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Sunday, June 2nd, 2013 at 12:00 pm  |  93 responses

Roy Hibbert Issues Apology After Saying ‘No Homo’ During Press Conference


After leading his squad to a victory with 24 points and 11 boards in Game 6, Roy Hibbert ended one of his remarks during his post-game press conference Saturday night with “no homo”. Via NBA.com, here’s his full apology, though we have a feeling this won’t stop the League from hitting the Pacers center with a pretty hefty fine: “I am apologizing for insensitive remarks made during the postgame press conference after our victory over Miami Saturday night. They were disrespectful and offensive and not a reflection of my personal views. I used a slang term that is not appropriate in any setting, private or public, and the language I used definitely has no place in a public forum, especially over live television. I apologize to those who I have offended, to our fans and to the Pacers’ organization. I sincerely have deep regret over my choice of words last night.”

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  • Max

    I didn’t even catch that the first time lol that was too funny!

  • neaorin

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  • Dymez

    When he does get that hefty fine, I’m pretty sure it won’t be for his “no homo” remark from last night.

  • fruizm

    Whats wrong with saying that?

  • playa

    He forgot to apologize for being tall,black,skilled,for being man and for using the oxygen while breathing, im still waiting…..

  • LIme

    I don’t see “no homo” as hateful or offensive in anyway.

  • ZOGS

    C’MON ROY!!!
    -

    YOU GOTTA SAY “PAUSE”…..WHITE PPL DONT UNDERSTAND IT LOOOOL

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    What’s not wrong with saying that? For one, he’s a grown @ss man.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/savagemuzicgroup T-Ray

    When are these players going to learn that you’re under a microscope when it comes to homosexual remarks? Even if you use that phrase on a daily bases unfortunately you can’t just say whatever you want or you’ll be ridiculed.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Very interesting. Your personal opinion means absolutely nothing in determining which words are hateful or offensive, but thanks for sharing.

  • fruizm

    Haha

  • fruizm

    Whats wrong with it though? I never use that “slang” but I think under the right circumstances, I think its pretty funny. Its like “thats what she said”.

  • Slick ric

    Sigh…Damn, this country is too sensitive.

  • initbruv

    Yeah but if you were a gay person
    you’d probably welcome the effort to examine our vernacular to stop
    using gay as a synonym for bad, or saying f*ggot like there is no
    context to the word. I get sh*t from my gay friends for things I say and
    sometimes it’s annoying to me, but you have to try to see it from their
    perspective.

  • danpowers

    grown men are not allowed to have a sense for humor?

  • danpowers

    that was neither a hate speach nor a direct insult. for f*cks sake. if he is straight, why cant he just say “no homo”?

    e.g. nobody would give jason collins any problems if he dropped a line like “no hetero”. wtf…

  • Kev

    If he gets fined Dennis Rodman and Charles Barkley will role over in their metaphorical grave

  • MikeG

    LOL…The same can be said for you as well. The comment section IS ABOUT sharing ones perspective and opinion. Something that typical arrogant political extremists like yourself, who are ironically the most opinionated always fail to appreciate.

  • initbruv

    Yeah nobody would get mad because straight people have never been oppressed or discriminated against.

  • fruizm

    Exactly!

  • Dagger

    “No homo” depicts homosexuality as a cause for embarrassment, something from which you should immediately distance yourself.

    More to the point: Teddy is right. You might not be offended by something, but your offense is not as relevant as that of the targeted group.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    1) It’s not funny. 2) Grown men (and women) probably shouldn’t find schoolyard homophobia to be the mark of a good sense of humor.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    “If he is white, why can’t he just say ‘no black’?”

    Is it okay to say “No Jewishness” too? Why don’t we just go around
    saying “No Mexican” while we’re at it? Or “No ghetto”. Or “No Chinese”.
    Hey, why not say “No disabled” while we’re at it?

    Straight people aren’t discriminated against in any way, shape, or form.

  • meee

    lol wow why is ppl getting mad about him saying “no homo” like he said James stretched me out so much, LOL that sounds gay so that’s why he said “no homo”

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I like how this guy thinks the problem is that people don’t get the joke, like the only reason people are pissed is that “no homo” jokes are too difficult for the average person to understand.

    We get the joke. It sucks. That still has nothing to do with why people find it offensive.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Your individual opinion has no relevance to something that’s determined by social relations. Whether words are offensive or not has nothing to do what certain individuals think, even if you happen to find a gay person who thinks “no homo” isn’t offensive. I’m sure you can find black people who think it’s alright for their white friends to call them the N word too, or women who think it’s fine for guys to call them the B word. That still has zero relevance to why or how something is offensive.

    It’s also worse if you’re a straight person who thinks “no homo” isn’t offensive, and then thinks that’s a perfectly good reason why gay people should feel the same way.

  • Jerome

    The saying is offensive, as Dagger points out. What is more offensive is people trying to claim that it isn’t. The world is based on individual opinion/preference. As wrong as your assertion is, I support your having asserted it.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Are you seriously trying to use blackness to justify being homophobic? Really? If so, that’s gotta be the worst logic I’ve ever seen.

    The irony is that Roy gets it (or his PR people, w/e). He did the right thing by apologizing, and most people are moving on. The only people who can’t seem to move on are those who think there’s nothing wrong with saying “no homo” and are actually MORE offended by the fact that he apologized than the people who would’ve been offended by his saying “no homo”. Ya’ll realize that, right?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    k hopefully that’s the last comment I have to make on this thread… lol. I’m audi.

  • initbruv

    Unrelated side note- There is a dude who posted on this article from 5 years ago as “Boston Bomber”…weird.

    http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2008/03/riley-stunned-as-shaq-burns-another-bridge/

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    It’s wrong because it’s homophobic. In fact, you only find it funny because it’s homophobic–that’s the entire point of the joke. But the fact that you find it funny doesn’t mean it isn’t wrong.

  • danpowers

    to me these categories are not the same or comparable to “no homo”. if he wouldve said smth like “f*cking qu*er” i wouldve understood why he should apologize. and the way he used it seemed more like self irony to me than a slur.

    whut!? straight people arent discriminated against? have you ever been at a fashion show? lol

  • danpowers

    at least not for being straight.

    i get the idea behind it. i just think that no homo isnt necessarily a hostile thing to do. to me it appears to be something to let oneself look self ironically like a homophobic after having said something that couldve been understood as gay.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    well, how about “No murderer”…..or no “homeless man”…..or no “left hand player”……..since we are comparing everything to everything……don’t wanna go down this road, but i have to say: being Gay is not comparable to the civil rights movement….or being a woman that couldn’t vote… Thats all….they were discriminated against simply because they were born…

    Murderers are discriminated against….felons are discriminated against…..People with bad credit are discriminated against…you guys wanna fix the world so that nobody is discriminated against? start with me, I wanna be approved for this new 2013 Audi….tell the bank not to discriminate against me and my sub-700 credit score…

    Thats all…

  • Facts

    Being Gay and acting gay are two different things. If you felt gay 200 years ago you would not openly find partners. But in certain parts of the world allows expression of homosexuality. It is highly unusual for the human species to grow.

  • teddyhomo

    teddy the bear is a homo

  • initbruv

    I understand man and it’s not like I don’t ever say things like that. It’s just that we are living in a time where we’re trying to rethink our language so as to be more politically correct. It’s like how people used to say “call a spade a spade” but they don’t now because of the racial context or how dudes used to call women “toots” and sh*t but now they don’t.

    It can be exhausting for those of us that are white, heterosexual males who feel like we’re good people who are just joking around, but the point is that the language we use matters.

    “No homo” is said to clarify that one is not gay after saying something that can be misconstrued as sounding gay. It puts homosexuality in the negative because the speaker is concerned with being mistaken for being gay, as though something is wrong with that.

    I know it’s just a joke, but it’s a joke that puts homosexuality in the negative. That being said I grew up playing sports and working in restaurants (and I’m a white, heterosexual male) so nothing offends me. But you can see how others would be put off, right?

  • Lloyd

    I find it to be literally like “that’s what she said” too. I mean it’s on the same level in my opinion. However, as heterosexual men, we’re not allowed to have that opinion because then we hate homosexuality in general apparently.

  • initbruv

    Murderers, felons, people with bad credit, and you are discriminated against because of things you did or didn’t do, not because of your existence.

    And the gay rights fight is different than the other two movements because you can hide being gay, you can’t hide being black or a woman. As a result, the torturous reality of being gay in the past is that you could avoid trouble so long as you hid who you really were. Can you imagine how horrible that would be? Love is one of the only things that makes life bearable. Being gay in the past meant that you could not experience that like other people (remember that being gay isn’t just about sex, it’s about love too).

    There’s a difference between us needing to make sure nobody is discriminated against and fighting to make sure that gay people are not discriminated against.

  • initbruv

    You’re allowed to have that opinion but you should expect criticism for it, obviously. That’s what happens when you express an opinion.

  • initbruv

    And btw, this still exists today in parts of America. Cities are open to it but plenty of the rest of America still treats you like a pariah if you’re gay. That’s why SLC is one of the highest gay people per capita cities in America-the rest of the state is unbearable for them to live in so they all move to the city to live a normal life.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Dude, are you seriously comparing being gay to being a murderer and a felon? What the f*ck?

    How are gay people NOT being discriminated against just for being were born, when sexuality IS in most cases something you’re born with? Unless you think gay sex is a criminal act, which in that case you’re just living in crazy-land.

    I don’t think people should be discriminated against because of their credit score either, for the record, because I don’t believe in credit and I’m against capitalism. And I don’t think past felons who served their time should be discriminated against. If it were up to me you’d have that 2013 Audi for free. We don’t have to play oppression Olympics; many different groups of people are oppressed in white supremacist, capitalist-imperialist, patriarchal America.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    You don’t believe in credit scores? Ok. I know all I need to know.

  • Dagger

    This is one of the most disturbing examples of twisted logic that I can remember reading on Slam. That’s saying something.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Umm, I don’t believe that people should be denied basic necessities of life because they have bad credit as a result of being poor… Do you?

    Coming from the guy with the bible up his @ss who just compared gay people to murderers… That’s probably a compliment. Thanks LP.

  • Lloyd

    I have no problem having people oppose my opinion intelligently and respectfully. However being labled “homophobic” for having/stating that opionion is not criticism, it’s a false accusation.

  • initbruv

    Ok, well I would agree with that. It’s a conversation stopper.

  • Mike From Spain
  • king_tut

    lol! go to the Philippines and you will know what sensitive really is..

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Thank you. thats what i aim for.

  • Mike From Spain

    Hmm…from my own experience, there are plenty of turns of phrase that we have learned early in our lives and we say without thinking about their real meaning. I see that this ‘no homo’ probably does not mean that Hibbert hates gay people, it is just that he used some slang without thinking about what it really means. So, is it wrong? I would say, probably not guilty of actively hating anyone, but just using old idioms that should be thought about and not used any longer.

  • Mike From Spain

    Probably not hateful in this instance, but I could imagine many finding it in poor taste, some just waving it off as a stupid figure of speech, and few really mulling it over and feeling hurt.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    i never even picked a side and you’ve already assumed I’m anti-gay rights, with your bible comments…. You said “straight people dont get discriminated against”… i’m saying youre wrong, they get discriminated against all of the time. I’m not saying gay people are murderers/felons…

    I’m simply saying this: just because gays are discriminated against doesn’t mean you can compare that to the Civil Rights movement and “being black”….

    I just think you have to argue another point if you want your voice to be heard on gay rights. Comparing gay rights to civil rights movements is pretty weak and disrespectful to a lot of black people.

  • Mike From Spain

    Extremist? I don’t find his ideas ‘extreme’.

  • MikeG

    “Coming from the guy with the bible up his @ss”

    Anyone find that offensive?

    Would you tell a presumed Muslim he was the guy with the quran up his…???

    Ever heard of religious discrimination?

    Yeah, so much for….”Your individual opinion has no relevance to something that’s determined by social relations. Weather words are offensive or not has nothing to do what certain individuals think”.

    You illustrated my point perfectly…

  • MikeG

    “no homo” could be literally translated as meaning “not gay” or “not homosexual”.
    There is no vulgar or derogitory language used in the term.

    My question is: Does making the statement that one is not gay/homosexual “no homo” make someone homophobic? Or is it more of a matter of political correctness?

    Commenters like Teddy-the-bear feel very comfortable using extremely derogatory and vulgar language in reference to ones religious beliefs. Even in spite of SLAMs discussion rules for commenting that read:

    Commenters who seek to accomplish any of the following may be banned:

    • Personally attack other commenters.
    • Make derogatory comments regarding race, ethnicity, language, gender, sexual orientation or RELIGION..

    Clearly there is a double standard.

  • initbruv

    It certainly does not make them homophobic.

  • initbruv

    And yes it’s a matter of political correctness.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/savagemuzicgroup T-Ray

    Well said.

  • MikeG

    Political entities have employed and made popular the usage of the term “homophobic” as a political weapon and a way to control what should be socially acceptable in popular culture. Sort of a “if you’re not for us you’re against us” way of alienating and vilifying anyone who does not support or embrace homosexuality.

    “No homo” quite literally means not homosexual. Obviously the connotation is negative, as you said implying immediate distance from said sexuallity but does that make it descriminatory?

    While it is true that some people desire that everyone else agree with their preferences in life, it ‘s just not realistic. Realistically as long as others are not trying to enforce their will on another people have they have the right to voice their own opinion and preference.

    Some people feel homosexuality is morally wrong. Some don’t. Some people want to distance themselves from it. Some don’t.

    free from derogatory vulgar or hateful language is a term like “no homo” really offensive and discriminatory? Or is it more or less affiliated with a viewpoint that’s not POLITICALLY correct?

  • danpowers

    sure, i also got you on that.

    its just that i understand political correctness for some certain terms like those you used as examples.
    but i consider some as harmless and “no homo” to me is harmless. even some gays i know use that as a joke after getting to straights with a gay joke.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Like straight people, Christians aren’t discriminated against in America either, just by the way.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    What the hell are you talking about? I never said gay was the new black. You’re actually the only one bringing that up here. There was one dude (playa) who tried to insinuate that Hibbert had to apologize for saying “no homo” just because he’s black, and not because that statement is homophobic, which is stupid because being black isn’t a license to be homophobic. I don’t think black people are any more homophobic than white people, but being from an oppressed group doesn’t give you a license to engage in other kinds of bigotry.

    You also compared anti-gay discrimination to anti-murderer discrimination and say you aren’t picking a side. Seriously, this is the type of logic you’re coming at me with. Try harder.

  • Spence

    He wasn’t right for saying this, But I feel like the NBA or sports in general can use more of people not being “politically correct”… Adds excitement lls

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    That is such terrible logic I don’t even know where to begin. Do I really need to explain this sh!t to you from scratch? The joke itself IS homophobic, because it uses homosexuality as something derogatory, something to be ashamed about and feel grossed out about, so much so that straight men have to clarify they AREN’T gay every time they say something that could be construed as a gay innuendo.

    The joke isn’t that you’re just pointing out a sexual innuendo, it’s that you point out the innuendo AND THEN you clarify that you aren’t gay… in order to preserve your manliness or whatever dumb patriarchal sh!t you can come up with.

    The entire POINT of the joke, the entire reason people find it humorous, is that it’s homophobic. That doesn’t mean you’re a f*cking Nazi in real life and you go around attacking random gay people if you say “no homo”, but the joke itself is objectively, unarguably homophobic.

    When you deny that basic point, it’s EXACTLY like when white people use so-called “color-blindness” to avoid admitting that something is racist, when in fact it is. Someone could easily say “Just because I put on black face and wear Native American headdress whenever I go out and party doesn’t mean I’m a Klansmen, that’s ridiculous”–and they’re right… but it doesn’t make their actions NOT objectively f*cking racist.

    Obviously racial oppression and gay oppression have different dynamics and characteristics, but being an anti-gay bigot still means you’re a reactionary f*cking fool.

    This particular incident with Hibbert isn’t that big of a deal because he apologized; but to admit that there’s nothing wrong with the joke is just asisine. Hibbert is better than that–clearly most of you aren’t. You idiots are actually more offended by the fact that he apologized than people were by his saying “no homo” in the first place.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Lol sure, I’m cool with that. But I also f*cked your dad last week, I hope you’re cool with that too. Say hi to your big gay dad for me.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Right, those damn gay people, using “homophobia” for their own political ends, oppressing us straight people!!!

    That is such terrible logic I don’t even know where to begin. Do I really need to explain this to you from scratch? The joke itself IS homophobic, because it uses homosexuality as something derogatory, something to be ashamed about and feel grossed out about, so much so that straight men have to clarify they AREN’T gay every time they say something that could be construed as a gay innuendo.

    The joke isn’t that you’re just pointing out a sexual innuendo, it’s that you point out the innuendo AND THEN you clarify that you aren’t gay… in order to preserve your manliness or whatever dumb patriarchal sh!t you can come up with. Because the connotation is that gay people are weak and feminine (and we all know being feminine is the worst thing in the world too, isn’t it? smh), and so you HAVE to clarify that you’re not gay.

    The entire POINT of the joke, the entire reason people find it
    humorous, is that it’s homophobic. That doesn’t mean you’re a f*cking Nazi in real life and you go around attacking random gay people if you say “no homo”, but the joke itself is objectively, unarguably homophobic.

    When you deny that basic point, it’s EXACTLY like when white people use so-called “color-blindness” to avoid admitting that something is racist, when in fact it is. Someone could easily say “Just because I put on black face and wear Native American headdress whenever I go out and party doesn’t mean I’m a Klansmen, that’s ridiculous”–and they’re right… but it doesn’t make their actions NOT objectively f*cking racist.

    Obviously racial oppression and gay oppression have different dynamics and characteristics, but being an anti-gay bigot still means you’re a reactionary f*cking fool.

    This particular incident with Hibbert isn’t that big of a deal because he apologized; but to admit that there’s nothing wrong with the joke is just asisine. Hibbert is better than that–clearly most of you aren’t. You idiots are actually more offended by the fact that he apologized than people were by his saying “no homo” in the first place.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Just because something is your “opinion”, or your “preference”, doesn’t mean your opinion is correct. And yeah, if you have the opinion of a bigot, I’m going to call you out on it.

    I
    know in amurrikkkan fantasy-land, simply saying “BUT ITSSS MUH
    FREEDOMZ” is a perfectly good excuse for being any kind of bigot you like, whether it’s a racist, sexist,
    classist, homophobic and/or transphobic one, but there’s
    something called the real world that bigots should probably acquaint themselves with.

    “Realistically as long as others are not trying to enforce their will on

    another people have they have the right to voice their own opinion and
    preference.”

    Yeah, except gay people (and also trans people) are
    actually structurally oppressed by society as a whole. And our hyper religious patriarchal culture
    actively enforces its will on gay people every day, whether it’s shaming
    them psychologically (i.e. bullying kids into committing suicide) or
    physically assaulting them. Yeah, things are improving, but it’s due to people who think the OPPOSITE of people like you.

    So it’s not just politically
    incorrect to be a homophobe, it’s also socially incorrect
    and flat-out morally incorrect, given the actual, real-world
    consequences these people suffer as a result of anti-gay bigotry.

    Just
    because you cry “WHY DO YOU HATE MUH FREEDOMZ OF OPINIONNN” doesn’t
    change the fact that your opinion is terrible and DOES have real-world
    consequences. You’re literally crying about not having the “freedom” to demean gay people and insult them with schoolyard jokes, and wondering why people can’t just respect your opinion that anti-gay bigotry is okay.

    Who the hell do you think you’re fooling? GTFO of here.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Just because something is your “opinion”, or your “preference”, doesn’t
    mean your opinion is correct. And yeah, if you have the opinion of a
    bigot, I’m going to call you out on it.

    I
    know in amurrikkkan fantasy-land, simply saying “BUT ITSSS MUH
    FREEDOMZ” is a perfectly good excuse for being any kind of bigot you like, whether it’s a racist, sexist,
    classist, homophobic and/or transphobic one, but there’s
    something called the real world that bigots should probably acquaint themselves with.

    “Realistically as long as others are not trying to enforce their will on

    another people have they have the right to voice their own opinion and
    preference.”

    Yeah, except gay people (and also trans people) are
    actually structurally oppressed by society as a whole. And our hyper religious patriarchal culture
    actively enforces its will on gay people every day, whether it’s shaming
    them psychologically (i.e. bullying kids into committing suicide) or
    physically assaulting them. Yeah, things are improving, but it’s due to people who think and act–which is the most important–the OPPOSITE of people like you.

    So it’s not just politically
    incorrect to be a homophobe, it’s also socially incorrect
    and flat-out morally incorrect, given the actual, real-world
    consequences these people suffer as a result of anti-gay bigotry.

    Just

    because you cry “WHY DO YOU HATE MUH FREEDOMZ OF OPINIONNN” doesn’t
    change the fact that your opinion is terrible and DOES have real-world
    consequences. You’re literally crying about not having the “freedom” to
    demean gay people and insult them with schoolyard jokes, and wondering why people can’t just respect your opinion that anti-gay bigotry is okay, or that it isn’t anything but irrational hatred.

    Who the hell do you think you’re fooling?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    OMG why do the comments always do this to me??? LOL. F*ck, man…

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    the joke itself is objectively homophobic. if you make that joke, whether you’re consciously being hateful or not, you are making a homophobic joke.

  • Daneil1982

    Well said

  • Daneil1983

    Please log off!

  • aidanose

    ESPN’s current fascination with any topic dealing with homosexuality is bordering on obsessive. The Jason Collins story (which I wrote about) was a HUGE story. A current player coming out of the closet? That’s a big deal. But sensationalizing a comment from a press conference because the word “homo” was mentioned? That’s forcing an agenda. That’s reaching too hard for a story.

    http://aidanfromworcester.com/2013/06/02/indiana-pacers-roy-hibbert-no-homo-comment-homophobic-slur-or-new-yolo/

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Straight people don’t get discriminated against *BECAUSE THEY’RE STRAIGHT*, they get discriminated against for other reasons–because they belong to a different oppressed group, i.e. people of color or women.

    Holy sh!t dude, that is such terrible logic! That’s like bringing up the fact that white women are disadvantaged compared to men, and then saying “White people are discriminated against!” because those women happen to be white. Does that mean people are oppressed *because* they’re white? OF COURSE NOT.

    It’s never occurred to you that there are gay black men who are discriminated against both because they’re black and because they’re gay?

    NO ONE said gay is the new black. At all. But civil rights DOES protect people from discrimination based on sexual orientation. You should look up the definition of civil rights before trying exclude certain people from it, which is ironically the opposite of civil rights.

    Jesus Christ.

  • Max

    lol, why the hell is language in there?

  • initbruv

    The joke is homophobic. He was asked whether that makes someone a homophobe for saying it, which I was arguing it does not.

  • initbruv

    I think it’s funny how everyone keeps saying “I have the right to voice my opinion about gays”…etc…as though they aren’t giving their opinion as they’re typing that. I think they misconstrue being allowed to voice their opinions with having the right to not have their opinion questioned or combated.

  • initbruv

    When people voice their opinions that aren’t in support of gay rights then they will be challenged on those opinions, why does this surprise you?

    And you’re making an argument that is separate from what everyone else here is. In your last paragraph, you’re implying that the term no homo is affiliated with a particular viewpoint (i.e. the viewpoint not in support of gay rights), hence why it is being attacked.

    Everyone else here is just arguing that it is a joke so we’re overreacting to it, which is more understandable. If it is being used to support an anti-gay ideology then that makes it much more egregious.

    No one is pretending that everyone is going to agree with their viewpoint on life, they just aren’t going to sit around and not challenge each others views. If people think homosexuality is immoral then so be it. But the people that aren’t being realistic are the ones like you who think that somehow them having that opinion is not grounds for others to call them out on it when they voice their opinion. What fantasy world are you living in?

  • Lloyd

    You think Roy Hibbert said “no homo” because he thought people were going to think he was gay for using a phrase that’s pretty common in baskeball? Homosexuality being “something derogatory, something to be ashamed about and feel grossed out about” is your perceived intent behind the phrase that he said. That’s not the reason he said it. It’s clearly an inuendo based JOKE equivalent to “that’s what she said”. Maybe you’d prefer he said, “that’s what the gay guy said, which I’m totally cool with” instead?

    Again, “dumb patriarchal” intentions are what you’re projecting on to Roy Hibbert and anyone who uses that phrase as a joke.

    It’s not funny because it’s homophobic, it’s funny because it’s unintentional innuendos! Again, you’re projecting homophobic intent on to everything.

    I’m not even going to respond to your point on racism. The oppression and suffering that minorities have, and still do face, is exponentially larger than the sex that you’re attracted to and the whatever construed social complications that may or may not arise from it.

    Hibbert apologized because the oversensitive masses (yourself included apparently), would paint him as a homophobe if he didn’t make some effort to try and retract the statement. Public image is everything when you’re a celebrity. Would’ve done the same if I made a harmless joke that was related to homosexuality (no homophobe!).

  • danpowers

    1) well… “bron stretched me out (…) no homo” is funny

    2) come on man. i get your point. its not really important for that discussion here but i would like to explain myself to you for not appearing in a wrong light. i am impressed by jason collins and think he is very brave and hope that he wont stay the only gay professional athlete to have his coming out. kudos to that courrage and shame on those who got issues with that.

    i am not homophobic, got gay friends of both genders and have absolutely no issues with interacting with gay people (and right here… it itches in my fingers to type “no homo”), gay marriage or whatsoever. i think using “no homo” as a person without any hatred or prejudice towards homosexual persons is more about being self ironical than actually being homophobic or using a gay slur.

    “no homo” is wrong. but come on man, wrong things often feel so good lol. i dont trust people expressing themselves 100% politically correct, that is never 100% honest and id rather expose my own inner demons and society’s drawbacks by satirically using politcal un-correct terms than to act as if i was made of teflon. to me hibbert appeared not even sarcastic or satirical or zynical. he made just a quite harmless infantile joke. its wrong if we break it down to its essence, but i can still grin about it as a harmless sidenote. what he did didnt compare in any way to e.g. tim hardaways comments back then. man, even gay people use that “no homo” sh*t to joke with straights.

  • Dagger

    Thank you for writing this response, so I didn’t have to. There’s nothing more exhausting than replying to willful ignorance disguised as reasonable common sense.

  • Brighton Thomas

    Yo Mike, if you don’t think people have a right to says what they want, why don’t you practice what you preach. Don’t call people names! You make your position on the CAUSE a JOKE.- and counter productive. You contradict what you claim to be standing up for.
    PUT A CAP on your own name calling dude.

  • Brighton Thomas

    When a black person can wake up and NOT BE BLACK one day- you’ll have an argument- right now your point null and void

  • Brighton Thomas

    In my opinion just the term homophobic is a LIE- so as such it doesn’t get ANY airplay with me. Homophobic suggests that someone is AFRAID of homosexuals- PHOBIA = FEAR. It’s the most nonsensical word EVER entered into the English language. NO ONE I know FEARS homosexuals.
    These wimps fuss about he word “HOMO” being offensive and a discriminatory term, well so is HOMOPHOBIA then, You don’t like it keep all that crap to yourselves.

  • initbruv

    Yes homophobic can mean fear of gay people OR antipathy towards them. Antipathy means a deep-seated feeling of dislike or aversion.

  • initbruv

    What, and a gay person can? What is your point? And why do you keep caps locking words? Is that you yelling at your computer as you type?

  • initbruv

    You know what is really offensive? People who caps locks certain words or phrases on comment boards. Settle down young man.

  • Brighton Thomas

    Ya’ll are some over sensitive pansies. If I could use italics, I would- as expression.. obviously another thing you’d like to WARP out of context.
    Meaning? The parallel is offensive, because it’s impossible.
    And yes, there’s been people who lived their lives as gay, and woke up one day- deciding they weren’t. There’s kids running around confused about their sexuality… BLACK PEOPLE can’t be confused. STraight people JUST know, apparently GAY people JUST know- cause it’s just as natural? … WHY the confusion then? And if don’t like CAPS don’t read my posts.

  • initbruv

    I don’t like your attempt at using the English language more than anything…but sadly you’ll never wake up suddenly able to use it.

    And I already said that I’m not offended by any of this sh*t. My point is that the language we use matters to the people we use it at the expense of. If you’re a decent person, which you’re obviously not, then that’s important to you.

    I also don’t go around calling people homophobes, btw, because it shuts off conversation and is generally a worthless effort. I was responding to someone else’s objection to my saying that if someone says “no homo” it doesn’t make them a homophobe. I responded by saying that the phrase is blatantly homophobic, but not the person saying it.

    Is that plain enough English for you there fella?

    p.s nobody wakes up and is no longer gay. That’s an imaginary world you live in.

  • Brighton Thomas

    Which neither HAS to be the case, No one HAS to have a deep seated dislike. You all blow everything out of proportion. What id really offensive is people trying to dictate what others like or dislike, and “in your face” about it. Fall back.

  • Brighton Thomas

    You’re clearly deceived, and blinded. There’s plenty of people that lived lives as gay, even campaigned for rights, and are now living lives as straight people. Research son. I’m 100% in reality. When was the last time you were as pro-active and vocal about the longstanding issue America has with racism directed at blacks and hispanics… more than likely not anytime lately. This homosexual agenda has basically put ALL OTHER unrelated causes on the back burner. There’s people stepping up to defend, even in these cases where CLEARLY no “hate” is involved, that never in a million years would have EVER stepped up to defend black people UNTIL most recently. People try desperately to parallel black people and homosexuals, so that homosexuals get support- NOT to support black or hispanic people, or they would have been vocal a long time ago. It’s a warped, distorted and blatant imbalance.

  • initbruv

    There’s enough concern for other people to go around. The issue in this article is regarding gay people. You have no idea what the f*ck I think about all this other sh*t you’re talking about. I’m the one who’s blowing things out of proportion and a pansy and yet you’re the one who’s trying to make this about something it isn’t.
    If you have a problem with racism and lack of concern for the poor then I’m with you on that. If you think that because of peoples’ concern for gay rights, they no longer give a sh*t about anything else, then you lost me.

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