if the draft is as deep as everyone says, I would want to get multiple picks in the same draft, which you could do by turning those vets into picks.
    But, if you believe the bottoming out route is the best one, I can understand. But that means the League owners continue to subsidize the Hornets, or sell the team at a loss which affects their team values in the future. Because nobody is buying a team for full value that has no superstar in a city that is football crazy.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And you’re wagering that Chris Paul will tank the season.

  • neaorin

    All those players are old (Martin is slightly younger) and overpaid. Chances are people won’t be fighting to give up any good picks for them. Like I said, there’s a reason Houston is moving them, and as good as Gasol is they know he won’t put them over the top. If they don’t move Paul, the Hornets will suck this season regardless because West isn’t coming back. Regarding franchise value, Paul is already out of that discussion so at least you don’t want prospective owners to look at a big payroll which would happen if they did this trade.

  • robb

    if the NBA is trying to sell the Hornets, they just scared away every potential buyer with that sh*tty move.

  • doyouwantmore

    I think the league did the right thing. Sometimes the right thing is unpopular. It would be f#ck*ng ridiculous for LA to have that many top-tier trades in a decade when 20 other teams haven’t had the same opportunities for 20 years. Shouldn’t teams have opportunities to get talented players based on basketball success, and not Hollywood success? As far as I can tell for the last twenty years or so the NBA has been partially controlled by millions of teenagers who like the shiny gold color on the jerseys.

  • DieselMechanic

    Is it me or is Jimmy Buss messing up the Lakers?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    My life be like oooh awwwhh.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    On the next episode of Real Sports Bryant Gumbel should sign off by saying “Oh yeah NBA fans, how you like me now?”

  • http://www.2ksports.com showtime

    @ RUNGUN lol.. they both might be

  • Jrnygirl

    Oh poor Lamar, NOT. What an IDIOT. They were going to trade you away because you are acting too much like one of the spoiled Kardashian witches.

    You don’t just “not show up” that is completely UNPROFESSIONAL! You go there and bust your arse and proof that you are someone worth keeping.

    Basketball is a BUSINESS not a school playground where you get to hang out with your buddies and play ball. Suck it up loser, be a professional and do your FREAKIN’ job that you are so overpaid for!

  • MikeC.

    Since the league owns the Hornets, and the league is comprised of the other 29 owners, can we dead the talk about whiny owners meddling, etc? Since all owners own a piece of the team, shouldn’t they have a voice? Instead of lambasting owners for looking at their own franchise health first and foremost, why aren’t we all going bonkers over the fact that the Hornets don’t have an ownership group and don’t have a viable future in New Orleans? How can a competitive league allow one team to be owned by the other teams’ owners? The league needs to find a way to help the Hornets get out of their arena lease (divide the penalties amongst the other teams?) and get that team moved to Seattle, Kansas City, Vegas, Anaheim, Vancouver, etc. There are cities with NBA-ready arenas just waiting.

  • MikeC.

    Forgot to add that the Hornets would immediately become more attractive to ownership groups if the groups knew they weren’t stuck in a lease in a city that can’t support the team. The team would be easier to sell if the ownership groups knew they could relocate the team.

  • yvonne m

    get real!!!keep our 6th man of the year, whats wrong with the head office the Lakers need Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol has much as Bryant you killed my day and several millions other fans!!!!

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Well… This is awkward.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ neaorin: Houston is moving those pieces because they have a HUGE logjam at the 2-3 position, with a slew of young talent waiting to be developed. They are also in desperate need of a superstar big man, which the team was ALWAYS meant to complement. You’re essentially saying the Hornets should tank the season and lose Chris Paul for nothing… Because that will free up cap space, in a city that no one wants to play for?
    No management would be so inept as to NOT swing something in return for Chris Paul. The Hornets at present have a skeleton of a team.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    The Hornets are not getting a better deal than that. Period. And if they somehow do–which they won’t–the league will have to veto it or risk legal action. So…

  • Yesse

    Well obviously the nba players are nuttin more then some dancing monkies in David Stern s insane power driven megalomaniac world!! Thus he sits there axing their desire to go somewhere where they can win while singing “3 little monkies sitting in a cage” This is what u get when u allow people that killed christ to run things!!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Romans are running the NBA?
    Who knew?

  • Chukaz

    The owners were tripping cuz the lakers got the best pg in the L AND dumped salary lol f*ck it! it didn’t happen. Gasol, if you wanna stay in LA you have your work cut out for you. Playing for the lakers is not a right, is a privilege. 6 ppg and 6 rpg in the 2nd round of the playoffs aren’t laker worthy

  • Yesse

    wait…didn t the jews kill jesus??

  • OTB

    Talks resumed again. WTF?

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    I always knew Darth Stern was Italian.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ OTB What do you mean???

  • OTB

    New Orleans, Houston and Lakers are re-engaged in talks to find a new way to complete Chris Paul blockbuster trade, league sources tell Y!

  • irondan21

    Can you imagine the Kobe-Dan Gilbert icy glares that will occur next Lakers v. Cavs game.

  • http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com OTB

    New Orleans, Houston and Lakers are re-engaged in talks to find a new way to complete Chris Paul blockbuster trade, league sources tell Y!
    Not sure if everyone at SLAM is on Twitter, but Adrian Woj is a must to follow for anything NBA related – that man has the scoop on every story; EPSN reports everything after he does.

  • http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com OTB

    So apparently, Odom showed up to practice 1.5 hours late, talked to Kupchak, and got out of there. I think this is the first time I’ve ever seen a Lakers drama in 10 years where Kobe wasn’t somehow involved. At all.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Man, as a Rockets fan I’ve been getting so antsy about this trade.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    thanks OTB.

  • http://fivemag.de Speedy

    So OTB, if I’m judging your last comment right, I’m pretty sure that the deal will go through.
    If not, Lamar would have practiced after talking to Kupchak.
    Thanks for the insight.

  • http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com OTB

    I’m not sure if it will or will not – Demps just recently said that the Hornets are allowed to make any trade now, apparently (Source = RealGM), so they’re fielding offers again. However, I think some terms of the trade will change, though I’m pretty sure the trade is going to happen…maybe some minor tweaks I guess. Unless another team can place a better offer, but according to Woj, rest of the executives are simply planning to low ball the Hornets every chance they get.

  • MATTYB

    dang this trade would have been interesting to watch! hopefully it still goes through…. and lamar! if OJ can take it like a man you can too!

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    So, Odom showed up and talked to the boss? That is a man’s move. Respectable, in my humble opinion.
    BUT, why are these guys so “hurt” about all of this? When it’s free agency, they tend to spin it like, “this is all about business”, and what not. Like they have or ever had power, or something. They have no power, or very little power, if one were to think in a non pessimistic manner…
    As is such, players are publically crying to the masses when they feel like their feelings are hurt. Not showing up to camp. (or publically threatening to do so) Get out of here.
    Are you kidding me?
    I love basketball. Our brethren up here on SLAMonline, (a real basketball site)and every basketball website (who call themselves real basketball sites) love basketball.
    At the end of the day, it all comes back to the money.
    YOU ARE STILL LIVING THE LIFE THAT ONLY THE LOW GENTILE OF THE EARTH CAN ONLY DREAM OR IMAGINE.
    I understand that to some, that view may be at least flawed, but I’m trying to side with the peasant’s (average fan’s) point of view.
    Get over yourselves. (speaking to players)
    Clowns.
    The owners are going to do what OWNERS do.
    AND the players caught somewhat of a break, considering the logistical trajectory of this entire quagmire. (lockout)
    I mean, seriously…

  • BAYLORBEARS2012

    I dont know about you guys, but I think if anything, Lamar and/or Gasol should’ve been traded to a team such as Minnesota, or Utah. Those 2 teams have interesting pieces. For instance, they could gamble on Paul Millsap or Derek Favors and give Utah a strong veteran in Odom. Minnesota needs veteran leadership and could have possibly traded the likes of Mike Beasley and Martell Webster for Gasol. Minnesota is in a log jam at the 3 where Derrick Williams, Beasley and Anthony Randolph all are capable in putting up points. Throw in a couple draft picks, maybe some scrubs and some money and who knows. Imo thats better than the thought of renting out CP3 for a year

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^No

  • http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com OTB

    The ONLY reason LA is even trading these guys is because its Chris Paul. They’re not trading them for the sake of trading them – they’re trading them to get a superstar player that they’re hoping will lead the ship after Kobe is gone in the next 2-3 years. Paul is only what, 26? By the time Kobe retires, he will be 29 or so, which means he’ll still have some good years left, not to mention the fact that the Lakers might still be able to get Dwight.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    co-sign OTB

  • Holiday

    Wow how shocking…. Lakers don’t get exactly what they want or just handed a championship team and there fans start crying!!!! NOBODY could have predicted that!!!!

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    didn’t they veto the trade because David Stern wants to move Chris Paul to Phoenix and bring in Steve Nash and Grant Hill….?? Just so Stern can have Nash a little closer to destroy…?

  • RandalJ

    co sign Allenp @10:21

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Dacre: You may be onto something… Is Steve Nash is secretly Darth Stern’s son?

  • jdn41

    David Stern is worst than my fantasy basketball commissioner. I hate you SikWidIt88!!! lol

  • Drig

    Stern : Nash, I’m you’re father!…………..And Paul, you’re my bi*ch. Su*k on it. lol…..

  • jj

    “Is Steve nash is secretly David Stern’s son?” Wow, you are ignorant.

  • jj

    “Is Steve nash is secretly David Stern’s son?” Wow, you are ignorant.

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