Thursday, June 14th, 2012 at 9:50 am  |  59 responses

Dwyane Wade Knows He’s Not the Player He Used to Be

It’s often said, and often true, that professional athletes are the last ones to know when their skills and once-limitless athleticism begin to decline. Dwyane Wade, however, appears to be an exception. From ESPN: “I’m not that athletic as I was in 2006. But I still have something in me. I still have some left in me. I wish it was possible to stay at that same athleticism as I was at 24, but that’s not possible.’ [...] Wade pressed through the playoffs, averaging 22.9 points, 5.0 rebounds, 4.1 assists, 1.7 steals, 1.3 blocks and 39.1 minutes per game entering the Finals. While those overall numbers are solid, there have been legitimate concerns about Wade’s pattern of slow starts. Against Boston, Wade attributed his struggles to get to the basket to a swarming defense that sent two players his way. [...] ‘It’s still Dwyane Wade, right?’ James Harden quipped Wednesday. ‘He can still score the ball. He still can get it done. We can’t take that for granted. We just can’t allow him to get off. He’s capable of doing it at any moment.’ [...] Wade was asked Wednesday whether he fears he might soon reach a point where his body won’t respond no matter how hard he tries to regroup from a subpar performance. ‘One day it’ll happen,’ he said. ‘Father Time will knock on the door and tap me on the shoulder. But not right now.’”

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  • RKJ92

    What are the chances he’s traded if they don’t win the championship?

  • bdogg

    d-wade will be fine..everyone was saying kb was done as well and kb was blowing by harden this year. westbrook and durant are at another level right now. no harm no foul. flash will be fine!

  • Coggie13

    @RKJ92 the trade seems so obvious to us the fans in the cheap seats. I cannot imagine a franchise trading it’s one and only finals MVP. By now he surely has no trade clause in his contract.

  • Stevea

    If Miami loses, I can see the Heat trading Wade and Bosh for Howard plus filler and/or picks. It makes too much sense. They need two great players and better role players which they can find with the extra cap space and I doubt Orlando gets a better offer than that.

  • Ses


    You forget that KB had a reliable jumper, which opens up the lanes for him, and most don’t expect to be taken off the dribble by KB. Dwade uhhhhh, not so much!

  • juicy

    He’s only thirty and people are ready to put this man in a rocking chair. We all know you’re not as explosive as you used to be, but take the Jordan and Kobe approach, work on your jumper and develop a knowledge for the game that noone else has. Thats how you stay great even after your athleticism declines

  • bike

    In basketball years, he’s an old 30. A body can only take so many shoulder injuries, hard drives that result in hitting the floor, and getting hammered in the paint. He can’t fall back into becoming a jump shooter because he never has had a good jump shot to begin with.

  • tatenda

    howard is stayin wth th magic

  • Skrill

    He doesnt look comfortable out there

  • LA Huey

    β€˜It’s still Dwyane Wade, right?’ James Harden quipped

  • bonk

    Howard is staying wit the magic I agree

  • Sparker

    hmm, peeps were writing off dwade a few years back, and then the olympics happened. dude needs to get his mojo back. that’s it.

  • Ldub

    I think Wade should have worked extra hard on a jump shot. Kobe, Kidd, Mj etc. He would still be able to score without using as much effort and putting so much pressure on his body. We know what he used to be able to do, and loved him for that. Now its kinda like damn…dude looks somewhat mediocre.

  • http://slamonline.com Jones

    Makes you wonder, when Lebron James loses his athleticism, just how good will be? Hasen’t really got a jumper, hasn’t really got post moves…

  • Ldub

    As far as Howard staying in Orlando? Unless they bring in someone like Deron Williams, he is gone. And people thinking Miami just gonna up and trade Bosh/Wade for Howard, youre crazy. Not both of them anyways. Howard is too much of a drama queen to risk a trade for. Even with the great talent he is…he has somewhat dug himself into a hole with alot of organizations. Threw everyone under the bus. Players, coaches, GM, then all of a sudden it wasnt him, and he is staying cuz he is loyal? Who else would come over with Howard to make the money fit, and to please LBJ? I personally dont see it happening.

  • ClydeSays

    Wade has played about 38mpg and started for most of his 9 year career. All of the ‘Fall down, get up” was bound to catch up with him. He’s probably one of the more physical shooting guards of the past decade, but he’s paid a price for it. I can see him bouncing back, but I doubt he’d be able to sustain his career highs for any amount of time…

  • http://slamonline.com Caboose

    Wade is 30. Did everyone forget what manu did this postseason?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rwDluFZQmtQ Max

    You used to be somebody that I used to know..

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com albie1kenobi

    i bet he regrets falling down 7 times and getting up 8 now.

  • ctk

    23,5,4,2,n 1 …AINT NORMAL NUMBERS …he still a TOP7 PLAYER at worst n the league …Welcome to LeBron world …whatever u do ..its NEVER ENUFF

  • tpathi1

    Wade and or Bosh will not get traded this year if they lose the Finals!

  • Ldub

    thank you tpathi1. Everyone always tryna break up the band just cuz they not going platinum! Not every record is gonna be a hit. Its only been 2 years and these dudes have been to the finals both years. Still dont know how to play together and people expect them to just be able to put up 80pts, 30brds and 18 asts a night. Not gonna happen.

  • Kadavour

    albie1kenobi FTW! Dwayne’s super explosive style of play is going to catch up to him in a way that will have us comparing him to T-MAC instead of Kobe. The jury’s still out on Bron post transcendent athleticism. Dude’s footwork is atrocious (Boston GAME 6 was a beautiful thing to watch though). If a defender doesn’t have to worry about him blowing by, then you can count it as a good defensive possession. DWade should join Deron Williams in Brooklyn (he knows he wants the bright lights) if the Heat lose this series.

  • gmoney

    miami doesnt give a fu*k
    just look at the last play of the 3rd quarter game 1 finals
    heat blow big lead down by 1 shot clock is off
    dwade (sleepy dwarf) runs the clock down as lebron jockeys for high post position(pleads for foul,oscar worthy) then bosh(and 1..lebron,dwade and1) pops up begging for the ball and bricks a 3
    holy crap i havent laughed that hard in my life when lebron looks at dwade and says wtf and dwade says and1 wanted it
    they are all livin the dream in southbeach
    basketball is not on their mind
    the only mike lebron is is mike adams..comin up short lol
    nobody can stop russell
    hes going to be the heir to kobes throne in la la land and go back to where he belongs as one of the elite 2s in the L

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Hey fake Caboose, it’s getting a bit old. While I do agree with that statement regarding Manu, I just want to politely ask that you stop impersonating me. I find it flattering and funny at times, but you’ve got enough basketball knowledge that you don’t need to leech off of my reputation. You’ll have no problem building your own. Ok?

  • Dee

    This is what seperated the mamba from most players in the league. D Wade may be injured and probably thinking too much. He’s still effective and can give it to most teams but the Thunder are a younger bunch with a core of talented young players led by a 24 year old superstar. The Thunder seem to have another gear they can get to while the Heat and the rest of the teams don’t. Ever try playing against younger ballers? They have legs for days. You make up for that with toughness which the Heat lack. D Wade needs to figure it out and stop over thinking…father time does start knocking at players once they reach their 30′s but when you’re as athletic as Flash, he should be able to tweak his game and use his experience to make up for he can no longer do!

  • JMO

    ppl forget dwade is the franchise nd won the heat only champioship dwade a gamer yall disrespect a man tht give his all too the franchise a franchise tht only won 13 games with out him. Dwade will be dwade game 2

  • http://blackamericaweb.com charliewinning

    Westbrook, Rose, Blake, and to a lesser extent John Wall need pay close attention to Wade. Athleticism is awesome and gives great advantage when you’re young. However, if your game is largely dependent on it then do not plan to dominate for long. Kobe knew this. Jordan knew it. I think Lebron will make the proper adjustments when his athleticism starts to fade. I’m not sure about those other young guys. Maybe Rose will since his injury will likely never allow him to return to that same explosiveness as before.

  • Mack

    @Jones you gotta be kidding me? After LeBron’s athleticism is done he could play power forward or center while still being a playmaker… and for all those saying the Heat should trade if they lose y’all need to the STFU!! If they lose the Thunder were just a better team. You don’t have sign three franchise players then trade them two years later, you need to continue to build around them.

  • JML-G

    fans who think Heat should trade any of the big 3 clearly shouldnt watch NBA anymore or at least knowledge themselves

  • tpathi1

    charliewinning..how dare you say that about d rose! he will return to his form, and better!

  • Kobe

    The problem with not trading anyone from this team if they lose is…. Will they ever be able to beat the Thunder with this lineup?

  • http://blackamericaweb.com charliewinning

    tpathi!, I’m not a twelve year old girl with a crush on the guy, nor do I live in a fantasy world. I understand the severity of his injury and the impact that it has on many athlete’s careers.

  • B.C.

    Wade is garbage, always has been always will be. Most overrated player in NBA history. The man has been playing with the best player in the world for two years and can’t get it done. Lebron is the easiest player to play with, lets be ealistic he helped scrubs like Anderson Vareajo and Boobie Gibson average double figures. Trade wade let it be lebrons team.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    hey fake caboose. wheres my twin. i he onanther thread?

  • mackintosh

    wade is the worst hands down. they need to trade to get better, cuz everybody else is getting better. mike miller gone d wade gone. I like bosh but if he wants to stay i would sit him down and tell him i want the raptors bosh not a version of a black dirk. mario can stay and UD but a trade needs to go down, IF they want to get better. cuz i didn’t see them beating the bulls this year.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Better than Kobe…

  • Ldub

    @B.C….Wade is garbage? How can you say that about someone who has a championship and final mvp? I would love to hear your opinion on what makes him garbage. There have been plenty of greats that dont have a ring or finals mvp. I could give you a list but Im sure that since you made the statement of Wade being over rated that you already have a few placed above him. Some of them with a ring or the abilities that he has. Soooo Ill wait………..

  • http://fella1hoops.com fela1hoops

    Damn right he’s not the same player, I thought it was just me?

  • Ldub

    @makintosh…did you watch any raptor games? thats what Bosh does. he shoots. he is a finesse player! and his “black” skin shouldnt matter. you sound really stupid by making that comment. you could have just as easily left it at “Dirk”! And just a little nugget of knowledge for you…..None of these players are going to be able to be as dominant as they would be on a team by themselves. Their #s and productivity will drop simply because there is 1 ball. Youre not going to get a 22 and 10 player. Not when you have Bron and Wade on the squad as well. Not enough possessions. And to trade Wade would be simply stupid. You would not get back the same type of player/players in return. Regardless of his productivity this season, you dont trade a player like Wade because you didnt win the chip. For you to blame Miamis struggles all on Wade shows your level of intelligence towards the game of basketball to be quite simply put….low!

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Haha good to see you again bud. Please though, post as something a bit different, I like having my own identity ;) Seriously dude, you have good stuff to say. Why not come up with your own name?

  • B.C.

    Ldub, what makes wade that much better than a player like Brandon Roy? Absolutely nothing, he had one good season and that’s when he won a title against a sub par dallas Macs team, sub par why? Because he was being guarded by players like marquise Daniels and Jerry stackhouse. oh and another reason, wade didn’t make it past the second round after winning that title until lebron and bosh came to join him. That’s why he’s garbage and overrated, so @ldub won’t ever talk about the game of basketball ever again because I can clearly tell you have no played organized ball at any level in your life. That being said get off this website you bum.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^lol, people are so weird.
    Ban it!
    Exile him!
    Cancel this!
    Subsidize that!

  • Dee

    D Wade made his name during March madness…his play in that tourney made him a lottery pick. He was able to win a championship…he has the same amount of rings as Boston’s big 3 or the 2011 champ Mavs. Outside of the Allstar appearances and an Olypmic medal, what else has he done? He’s help carried the league, in a league always rearching for the next Jordan. He’s considered a top 10 player and unless his skills decline at a rapid rate he’ll be known as a top player. He or Lebron should probably play elsewhere, with players that compliment their skill set. D Wade should’ve gone to Chicago instead of thinking b/c he won that lone championship that he could bring another ring to southbeach…This time blame it on Durant and Westbrook and Hardin. These young guns mean business!

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    B.C. Calm down bud, we can all be civil here. Look, Wade is not a top 20 All Time player or anything like that. But he’s far from a bum and far from a Brandon Roy. Wade has a ring, Roy doesn’t. Wade averaged 30-8 for a season, Roy never came close. Wade is a solid defender. He’s not a “bum” but he’s certainly not a transcendent talent like Bron, Kobe, Duncan, KG, etc.

  • Ldub

    so because I make a claim that it would be completely idiotic to trade Wade, and I askd your opinion of why you feel he is overrated, I’m a bum and Ive never played organized ball? LOL thats a damn joke. I stay in leagues all year around. But just to show you that me or anyone else playing basketball in a league has absolutely nothing to do with NBA facts, let me break it down to you in a way that you can comprehend (this means understand).

    Dwyane Wade is in no way overrated. We all know the dude cant shoot, and has a below 30% 3pt career average. But youve yet to answer me and say why he is overrated. Look at his career stats. If you need help…just type in “dwyane wade stats” and they will appear in front of you like magic. Dude didnt have “one” good season. He has had many. So Daniels and Stackhouse played on the other nba teams as well? they just got transfrd from team to team to play against wade so he can drop 30? His best season was in 2008 where he racked up 30ppg. Regardless of the defense…you still have to take the shot and make the shot. push through the fouls and get the and 1 and then hit the freethrows. in addition to that…hes tops in steals ever year and hes tops on blocks (for a guard) every year.

    Youre so quick to give someone title of overrated when you cant do half the stuff he does. If so…your @$$ wouldnt be on SLAM cuz youd be balling right next to him. So with all do respect….YOU DONT KNOW SH!T!

    p.s. BRoy was a completely different type of player. His style was completely different. And him being 6’7 and not 6’4…you cant even compare the 2!

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    ^Grammar is your friend. TLDR version: Wade is better than Roy.

  • B.C.

    @Ldub, funny when little guys like you try sounding educated when you probably don’t have a high school diploma. Talking about you play in leagues year round, what are you trying to indicate? That you’re a hooper? That you’re nice at hoop? Get outta here son lol but enough about you back to the subject, why is Wade overrated? I just told you, the man hasn’t gotten past the first round since he won a title with Shaq until LeBron and Bosh came to Miami, and with those 2 guys he can’t even win and play alongside them,that’s why he is overrated, nothing special about him as a player, nowhere near a superstar. Question for you LDub, why are you trying to preach to me about basketball saying “push through the fouls and get the and 1 and then hit the freethrows” when you have never played organized basketball at any level. I’m a D1 basketball player so don’t try to teach me. And you’re saying you can’t compare Wade and Roy? THEY’RE THE SAME POSITION! Were you aware of that?? Clearly you aren’t. But yes you can compare the two. Like I said before don’t speak about ball when you’ve never played it.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    B.C. I’ll bet your scoring average is higher than your IQ. You can’t say, “Dude has a ring but he’s overrated.” Why is it ok to just ignore the fact that his career averages are close to Kobe’s? Or deny that he is an elite defender? Or forget that he has a Finals MVP? Why can you overlook all that? Is Deron Williams an average point guard? Is Chris Paul? Is KG a middling power forward because he didn’t get a ring until Boston?

  • B.C.

    @caboose, don’t ever try comparing wade to Kobe because Kobe is on a whole different planet when it comes to basketball than wade. Kobe Bryant has 5 titles and is the best player of his generation, if you think wade is anywhere near as good as Kobe you must be insane.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Did I ever say that Wade was equal to Kobe? He is not. However, you bring up titles as defense of Kobe yet you dismiss Wade’s title. How is that fair? And Duncan and Shaq both have better careers than Kobe. Just saying.

  • Chris S.

    Shaq better career than Kobe? Hell no. If you look at the physical tools that Shaq had, I would even stretch to say that the guy underachieved. If that is even possible with a guy that won 4 rings and 3 Finals MVPs. But the body of work that Kobe is leaving behind has already put him ahead of Shaq, and Kobe still has a few good more years to go.

  • KH10

    Anyone remember the indiana series less than a month ago? D Wade looked exactly like the flash of 2006. So quick to write players off after one slow game.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Chris. Stop dude.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    “one slow game.”
    Really? lol.
    Alright dood.

  • B.C.

    @caboose, I can’t believe you just said shaq had a better career than Kobe, very dumb statement shows off your basketball knowledge.

  • tpathi1

    B.C you might not read this, but are you serious right now? A D1 baller and you tellin me Wade had one good year? First off, in his rookie campaign, he took a team with the players that the LA Lakers (kobe’s la lakers) traded shaq for to the second round. Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, etc. What did Kobe do the next year when Shaq left to Miami with Lamar and Caron…thats right they didn’t make the playoffs. In Shaqs first year with Miami, D Wade continued to go nuts…they made it to the eastern conference finals and he got some crazy twisted rib injury that sidelined him for game 6 and game 7 and part of game 5. If that flukish rib injury never happens he is in the finals the year before he won the ring. it would have been Spurs vs Heat, mind you the Pistons took the Spurs to game 7 that series..and im not goin to say who wins or loses that series but the Pistons were more than tested by that first Heat team. Wade had plenty of good years, as a D1 baller I don’t see how you can’t appreciate his game.

  • tpathi1

    if he is not a special type of ball player then why does he have a shoe deal with jumpman/jordan? that’s not just given to you..he earned those accolades.

  • http://slamonline.com Mars

    Media is a trip. MJ was hooping in his 40′s. DWade is still the man. SMH. Get off his dyck. Just because you’re 20 does not mean everyone older than you is old. I guess LeBron is old too, cause Durant, West, Ibaka are 24, and 15 yr olds look up to them. Weird.