Wednesday, February 12th, 2014 at 9:00 am  |  124 responses

LeBron James Says He’ll Be on the NBA’s Mount Rushmore


by Marcel Mutoni @ marcel_mutoni

You can see him picking up steam, slowly reaching peak physical fitness as the season progresses towards the Playoffs. LeBron James isn’t just playing some of his best ball of late, but he’s also talking plenty of smack along the way.

In an NBATV intervew set to air on Monday, James opens up about his place in NBA lore.

The reigning MVP confidently states that he’ll be among the four greatest players of all time once his brilliant career comes to an end.

Per the Miami Herald:

On who belongs on the NBA’s Mount Rushmore of the four greatest player: James named Michael Jordan, Larry Bird and Magic Johnson and said the fourth is “so tough” before naming Oscar Robertson.

Are you up there? “Yes, because I’ll be one of the top four guys that every played this game, for sure,” he said. “Someone’s got to get bumped.”

Go ahead and keep talking your sh*t, ‘Bron.

Now in his 11th season, the 29-year old LeBron James shows no sign at all of slowing down. Who’s to argue with his belief that he’ll rank among the game’s giants once it’s all said and done, assuming of course that he’s not already there?

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  • LLC#12

    I’d like to see him lead the league in scoring again before its all over. Would be a treat to watch him in scoring mode for a whole season, putting all his tools to use every night

  • king 6/23

    Probably 32-33 ppg if he focused solely on scoring.

  • The Real

    Im curious to see how well hell adjust to playing in his 30s. Few players have been able to retain their high level after their athleticism drops. Of course this is assuming he even loses it

  • Happy

    Everyone loses it at some point. That’s not a question. But his game has been evolving in a good way a few seasons already. He’s nearly unstoppable in the post. Footwork is improving. He’ll transition well when the athleticism fades.

  • logues

    MJ, Magic, Bird, Shaq

  • The Seed

    Really, Lebron, this is why you are hated by alot of folks. The Spurs gave you a ring and now you are on NBA Mount Rushmore. Like alot of NBA Legends have stated, you can’t put Lebron past Kobe yet in my books. Right now MJ, Magic, Bird, Oscar and Kobe are my NBA Mount Rushmore of not having Centers. Centers have their own Mount and that has Kareem, Hakeem, Wilt, Bill and Moses Malone. Shaq is not in my top 5 Centers all time, because his peak was only about 5 years, if you look at what he did with his teams. Lebron, is talking alot, but really dude, you lucked up last year and now I can’t wait until Pacers knock him out. Then guess what, he will find another 2 All Stars to play with, then they will hurt their careers. I actually feel bad for Wade and Bosh, they will become side-notes in their careers now. I still feel Wade should have kept going on his own with another player to get rings. Wade basically helped give Bron two rings and now he will be a side-note with his Career. Lebron is losing it. Pride comes, before the fall.

  • hashzz

    The “mount Rushmore” of basketball is an opinionated argument…not everyone has the same 4-5 players on their respective lists. That’s why I dislike these GOAT conversations. If your of the top 10-15 in your sport, then those names change.

  • boss

    What ever happened to letting my game do all the talking. Hes getting more and more entitled and arrogant.

  • hashzz

    I also have kobe near my top 5 , and talent wise I’m not sure magic and bird are better. Was magic a better leader than kobe, absolutely, but besides assisting what facet of the game was he more dominating than kobe? Kareem should also be there. Hakeem the dream was a better center than shaq, and Duncan’s longevity beats both Shaq & hakeems

    Just opinions…..

  • hashzz

    Lebron is very arrogant, does alot of yapping. I blame LESPN and these media outlets, you’d think he’s Jesus

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Shaq’s peak was only 5 years?

    that 10 year stretch where he averaged 28-12-3-2 was really not that great right?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    let’s just be realistic. he has a chance. but he still has a ways to go before he jumps into the “Mt. Rushmore” of non-centers.

  • Louiev

    Finally! Nice Lebron but I’m glad this guy is saying what he really feels whether you feel it’s arrogant or whatever. I don’t care, I love his determination.

  • Louiev

    Yeah, I stopped reading after “the Spurs gave you a ring”. You’re clearly an idiot, shut up.

  • Dagger

    Okay . . . he said “I’LL be one of the top four guys.” As in, I WILL be. And we all know that he’s really aiming to be the best ever, which is exactly what a guy with his talent and resume (at age 29) should be aiming for. I sure as hell know that’s what Kobe has been gunning for his whole career.

  • speedy

    Yeah and jordan, kobe… never talked smack???

  • Dagger

    He averaged 31.4 PPG in 2005-6. I’d be very surprised if he couldn’t average 35 PPG now, provided his team’s success hinged entirely on him scoring. But he’d have to take more shots, and his efficiency would drop as a result.

  • Fat Lever

    So when MJ big up’s himself, it’s acceptable, but when Lebron does it’s why he’s hated. MJ, as great as he is(the GOAT) seems to be a way bigger @$$h0le than Lebron.

    All elite athletes have that confidence, sometimes(check it; a lot of times) arrogance in their abilities. This is nothing new.

  • The Seed

    With the Lakers from 1998 to 2003 the 5 year stretch I am
    talking about is his greatest years ever in the NBA for him.
    Besides that the Magic were not going anywhere execpt being swept in the NBA Finals and after be kicked out of LA after the NBA finals lost, he became a journey man chasing a ring. Getting one with Wade in REF-GATE. This hurt his legacy also playing with Phx, Cavs and Boston after leaving Miami.

    But Jackson also shared that anecdote as evidence that despite his four rings, three-time Finals MVP, one regular season MVP and 28,596 career points, the man with a million nicknames grossly underachieved. “This is a guy who could and should have been the MVP player for 10 consecutive seasons,” Jackson told Kriegel-latimes.com.

    Phil Jackson feels he underacheived. Also Shaq played with the Lakers from 1996-2004 and got 3 rings and 1 MVP, as the suppose most dominated center ever. OK, then what happened those other years. I know he did not work on his craft or game. He never worked hard in the offseason. Trust me, I read everything on latimes.com and other Lakers blogs to know the 411. Its alot of stuff people don’t know about Shaq, if you did not read info from the website that interviewed him on the regular and had inside information on him. The company time comment, puts his career the way I see it. Everything was done because he did it because he could, but he never had that demand on himself to be the greatest. Shaq should have been so much more and to act like just because he averaged 28 for a 10 year stretch were no one could guard him, makes him great. Not to me.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i hate to break it to you Seed, but under achieving and being better than everyone else are different things.

  • SGM

    Looking at WS/48 and usage, MJ and Lebron are in a category of their own (MJ higher WS/48 but also higher usage).

    I also like to have Bill Russell in the conversation: leadership is something that people never talk about but is a key ingredient to winning, and Russell may have been the greatest leader of all.

  • tuffgong

    lebron is my favorite player in the nba. but things like this is just unnecessary. just play without talking lebron. please. he is going back to his EGOmaniac self after winning two championships. if LeBron does not win this year and also lose the MVP to Durant. i think it will be good for him. be humble again and have a phenomenal season next year.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    Exactly! How is that a bad thing?!

    Bird: 13 seasons averaging 24/10/6, 3 rings, 3 MVPs, 9x All-NBA.
    Magic: 13 seasons averaging 19/7/11, 5 rings, 3 MVPs, 9x All-NBA
    James: 11 seasons averaging 27/7/7, 2 rings, 4 MVPs, 7x All-NBA and throw in 5x All-Defensive NBA 1st team (to Magic and Larry’s 0) and I really don’t think he’s that far off despite only being 29.
    He’s definitely not there yet, but people on this board are acting like he has no chance of getting there.

  • The Seed

    My Top 5 Centers All Time is Kareem, Hakeem, Wilt, Bill and Moses Malone. So who would you take off to put Shaq on. I can make an argument Tim Duncan has had a better career as a Center/PF than Shaq.

  • pposse

    MJ never spoke in hyperbole which is pretty much what LBJ has been doing lately, MJ spoke literally telling the world after his 91 campaign that he was the king of the hill and that anyone who was trying to take his spot at the top would have to go through him. Until Lebron goes off on a limb and says something like that his quotes mean nothing! He kind of got there when he said the Big O needs to take a back seat but he should have included Magic and Bird in his assessment.

  • bike

    In terms of accomplishments, he’s on schedule to be named one of the greatest. Number of championships is the only thing left that will separate him from everyone else.

    But he should dial back the bragging. He’s fueling the Pacer’s motivation and they could be the single biggest obstacle Miami faces not only this year but in the next few years to come. Stay thirsty LeBron, but be humble.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i mean depends on your criteria. if you want to make a case that Duncan had a better career than Shaq, then that same exact criteria will show that Shaq was better than both Moses and Hakeem.

    Personally, if we are talking about “greatest” my Centers go,

    Kareem, Russell, Wilt, Shaq, Hakeem – (Moses)

    if “best” my Centers go,

    Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq, Russell – (Moses)

  • The Seed

    Now put Kobe stats in there, its not close. Kobe is missing the MVP’s, but Shaq and him took MVP’s away from each other in there 8 year run together. Wade can’t stop Lebron from winning MVP’s, because people see Wade as a sort of Pippen now. Kobe was never seen that way, because he played GREAT. Shaq should have 2-3 MVP’s and Kobe should have 2 MVP’s maybe 3, when he took Smush, Walton, Brown and Odom to Playoffs in a tough West that year where he averaged about 35 points a game.

  • The Seed

    I respect your comment, but we can agree to disagree. I just can’t put Shaq in my top 5 Centers All Time. He didn’t make one ALL-NBA Defensive First Team EVER in a 19 year career, that’s a big hit in my book.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    that’s fair. i just don’t like the reasoning that because he didn’t maximize his potential, that he gets docked points. i mean, we could say the same thing about Wilt…….sh*t, Wilt would have said the same thing about Wilt. but the defensive argument i respect, Shaq was incredibly lazy on that end. He’s very fortunate his prime didn’t happen after 2005, because pick and rolls would have done major damage to his legacy.

  • The Seed

    I can agree with that statement about Wilt, but his stats kill Shaq to me. You can say Shaq was the modern day Wilt, but Wilt did more with being the biggest most dominate player at Center to me in his stretch compared to Shaq.

  • havoc33

    Shaq used to drive Tex Winter CRAZY with his lack of pick&roll D. It hurt the Lakers on more than one occasion. Shaq simply didn’t put forth the effort to be great on the defensive end. It usually picked up a bit come playoff time, but he still had some major lapses.

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  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah, i mean he was a good rim protector, especially when he was younger. but that part of his game was a major weakness. he was very fortunate to play in the era that he did.

  • havoc33

    Who can forget about him refusing to play D because he wasn’t getting enough touches on offense. Only Shaq, lol

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    I agree. Kobe’s right there as well. 18 years of 25/5/5 are insane. What he lacks in leadership, he almost makes up for in his ability to remain “elite” for so long.

    Did Kobe and Shaq “take MVPs from each other”? Possibly, but they also benefited from being the 2 best basketball players on the same team, which was made apparent by their 4 finals appearances and 3 rings, so you can’t really use that as an argument.

    “Wade can’t stop LeBron from winning MVPs because people see him as a sort of Pippen”. Wade can’t stop LeBron from winning MVPs because there is a HUGE distance between him and LeBron, and there has been for the past 2.5 years. Let’s be real, Wade and Bosh didn’t get LeBron his rings, the same way Worthy and Kareem didn’t get Magic his rings, and Mchale, Parish, and DJ didn’t get Larry his rings.

  • havoc33

    yeah, I’ve got Kobe ahead of him still as well. If Lebron can win another two chips then it’s a different story. He’ll never overtake MJ though. The narrative and performance come playoff time simply does not compare.

  • Saleem Rainman

    Shaq isnt on ur top 5 all time cuz ur a Kobe boy. There is no other logical reason.

  • shockexchange

    Armed with “The Rules” and back-to-back chips, the Kang needs a way to motivate himself. This statement is one more thing for him to shoot for.

  • Saleem Rainman

    You go ahead and tell me when the last time a player on a 7th seeded team won the MVP award. Ill wait.

  • Saleem Rainman

    he COULD make it to that top 4, he is only 29.

    Im just glad we’re talking about him being top 4 now, and not the greatest of all time…

  • The Seed

    Read below, I made it clear.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Find some room for Shaq in your top 3 or 4 please… Maybe in your spare time.

  • Sérgio

    Why do you think Hakeem was better than Shaq?

  • Feez_22

    Lebron has been talking like a straight up douche this yr… like more than regular.

  • The Seed

    Here you go, Just thought of this one. Kobe deserved it with that talent he had. Nash had a great team and still Lost!!!
    Pettit was a MVP winner, the only MVP winner in NBA history from a team with a losing record.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    well, in the “best” conversation, (to me) it revolves around how good a player was as an all around player at the height of their powers. Hakeem, in 1993-94, and 1994-95 we able to completely dominate a game on both ends of the court, while totally destroying some of the best individual defensive centers the league has ever seen.
    the “best” argument between Shaq and Moses Malone is probably the closest one. i know that contradicts me having him behind Russell, but my feelings for Bill Russell as a basketball player are very complicated. i’ve only recently put Kareem over him in the “greatest” debate (i prefer the “greatest” conversation to the “best” debate) honestly because of our boy JTaylor and his argument for Kareem as the GOAT. it changed the way i look at KAJ’s career.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Gotta love ESPN. How they manufacture these topics and we eat from their palms….

  • Avery Smith

    Mr. James is a well-accomplished athlete-certainly the kryptonite to any teams superman; however, like the “real” Mount Rushmore-located in Keystone, South Dakota-the NBA’s Mount Rushmore is already established. Secondly, Mount Rushmore has 4 presidents, thus the NBA’s Mount Rushmore would have 4, as well. Therefore, and with all due respect, allow me to provide the schematic for the NBA’s Mount Rushmore:

    George Washington – Jerry West (Finals MVP on a losing team, the NBA Logo)
    Thomas Jefferson – Bill Russell (11 rings in 13 seasons, 3 years as player coach)
    Theodore Roosevelt – Kareem A-Jabbar (6 rings, all-time leading scorer, 19 x allstar)
    Abraham Lincoln – Michael Jordan (6 rings, 1st to win both MVP and DOPY in a career)

    After reading the stats next to those names above, when I say the following, you will agree, Bron’s arms too short to box with the gods-they don’t kill players-they only kill squads.

    Therefore, my fellow slam readers, I’d suggest, rather than scheming to re-write history, Mr. James look upon the NBA’s Mount Rushmore, and draw inspiration to make a better life for himself, as the rest of us mortals do.

  • Blarmac

    Well put.

  • Saleem Rainman

    …anddd how long ago was that…?

  • Saleem Rainman

    ill retract that statement,because TECHNICALLY an argument can be made for all those 5 guys ahead of shaq. You wont win the argument, but it can still be made, i guess.

    I just feel like Shaq was so DOMINANT, that to not have him up wud be kinda weird.

  • The Seed

    LOL, you stated it, I gave answer.

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  • Saleem Rainman

    my point was that in todays NBA guys that are on teams that are not contenders dont get the MVP. U just proved it by saying the only guy that comes to ur mind was Pettit.

  • TR

    How is the most dominant center of the last 30-40 years not top 5. Shaq gets no respect from people

  • LakeShow

    Slow Clap for Seed, and nbk.

    Great debate fellas.

    LeBron can/will certainly enter the Rushmore convo.

    Not yet though. So shut up.

  • Harvey

    Was just gonna say the same thing. He’s probably scratched the top 10 now.
    But Mt. Rushmore?? …. please…
    He just needs to play the game. Everything else will fall into place in the end.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    LOL the last 2 lines of your comment are golden!

  • TR

    I think LeBron is already a top 5 all-time player. The only knock I really have on LeBron and his team is their lack of dominance. When you’re as good as he is and on a team with as much talent as they’ve had, you would expect at least one dominant run to a ship.

  • JJ Jones

    Its fine that lebron is confident and all but would really have the balls to make this kind of statement if ray Allen’s 3 happened to rim out? That one shot may just have changed the course of history on how lebron would be received.

  • Sérgio

    I feel you.

    But I think people base their arguments on Hakeem based on only two years. While they were superb, Shaqs 10 year period that you mentioned is much more strong, to me, for argument’s sake.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I agree. That’s why I like to make my two separate lists, everyone else can be vague about their reasoning, but I like to be open about mine

  • DJ_BobbyPeru

    He may be right when all is said and done, but its not exactly classy to say stuff like that before it is true. To be fair, though, the interviewer did ask him “Are you up there?”, and he just said what he felt.

  • Redd

    He never said he’s aiming to be the best ever..lol.

  • Redd

    Lebron is just easily obnoxious & easy to not like.

    From his annoying a** dunk contest crap to his Decision. He’s just annoying & it’s not hard to laugh at his hyperbole.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    not in this interview. but he has said that

  • Ugh

    He’s neck and neck with Dr J in my opinion. That’s at about tenth of the top ten, yeah.

  • playa

    “assuming of course that he’s not already there?” that part of the last sentence, i find it troubling…I may be wrong but putting Bron Bron on places 1-4 all time already is like saying Kobe is still the better player of the two.Fantasy, not reality.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    some people’s “Mt. Rushmore” is about how good players were at their very peak…..and (i don’t like or support this argument) an argument can be made that LeBron at the height of his powers (reference: 2011-12 – 2012-13 seasons/playoffs) were/are about as dominant as any player in NBA history has ever been.

  • Redd

    Yeah that’s what I meant, in this article he said his aim is top 4.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Dagger didn’t say he said that in this interview either

  • 23

    He was asked a question. He’s answering with confidence. It’s not crazy to think he can be a top 4 player ever. Why cant he be candid in an interview?

  • TripleDouble

    First he says he’d win the dunk contest (remember when he stole the attention a few years back during the dunk contest and announced he WOULD compete the next year – only to not) and now this… Lebron is still a total dickhead, will always be a total dickhead… Makes you realise how dope Durant is (and Rose).

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    right! normal interviews should just be this,


    the talking nonsense is unnecessary.

  • pposse

    its all good to talk on the court if you got something like this to say:

    On the biggest possession of the game, Muggsy had the ball with the Hornets down one. Jordan backed off of him and told him, ‘Shoot it, you f***ing midget.’ Muggsy shot it, didn’t come close. A year later Muggsy actually told Johnny Bach that he believes that single play ruined his career. His shot never recovered.

  • Mack

    LOL ” I actually feel bad for Wade and Bosh, they will become side-notes in their careers now.” You don’t think Bosh and Wade aren’t the two happiest people in the world having LeBron on their team? FOH. LeBron is a beast and is happy to share it with the world. Durant is likely winning MVP this year but LeBron’s career is already among the most legendary ever. Please curb the ignorance.

  • 2chainz

    Kobe said this to Smush Parker:

    “I had a workout with the Lakers, beat all the guards out for the starting position, earned a spot on the team,” Parker told Hard 2 Guard. “Midway through the first season, I tried to at least have a conversation with Kobe Bryant — he is my teammate, he is a co-worker of mine, I see his face every day I go in to work — and I tried to talk with him about football. He tells me I can’t talk to him. He tells me I need more accolades under my belt before I come talk to him. He was dead serious.”

    Don’t ever say LeBron is arrogant.

  • whynot?

    Why do I anticipate that with every LeBron article written–no matter the subject–there will be remarks about Jordan, bird, Magic, Kobe etc? I may have prophetic talents.

  • thebossman15

    if you just wanna forget the fact that he said that behind closed doors(god knows what other players say behind closed doors), the fact that he had to show up to practice everyday with parker,walton,mihm,kwame brown..arguably the most pathetic supporting cast of all time for a dude like kobe who is one of the goats and was in his prime looking to win and was probably pissed everyday just looking at those bums.. and throw in the fact that there was no time frame for the exact date that this exchange happened(i donno maybe a blowout loss in which kobe had to drop 60 for that “team” to even have a chance…then maybe you would have a point

  • Let down

    LeBron is starting to sound like Kanye West. What a let down. I’m giving my jersey away. No one likes someone who has to toot their own horn. SMH

  • Busta213

    How do you quantify that position? Dr J’s gaudiest numbers all came in the ABA

  • 2chainz

    I never heard Lebron say these things when he had no help…if your the leader of the team stand up and be a leader.

  • 2chainz

    I would take Shaq in his prime over Duncan any day of the week.

  • 2chainz

    Shaq had 3 finals MVP’s and those were back to back to back on a 3-peat.

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  • Matisse

    Humility is a overrated virtue.

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  • Conor

    Say those things? James abandoned his team after showering them with feigned affection for years. What is difficult about that to understand for so many people?

    Leadership is something the present-day generation of superstars learned from Kobe in 2007 and 2008 with the Olympic team. They were humbled by his dedication and followed suit.

  • robb

    I’m with you posse.

  • davidR

    you got a link to this discussion of kareem as the goat? im curious

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Idk if this is the one, but this is one of them where JTaylor makes a case http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/02/lebron-james-had-a-remarkable-game-in-milwaukee/

  • A Ranger’s Milk

    He’s comin for that number 1 spot.

  • grgeblck

    It really depends on how you define greatest, Lebron. Ben wallace would be on my list, but that’s just my opinion. Don’t come barking at me.

  • grgeblck

    That’s why I like Wade more than anyone of them.

  • nbk troll

    Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan!!!!
    From 1990-2009 These guys won every championship except 4! And two of the four were when MJ retired. Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell, Magic and Bird were good, but they didn’t do it against the same caliber of comp. Think about all the greats from 1990-2009 who don’t have rings or got them later as a role player. (Barkley, Malone, the Glove, Tim Hardaway, C-Webb, Reggie Miller, ZO, Nash, Nique,Iverson, Vince Carter, T-Mac, Grant Hill, Glen Rice, Marbury

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  • Interdico Scriptor

    Say it the end of the 4th. The last few seconds of the game. If a shooter shoots at the buzzer so the shot is out of his hands before the end of the game… AND he’s fouled after the siren, say on the landing, when time has expired – what happens there?

  • melvo

    Lebron’s been making a lot of bold statements in the last couple months. Good for him, I guess. At least he’s able to back up his talk with his performance and accolades.

  • melvo

    Guys, who cares. Mt Rushmore is just a cover up for the City of Gold. At least, that’s what that sh*tty National Treasure movie told me.

  • Interdico Scriptor

    Awesome. have u got my email? if u got a minute, can you show me a link (or two) to help me me with expanding my bball knowledge. I’m interested in PER, Points +/- defencive ???(I forget what u call it) and the other things you, Lake et al all seem to believe in (and emphatically: so yeah, what do u recommend?
    Also, look, this is a general apology to all the SLAM online regulars… I’m here to learn; not to be pushing my brothers (at sisters) buttons with attitude… yes, even Nathan Shane Long LOL ANOTHER thing.
    Why the emphasis on so many threes? Is it just me or has the NBA (and therefor basketball) changed? seriously, what used to be GOOD fouls, are now tech fouls. I see the players in positions ALL THE TIME that are NOT (IMO) even close toa foul… let alone a tech. It’s ridiculous. These are massive dudes, 80 to 150kg, so LET THEM PLAY.
    I’ve seen Blake fouled out of too many games for the stupidest calls; and not just him. I see the refs just this year alone are responsible for messing up/interfering with what, 10 games? AND THAT”S JUST THE ONES I SEE (2-5 per diem)…

  • thebossman15

    you dont need much help to go to the playoffs and contend in the east especially back then..and its alot easier to lead the players lebron has played with..kobe played with a bunch of dudes who wouldnt even thrive in the d-league, you cant lead just anyone, hes lead his team to the ring 5 times so hes clearly the better leader regardless

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    Random comment

  • RKJ92

    I believe James also has a scoring title you forgot about, back when he was averaging over 30ppg a game ;) just to add to that nice list you have going on there haha

  • Shooting Guard

    that game winner on the warriors last night was on point

  • pposse

    just think about that for a second, if Lebron did not go to Miami and ended up still in cleveland or went to a team with himself and maybe one other superstar/all star talent the nba would have been wide open. A whole bunch of teams could have won a ring and that most definitely includes a team with Wade as the showcase. Wade is the most under appreciated superstar in the game and its a shame. Ofcourse this year his actions are fueling all that as he’s hurt and is deciding to miss games, but no one is talking about how at least 6 of the 14 games they lost this year was when Wade was not playing, that team is average without Wade but he’s a side note so most don’t even know or care about his impact anymore.

  • Elchinas

    Bill Russell is looking at you, Lebron.

  • kc

    Name me one great player in any sport throughout history this hasn’t had an ego? Everyones hero and god like figure, His Holiness Saint Michael Jordan was one of the most egotistical pricks you will ever meet.

    If you actually watch the interview instead of reading a few lines from it. You will see that it was all very tongue in cheek and said in a joking manner.

  • X

    Shaq lead 3 of those teams and you know it. Stop it. This is why people dismiss so many of your comments. Being a blind fan and having revisionist views does not help your argument. It was Shaq’s team. His teammates acknowledged him as the leader. So no, Kobe isn’t the better leader. He and Lebron have the same amount of Final’s MVPs. And leaving in free agency isn’t abandonment. Guys leave teams all the time. It’s not rocket science, it’s employment. And Lebron never told a teammate he was too good to have friendly convo with him. Kobe is a douche.

  • …dot

    Showering them with attention? He was friendly with the guys he worked with and shared the road with. Is that really so hard for you to understand? Being an anti-social, entitled douche to the people you work closest with is not a display of leadership. Lebron came into the league being well liked. He didn’t stand outside of his huddle, like your idol, just because a more well liked player was leading the pregame rally.

    That pretty little picture you’re painting leaves out the fact that unlike Kobe, the present day susperstars came into the league at helms of their own ships. They didn’t have the luxury of watching from the bench. You act like Kobe forever changed their lives. Kobe is an all time great player, but that’s where the buck stops. He was the old guy on the team in terms of stars. Don’t try to spin his public image into the hero he is in your head.

  • jessedogg

    If we are talking about the skill base it takes to play the game of basketball.. There’s Kareem, Hakeem, Russel, Robinson and then everyone else. Take their height/mass away and they still would impact a game. Can’t say that about the other winners of genetic lottery.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    nah i didn’t get any e-mail. you want me to send you links so that you can research this stuff, or what?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    can’t say i really care, you can’t take someone’s genetic makeup away from them. so i’m not going to pretend like that matters.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the shot counts if it goes in, but the foul does not.

  • Free

    His performances in the finals are extremely overlooked and underrated imo

  • Free

    I find both of your lists extremely hard to disagree with I cant even think of another center to mention tbh

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i appreciate that. i’ve put a lot of thought into this issue

  • King David

    smh this guy sucks……..

  • thebossman15

    Shaq and kobe needed each other for rings 2 and 3 and you know it, dont be a clown..theres a stat where shaq scored something like 70% of his points in the first half during the playoffs and kobe would completely take over the 2nd half of the games and hit all the big shots. You obviously did not watch the games, but since you like lebron your probably all about stats so go take a look at kobe’s during their 2nd and 3rd playoff run, you cant be sane and think kobe wasnt just as big a reason as shaq was in winning their rings

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  • toejam6222

    lebron just wants to hold himself accountable, with people falling back on this quote and bringing it up to lebron hell remember he’s not done, hes saying that two championships is not enough hes basically just saying he wants to carve his face into the history of the NBA.

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