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Friday, March 6th, 2009 at 11:00 am  |  39 responses

D-Wade, Enjoying the MVP Chatter

And deservedly so: “In a rare moment of MVP candor, Wade said he has given serious reflection about how the honor should be determined. ‘Most Valuable player to his team, simple as that,’ he said. ‘I’m not taking anything from Kobe last year. I thought he was unbelievable. I thought he should have won MVPs in previous years. But I thought Chris Paul was the most valuable player to his team last year, from the way he played and what he meant to that team. You’ve got to take a guy off a team and say, ‘If he wasn’t on there, how would this team be?’ and see everything he brings to his team. That’s my interpretation of what a most valuable player is. But everyone has their different takes.’ Wade, though, stressed that elevating the Heat to a higher playoff seeds remains the priority. ‘The MVP, it’s always exciting talk, but it’s not a focal point of mine,’ he said. ‘My focal point is making sure this team gets over that hump. If we do what we’re supposed to do, then we can talk about it later. I’m going to continue to enjoy these last 22 games with people saying LeBron, Kobe and possibly D-Wade.’”

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  • Jackie Moon

    Translation: Kobe got shafted those years when he was the best. Even if my team doesn’t win 50 games, I should still be the MVP.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    ^what he said

  • Sari

    ^what he said

  • Gumdrop

    Would the Cavs be a playoff team without Lebron? I think no.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    That argument is flawed. I’ve never believed in penalizing someone because his teammates are good. Yes, LA makes the playoffs w/o Kobe. So? I still think LeBron is the MVP because he makes his teammates better AND dominates the game. But the fact that the Lakers are talented shouldn’t be held against Kob.

  • Squirrel7

    Would the Lakers make the playoffs without Kobe, really? Sure, they’ve a lot of good players, but they are in the much-tougher Western Conference, and I guess you also have to factor in who would be playing instead of Bryant (would it be another star, hypothetically, or are you talking about someone like Sasha starting?!!)

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    its nice hes officially “in the conversation” but we all know who’s getting it this year, it was predetermined. just like 03-04 roy

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=243084247 Witness

    ok.. so shouldnt we consider kevin martin and danny granger as mvp cnadidates?

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=243084247 Witness

    or even david lee? how about naming eric gordon rookie of the year? his theory is completely wrong. he just wants to win it.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=243084247 Witness

    now players like chauncey billups and tim duncan are those who should be mentioned.

  • http://slam weezyleezy

    u can always make a case for certain guys like granger or chauncey, but mvp gotta be the best of the best. those guys make the all-nba team. kobe and lebron could win it every year, just like michael jordan coulda won EVERY year. but they like to spread the award out a little i guess

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=243084247 Witness

    spread the award out? wtf? and put a dishonor to it? … oh here you go stephon marbury. your career stats look good and you havent won it yet.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=243084247 Witness

    wade is elite but he doesnt deserve it under his circumstances. lets stick to giving it to difference making players with nice stats on contending teams.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=243084247 Witness

    but if i had to picl an mvp not named kobe or lebron i would say: B-B-B-B-Billups!

  • L33tSauce

    You say you can’t penalize a guy for good teamates but you can for bad ones? Now you guys sound like the NBA officials with those double standards. Take Lebron off the Cavs, still have a shot at 7th or 8th in the weak east. I’m not calling that a guarantee, but they still have a shot. Now take Wade off the Heat. They would be the WORST team in the NBA. Hell, when he was injured they only managed 15. Take him away? I’m gonna say 9-10 wins.

    2008 MVP- CP3
    2009 MVP- Wade

    And when was Koe ever screwed out of an MVP? V stands for valuable, not best. Kobe in his day did what Wade does now except he NEVER helped his teamates when he was putting up scoring figures between 28-30. (I don’t include his year he averaged 35 points considering he took about 28 shots a game).

  • L33tSauce

    And way to be a drama queen witness. Since when has ben gordon or david lee dominated a game?
    When have they ever put up 24 in a fourth quarter with the game on the line? Or the performances only Wade and lebron could put up?(Not to hate on Kobe, but he can’t do it all in a game like Wade or Lebron.)

    Take the clevland heat game the other night. Who was the one doing more for their team? Wade. He was dominating the game all night and winning. Now why did they lose? Not thanks to Lebron, but Mo Williams going off in the final minutes. Why is it Lebron gets his teams credit though? Anyone wo can sit out an entire 4th quarter, their team obviously isn’t that bad off.

  • Blinguo

    Wade knows his place as the 3rd most votes, undue or on the flipside unappreciated in the voting tallies and gives props to CP3′s snubbing as #2 while acknowledging the “lifetime achievement award” aspect of it for Kobe. He’ll get one eventually, being that wised-up already. He’ll be content with that “stolen” or not Finals MVP and will still go all out.

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan13

    Wade should be MVP
    and as much as i love Chauncey, hes not MVP.
    hes playing to inconsistent right now and isn’t as reliable as before. when Melo goes out of the game the Nugs are in trouble. not sayin Billups isnt helpful fot the nuggets but thes not the MVP

  • .

    kobe didnt get it when he averaged 30 points and 6 assists one season and scored 81. they didnt give it to him becuase of the lakers record

    if kobe didnt get it then wade wont get it now

  • http://www.blogs.myspace.com/orignadro Witness

    im just saying. the man turned that team around. he put them in title contention.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign “.”

  • L33tSauce

    Actually Kobe got his 81 in 2006, not 02-03 when he averaged 30 and 6. He averaged 35 and 4.5 that year, and like i said, averaged nearly 28 shots a game. If wade took 28 shots a game he’d be at 35.5 with his shooting percentage, not including the fact he’d arguably draw an extra foul or two taking more shots. And its not the stats that matter regardless.

    In 2006 when Kobe didn’t win, Steve Nash did. And hell, we had no idea how much he really was making people better till they parted with him. Nash deserved it. Wade helps his team tremendously, more than lebron or kobe have ever had to this season.

    (Tell Lebron or Kobe to keep their team over .500 with no big man and two rookies playing big minutes. Kobe’s shown he can’t haul a team alone.)

  • .

    l33tsauce-

    are you forgetting when kobe took a line up of kwame, smush, luke, etc to the playoffs and took the suns to a 7 game series. kobe DID haul that team alone

    how can you say wade has helped his team tremendously and say kobe / lebron has ever had to? have you seen EVERY SINGLE lakers and cavs game to undeniably say that he hasn’t helped the team. just because you have big men does not mean you are automatically successful heck look at the clippers. they have camby and are they successful? no.

  • .

    and sorry if it didn’t come across clearly meant the averaging 30 and 6 and the 81 point game as seperate seasons

  • giogolo

    All 3 guys are capable right now in their careers to give out MVP performances every single game. It’s just a matter of whether they “feel” the need to. Motivation is a very big factor for NBA players. Look at MJ when he retired the 1st time and then came back the 2nd time.

    LJ right now clearly want his teammates to get their game going esp. coming into the playoffs b4 he has to up his ante. KObe although he wants to dont neccsarily have to dish out hi-level game each time bcoz his team ryt now have the most formidable line-up. Wade on the other hand has just got to every game coz his MIA’s big men suck and they arent deep at the pt. He ven has to play pt. often.
    So there..w’all just gotta w8 4 d playoffs..and see who really is even after the award is given.

    The other is having quality team players around you and your team actually looking like a playoff contender during the regular season enough for the NBA to consider you more.

  • http://www.basketballjerseyworld.com NBA-JERSEY-KING

    D Wade has got to be MVP this season – from last place to possibly 4th in the East with a good chance at making the 2nd round if the Heat play the Hawks…

  • BostonBaller

    MVP means Media Voting Preferences. We could argue all day and night about the 3 of them and a couple of others deserving or not deserving the award and each one of us would have valid points to back u who we liked better (or worshipped by reading some of this stuff. lol)You take any superstar off of his team and that team either sucks or suffers tremendously. Each guy can carry a team or score 40 and drop 10 dimes AND rebound so this is good barbershop talk. lol

    Dang!! My Celtics lost!!

  • L33tSauce

    And your ignoring the fact that Steve Nash made people like Raja Bell and Shawn Marion good(notice without him they are mediocre?). Not to mention that the playoffs have no say in MVP or any other award. If it did my man Wade would have ben rookie o the year in 03-04. And i like how you conveniantly leave out Lamar Odom, who is a monster(Love watching that guy play).

    I’m willing to say Kwame and Smush aren’t all that different from Chris Quinn and Joel Anthony. I mean come on, did you even know who Joel Anthony was before the season? And we had him starting. lmao

    The other thing idk if you realize or not is that your just making the case for wade. You say Kobe was screwed out of MVP that year(Nash deserved it) But wade is managing the offense Kobe did(and while shooting the ball better), and helping his teamates be relevant more than Kobe ever did. Flash for MVP.

  • Adrian Bond

    Who is better, Kobe Bryant or DeWayne Wade?? My vote id for Kobe, hands down!! Although I wish we could get either one to Memphis!!…..Hopeful thinking, huh??………………….Adrian Bond

  • Adrian Bond

    Or better yet, who would you rather have, DeWayne Wade or Lebron James??…That’s a tough one! But I still would love either one in Memphis!!…Adrian Bond

  • Jack

    I’m with Witness about Chauncey making the Nugs a contender, but even so, Melo is still that team’s MVP, Chauncey just fits in a whole lot better than AI.

  • BostonBaller

    If you take Melo away from the Nuggets Chauncy would still have them playing well. Take Chauncey away and they fall on their face. That doesn’t mean he is better than Melo just more valuable (b/c he is the point and can create for everyone as opposed to Melo having to create for himself. I’m a Melo fan (on the court not off)

  • http://www.myspace.com/bencamerondavis Bencamerondavis

    The honest truth is that the guy that said that 2009 MVP is predetermined just like the 2003-04 hit it right on the money… Although Wade’s team was alot better than James in his rookie season, after carrying the Heat to the second round of the playoffs… James was crowned MVP… And it’s sad that the fans are so biased that they don’t see anything wrong with that… if 2003-04 standards for the rookie of the year were like the same as this years MVP, then Wade should win it… Actually he should win it regardless…. I think the problem comes when Kobe fans only watch the Lakers, or when Cleveland fans only watch the Cavs. Now if a person were to watch all of their games just as I have, they will know that Dwyane Wade is the MVP of the 2009 NBA SEASON!!!

    -Ben Cameron Davis

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Steve Nash did not make Shawn Marion good. That is exactly why Shawn wanted to leave the Suns.

  • alex

    what in the world, kobe averages over 30, take a team made of KWAME BROWN AND SMUSH PARKER STARTING to 7 games against the suns, wins over 40 games and doesn win mvp.
    DWADE will win less games this year, average less points (probably) and he has a better team, and suddenly he is in the mvp voting? give me a break, if you want to talk about making people better, kobe made KWAME BROWN and SMUSH seem like legitimate playoff threats against one of the better teams in the league at that time. i get dwade has a better image but this is getting rediculous

  • L33tSauce

    And AllenP when has marion been relevant since leaving the suns? 12 and 7 is pretty mediocre for a guy geting 17 million. Nash made him better.

  • ybg

    with all due respect, shawn marion was an all star once before steve nash arrived in phoenix the second time; i wouldnt argue that steve nash made shawn marion better, he did but the entire suns offence got a face lift from the dantoni offence. i would even argue that marion received more ‘attention’ because he played on the steve nash offence; marion played at a relatively consistant level from his second season to his second to last in phoenix (though his shooting percentage went up significantly in the nash mvp years)

    dude mentioning billups shouldnt be the mvp is off, he shouldnt even be in the discussion though hes led the nuggets far better than carmelo and ai ever could together

    as far as wade being the mvp, i dont know but im not sold on that, i wouldnt say hes lifting up his teammates and making them better, its more like hes carrying them on his back; im not so sure lbj or kobe couldnt carry that same sorry bunch like dwayne wade has, theyre both capable and both that good

    of the three id say wade carries his bunch, kobe doesnt need to carry his team his supporting cast is in the upper echelon and with them theyre one of the few truly elite teams, lbj makes his teammates that much better and the level he has his team playing at is ridiculous, their record is nuts but i guess hes just that good

    every year the mvp ends up being a pack of candidates at the all star break, then the media whittles out some candidates and people sit there at home and go along with what they say, the regular season mvp really was watered down for a few years when it was just politics

  • Adrian Bond

    Dewayne Wade is stating his for the NBA MVP. Boy could the Memphis Grizzlies use him! Now that Coach Calipari is leaving the Memphis Tigers for Kentucky, I guess I need to get acquainted with the Grizz again….

    Adrian Bond
    Memphis

  • Adrian Bond

    DeWayne Wade or Kobe, or Lebron would be a good fit anywhere including Memphis!
    So who am I fooling??

    Adrian Bond
    Memphis

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