Saturday, October 16th, 2010 at 8:00 am  |  108 responses

Top 50: Deron Williams, no. 8

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Kenny Masenda

When people see the story of Deron Williams, it’s a story that’s littered with him making each and everyone around him better. It has come at the expense of his potential accomplishments and accolades, which is perfectly fine and, maybe, according to the script.

It’s a story that started in high school, flourished in college, and continues in the pros. When he ran the point for The Colony High School, there was another player on his team (Bracey Wright) who got a majority of the accolades. WDeron Williamshen he took his abilities to The Fighting Illini, he took a backseat to two other guards (Dee Brown and Luther Head). And when he was drafted by the Utah Jazz, he was brought along slowly, almost like he was being hazed in an attempt to test the man’s character, by The Great Jerry Sloan.

The thing is when you looked back at those days, you could speak reverently about everyone else at that time, but when you look at October of 2010, there is still one man standing; one man who is now the best point guard in basketball, and did it in a way that should be applauded and appreciated…and that man is Deron Williams.

You may be taken aback when you see the words, “Deron Williams is the best point guard in basketball,” but for me, there’s a different take than what other basketball fans have of the man. It’s one that’s more reflective, more personal, and one that’s not so much rooted solely in what he’s done in the NBA.

It’s one that I’ve been able to witness for the past nine years, well before he put on an NBA uniform.

The story of him is truly about team and truly about doing whatever it takes to win. The man knows how to lead, plain and simple. When you look at what Utah has done with him at the point, it’s truly remarkable. Rarely do you see a franchise lose two legends, two immortals, two Hall of Famers, and have (at least) one fall in your lap so soon and watch him grow before your very eyes. It also helps that he has John Stockton’s seal of approval, and if Utah is able to continue to put players around him, the Jazz will continue to contend in the West for quite some time.

They’ve already made a Western Conference Final and two semi-final appearances with Deron running the show. To take it a step further, in the four years he’s played in the postseason, the teams that beat the Jazz went on to either win or represent the West in the NBA Finals. There’s a reason why some fans aren’t too concerned with Carlos Boozer leaving town and being replaced by Big Al Jefferson, and it’s because of the maestro of their symphony. Williams told Jefferson, as soon as he arrived, that he would make him an All-Star. Once again, it’s all about making others better.

Here’s Williams, someone who finally made the All-Star team for the first time last season, an act of irresponsibility by fans and coaches that should be a first-degree felony for taking so long, talking about how he would give someone else that same feeling of playing in the second weekend in February for the first time in their career. It’s always been about others, and never about self. Maybe that’s part of the reason why some don’t fully understand why the man is so great — his impact will never be fully reflective in the numbers.

When the Jazz need a bucket, he’ll get it. When they need him to make the right pass, he’ll make it. When they need him to make the right basketball play, he will deliver it. It will always be about the imprint he leaves on his teams, and for that reason, here’s hoping the man has an opportunity to someday soon experience basketball immortality, and win an NBA championship. That’s probably what it will take for the masses to realize what some of us have known about him for a long time.

For now, dubbing Deron the best point guard in basketball (and a top-10 player in the L) will have to suffice.

Player Team Position 2010 2009 2010 2009
Ray Allen Celtics SG 50 36 10 9
Gilbert Arenas Wizards SG 49 34 9 8
Lamar Odom Lakers PF 48 33 14 10
John Wall Wizards PG 47 NR 13 NR
OJ Mayo Grizzlies SG 46 46 8 12
Al Horford Hawks C 45 NR 6 NR
Jason Kidd Mavs PG 44 45 12 10
Joakim Noah Bulls C 43 NR 5 NR
LaMarcus Aldridge Blazers PF 42 39 13 12
David West Hornets PF 41 31 12 8
Monta Ellis Warriors SG 40 NR 7 NR
Andrew Bogut Bucks C 39 NR 4 NR
Yao Ming Rockets C 38 NR 3 NR
Brandon Jennings Bucks PG 37 NR 11 NR
Zach Randolph Grizzlies PF 36 NR 11 NR
Stephen Curry Warriors PG 35 NR 10 NR
David Lee Warriors PF 34 NR 10 NR
Brook Lopez Nets C 33 NR 2 NR
Gerald Wallace Bobcats SF 32 NR 7 NR
Manu Ginobili Spurs SG 31 29 6 7
Tony Parker Spurs PG 30 15 9 3
Kevin Garnett Celtics PF 29 13 9 3
Rudy Gay Grizzlies SF 28 44 6 9
Josh Smith Hawks PF 27 40 8 13
Andre Iguodala 76ers SG 26 26 5 6
Al Jefferson Jazz PF 25 23 7 7
Russell Westbrook Thunder PG 24 NR 8 NR
Chauncey Billups Nuggets PG 23 19 7 5
Tyreke Evans Kings PG 22 NR 6 NR
Danny Granger Pacers SF 21 21 5 5
Carlos Boozer Bulls PF 20 32 6 9
Paul Pierce Celtics SF 19 17 4 4
Joe Johnson Hawks SG 18 20 4 4
Rajon Rondo Celtics PG 17 27 5 8
Amar’e Stoudemire Knicks PF 16 16 5 6
Steve Nash Suns PG 15 22 4 6
Tim Duncan Spurs PF 14 6 4 1
Chris Bosh Heat PF 13 13 3 4
Derrick Rose Bulls PG 12 18 3 4
Brandon Roy Blazers SG 11 10 3 3
Pau Gasol Lakers PF 10 14 2 5
Dirk Nowiztki Mavs PF 9 9 1 2
Deron Williams Jazz PG 8 11 2 2

• Rankings are based solely on projected ’10-11 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jeremy Bauman, Maurice Bobb, Erildas Budraitis, Sean Ceglinsky, Ben Collins, Bryan Crawford, Sandy Dover, Adam Figman, Manny Maduakolam, Eddie Maisonet, Ryne Nelson, Doobie Okon, Ben Osborne, Charles Peach, Branden Peters, Quinn Peterson, David Schnur, Todd Spehr, Kyle Stack, Adam Sweeney, Dennis Tarwood, Tracy Weissenberg, Lang Whitaker, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • jahmai

    He’s better than CP3, pretty much everyone agreed during the beginning of the playoffs this year.

  • JTaylor21

    Great spot for the 2nd best PG in the league. It’s crazy that people forgot about CP last year because he got hurt but he’s STILL the best PG in the L and will be for the next 10 years. He’s a better passer, rebounder (at 6-1), thief, leader, wins with less talented teammates and shooter (he was shoot 65FG% before he got hurt). 1.CP 2.DWill 3.Nash 4.Rose 5.Rondo

  • http://scott.r.carter10@gmail.com Scott Carter

    HEY, I GOT ONE RIGHT FINALLY!!! I’m guessing #7 will be……hmmm, I’ll go with Carmelo Anthony.

  • tavoris

    how is he the best PG in basketball(I agree with you), but also ranked #2 at his position?

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstySYD Hursty

    He’s the point guard I want to lead my team. Stats and comparisons to CP be damned.

  • benno

    No 7 – glen davis (uno uno)

    And if i was you i would put money on it.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    1. Kobe
    2. Wade
    3. Bron
    4. Durant
    5. Paul
    6. Deron
    7. Dwight
    8. Carmelo
    9. Dirk
    My list has gone to sh1t!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    “one man who is now the best point guard in basketball, and did it in a way that should be applauded and appreciated…and that man is Deron Williams.”???

  • J.C.

    What’s with these write-ups declaring someone the best at their position when there’s still another player at their spot on the board? First Pau, now Deron. Do the writers get the list before they write the article? For the record, right now I’d put Deron > Chris. Dude’s an absolute beast and CP3 sat out all of last season.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Dear god – James here. I just want to thank you for everything I have, and having a strong family. The reason I am here today is to ask you for your help. Please, let someone else write the Kobe/Bron write ups this year! Look at this write up, amature, contradicting, and not well written at all. Please have someone like Lang write Kobe’s write up. And maybe San Dova for Brons write up (lol). We are really tired of these terrible write up’s, and we the fans, need SLAM to give us what we want. We have had garbage write up after garbage write up, and last years top 2 articles were (mainly Kobe’s) horrible. So Lord, help SLAM give us what we want. Help them help us. Guide them through their journey. Thanks for listening. Oh, and please give JTaylor a Heart, and Phillis a brain.


  • JTaylor21

    Also Lord please bless JamestheBall with another set of jaws preferably a Karrine Steffans “Superhead” model so he can slurp down the Black Mamba in ways his never done before.

  • Barry

    @James the Balla: Amature is not a word, sorry. Also, apostrophes are your friends.
    Deron is a great player and he deserves Top 10, but CP3 is still better. Paul was hurt last year, he’s back now and people will remember just how good he was. Even when not playing, he made Collinson into a legitamtely All-Star-calibre player for a while. Williams played consistently well, and was so deserving of his All-Star spot, but Chris Paul is still the best point guard in the league.

  • http://slamonline.com MVPballer

    D-Will is the best point guard right now, ’cause CP3 has been out for so long. I don’t think Williams will be the best PG any longer after a couple of months of regular season play.

  • BBaller

    Love his game and how he made Utah Jazz interesting ( Stockton,Hornacek and Malone never really made the highlight reels, brilliant and effective but….).Will AJ provide him the help he is going to need ?How fit is Chris Paul? Questions Questions???????

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    @JTaylor- I would rather have a set of Angela Dark’s jaw!
    @Barry – Thanks, but considering my education is that of a 16 year old, and by no means am I an English teacher, I don’t give a fack. Thanks again though.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    @Barry, who is Collinson? Let me know because for some reason I only remember Collison backing up Paul… spelling names the correct way is your friend! It let’s people understand what you are talking about.

  • BBaller

    James the Baller to JT21 keep it about the game guys.

  • BBaller

    I’m interested in knowing if people think the Jazz improved or lost in the off season and with D.Will being the leader now in Utah, how will he mesh with the new players?

  • JTaylor21

    Aye, I’m just finishing what someone else started. Also your superb slurp job hasn’t gone unnoticed because remember JamestheBalls; the Lord helps those who help themselves and others.

  • JTaylor21

    @BBaller, I think that they improved especially after they got Jeff because unlike Boozer he will more than hold his own against the Lakers length/size and that gives you guys a better chance of competing with them. People and the media always talked about the Jazz being able to give LA probs the past few years but every time they met in the playoffs, the Jazz always got their a** handed to them due to booz inefficiency vs LA’s frontline.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    *raise hand*

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Been on the DWill train since ’04. This man is the best in the L, and people are finally seeing it! Great piece by Kenny.

  • KB8toSG8

    Finally, Deron gets his due. It was really shocking and sad to see Deron not be an all-star along with Paul all the seasons Paul got selected. Both were always neck and neck but nobody seemed to mind Deron……Mad props for the guy!

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    The best PG’s in 2010 playoffs. 1. Nash and Deron (tied) 2. Rondo..

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    The best PG’s in 2010 playoffs. 1. Nash and Deron (tied).. 2. Rondo..

  • JTaylor21

    Ryne, explain to me how dude is better than someone that’s a better passer, rebounder, thief, leader, winner, and shooter?????????????

  • KB8toSG8

    @JT21…..really? Paul is a better shooter than Deron? Do you know for a fact that Deron has always OWNED CP3 when they faced head to head? And I’m not just talking about team wins……

  • JTaylor21

    KB8 Uhhhhhhhm when someone was shooting 65% from the field before he got hurt at the PG position he’s a BETTER shooter than DWill. Again don’t use the word OWNED unless he destroyed CP and shut him down, CP got his on the offensive end while DWill did the same, so nobody owned anybody. Ask BCraw he will tell you the exact same ish.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    CP3 better winner? The best team CP3 had was in 08. That team was better, than what Deron ever had. Deron made it to WCF. Paul’s best was 2nd round. Now tell me who’s the better winner?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    And BTW I like CP3 more than DWill..

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    Deron has one of the sickest handles in the NBA……

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    Field Goal percentage does not always determine who is the better shooter( It just means that they have better shot selection or score in the paint rather than settle for jump shots).

  • JTaylor21

    I said he wins with less talented players. Name one player CP has ever played with that’s as good as CBooz and AJefferson? Take your time I’ll wait……….

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ BBaller: In the frontcourt I think they got better getting Al.. But in the wings, I don’t think so. Ashton Kutcher and Ronnie Brewer, are vital parts.. More importantly Brewer. Hayward is promising but still a rook, and Raja is old, and coming from injury and more of a question than an answer. Though the good things outweighed the not so good.. So still improved overall.

  • juliusj14

    @JTaylor21 there is no evidence at all that Chris Paul is a better winner than D Will. D Will went to a national championship in college, has consistently made the playoffs in Utah, and has made it to the Western conference finals as well. There has never been a point where the Hornets went deeper in the playoffs than the Jazz, they either got eliminated at the same time or the Jazz went deeper. D Will shot is better than Chris Paul’s and in my opinion D Will has a better crossover. Its arguable who is a better passer because Paul plays in a less restrictive and faster offense. Paul is a much better rebounder, he gets more steals, and scores more points. D Will is purely a point guard he’s not super quick or athletic so he doesn’t get lots of steals or rebounds. he’s also so unselfish that he doesn’t try to dominate the offense. I don’t get how a point guard like Steve Nash who averages less than twenty points a game and doesn’t really have ridiculous stats for steals and rebounds is considered so pivotal to his teams success, but Deron Williams is consistently slept on. Deron Williams could average more points a game, but he really is a team first type of guy. Not to say D Will is better than Paul, but dude is very underrated for what he means to his team.

  • Jeff

    All i know is that Chris Paul lost by 59 pts at HOME in the playoffs against the Nuggets two years ago… the so called best point guard in the league should never let that happen

  • Ctp

    Great article. I’m glad the Jazz picked d will over Paul. Especially considering how many games Paul has missed… D will’s size and leadership skills make him the best pg in the league. He puts dudes on skates, too!

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Taylor. David West. Same number of all-star appearances. Almost identical stats. He’s as good as Boozer. (*note you said “as good” so.. ) Also Big Al is invalid because he didnt play anything with Deron yet that counts.

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstySYD Hursty

    Jtaylor – better winner? What? Please explain. And just because you have better stats doesn’t make you a better player. When you watch guys play, you just..know. It’s a gut feeling. They don’t have to have a mammoth impact statistically in order to make their team successful. It’s hard to explain, but again it’s just something you can sense. You can’t sum up the Deron vs CP debate by stats. It’ll come down to personal preference to most people on who they prefer but.. Deron, he just has ‘it’. He gets it. Like when you’re doing math and you finally undertand how to use a formula. Deron’s game is like that. He knows exactly what he wants and how to go about achieving that goal.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    And that 08 team that CP3 had is better team collectively than what Deron ever had in Utah. CP3′s 08 team had majority of their players in their best years. Deron always had a guy or two having injury problems come playoff time.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Again I want to clear myself, I like CP3 more. But at this point in time Deron is a “better winner”..

  • JTaylor21

    J, COME ON MAN do you really believe that DWest is as good as a consistent 20/10 guy like CBooz? REALLY!!! Also ALJeff is one of the best post scorers in the L and also puts up 20/10 like it’s nothing. CP has played with less talented players and has produced better all-around numbers than DWill therefore making him the better player.

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstySYD Hursty

    I’m not ‘hating’ on Chris Paul’s game here either. I just prefer Williams over him if I have to choose a PG on my team, regardless of tempo/style or surrounding players.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Slam got this spot right. And he wasn’t saying slam has deron as best pg he was saying he personally thinks he’s #1

  • VisionofGreatness

    Nash doesn’t play defense so can’t put him in the top 5 point guard discussion. A point guard has to play on both sides of the floor. Period. I like D-Will in the 8 spot. If he and CP3 stay healthy this season, we will see how much their respective teams win and then we can really judge who may be the best point guard in the league. I predict that the Jazz will win more. Deron Williams never had someone like Tyson Chandler to catch alley oops all the time. He’s had to work harder for his assists in his career. David West has better range than Boozer. So I don’t see how one can say that Chris has had lesser talent around him. I was a big fan of CP3′s before this summer when he decided to become a follower instead of a leader and switched to LeBron’s management team. Let’s see if he can focus on his current team and not the team that William Wesley is trying to get him to go to (Knicks).

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Taylor. Again Big Al doesn’t count yet. 2nd I NEVER said Deron is > than CP3. I just said that Deron is better ATM in terms of winning.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Where’s my post? Cmon SLAM??

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstySYD Hursty

    jtaylor – that’s horrible f#cking logic there mate. If you’re playing with less talented teammates it’s expected that you’d put up bigger numbers. And if you’re going to base your entire arguement on stats (which you’ve done a complete 180 on btw) then yes, you might be right that CP is the better pg. But you’d also naive for making your point totally based on stats.
    Tell me – why did Al average 20/10 in Minnesota and earlier in Boston? Lack of help. Meaning increased load bearing. Boozer also had Deron passing him the ball. Like West has Paul throwing it to him.

  • Ben Flook

    The N/O team that got to the West semi’s that year are no where close talent wise to the Utah teams of the last 3/4 years. CP3 was MVP that year, he got robbed! (As much as i love Kobe its the truth) And David West is not ‘as good’ as Boozer. There’s a reason hes 21 places below him in these rankings. Oh and CP3 is on the same level as Kobe and Bron IMO. I think we will all see that this year.

  • ripslam

    DW = not the best PG. Sorry.

  • BBaller

    @JT21,good to see bball as your topic of discussion, hey the Jazz are not my team though, it was the whole short shorts thing, no slur against the city or its people,it’s actually San Antonio, but when Tony Parker had his name in the trade rumours i could only think of D. Will or Chris Paul as the only ones I’d like to see in a spurs uniform. D.Will may fit better with the Spurs current line up but CP3 would do nicely.That’s IF the Spurs even decide to move TP, i hope not.

  • The Philosopher

    I’m your idol.
    Your highest idol.

  • JTaylor21

    Co-sign Ben point on CP being on the same level as Kb/Bron/Wade and he’s BETTER than KD. @Hursty, I already gave you the reasons why he’s better than DWill, read my 8:18am post if you suddenly developed a bad case of amnesia.

  • BBaller

    And a bigger IF, that Utah would want to trade!
    The Spurs cannot get nothing for TP like when we they let Rodman go to the Bulls for Purdue, i still can’t forgive, drafts like Manu and Tony have made me forget.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Boozer is career 17/10 and 51%
    West is career 16 /8 and 48% and a better FT%. Boozer is better on boards obviously. But he’s more of inside -mid low post guy and had Okur at center so he had to do more on boards. West is more 17 feet guy and had Chandler and Okafor at center. That to me means Boozer is just better by an inch. And West is “as good” as Boozer.

  • JTaylor21

    J, fair point but when has DWest ever ever come close to avg. 20/10? NEVER. That’s what I look at when gauging just how good a PF is and can be. Do you think that the Bulls would be considered chip contenders if they had West instead of Booz? Food for thought.

  • Petar

    Dirk is better than Deron, sorry…

  • http://twitter.com/soulonice6 Kenny

    Appreciate the commentary, y’all; even the amateur line. I’m always tryna get better, and if ‘ol buddy can show where it’s contradictory and amateur, I’ll use the constructive criticism for future reference.

    Thanks again.

  • http://slamonline.com SpaceJam

    CP3 is the best pg in the world. Best handles in the league, best passer, best thief, arguably the best rebounding pg in the league. He took a very mediocre team in 08 to 55 wins. Are we really that far removed from when he took the league by storm with 22 12 6 and 3.

  • http://Yahoo.com Eboyhater

    Deron Williams is the best point guard in the league BOOK IT!!!

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    @Jtaylor on david west’s stats:
    07-08: 20.6 ppg, 8.9 rpg
    08-09: 21.0 ppg, 8.5 rpg
    I believe those numbers are pretty close to the 20/10 you believe west has never never come close to averaging. Get your stats and facts straight before you upchuck online.

  • Ben Flook

    Boozer would average a lot better than that if he played with CP3. I don’k think anyone can argue CP3 is the best pick and roll PG in the L right now, he turned Tyson Chandler into a force for two years! (sort of)

  • JTaylor21

    Caboose, those numbers are close but NO cigars. Either you put up 20/10 or you don’t NONE of that pretty close crap matters. Booz on the other hand put up 21/12, 20/10, and 19.5/11 last year, so stick it where the sun don’t shine. Trying to question my b-ball knowledge, how dare you. Are you going to answer my question or beat around the bush; would the Bulls be considered contenders if they had gotten DWest instead of CBooz?

  • Blackphantom

    I think I’d rather have D-Will on my squad than CP3, though they’re both incredible point guards

  • derby

    still understand how Al didn’t make the list…

  • derby

    sorry ,i looked up for it again,no 25!!

  • TSmoove

    Love this spot for him…still between him and Jamal Crawford for best crossover in the League

  • Josh

    Love the top 50, but I have to comment on this. The piece is all about Deron being the best pg in the L, and yet you do not have him ranked number 1. Same think with Dirk and Pau, you say Pau is the best with no mention of Dirk, but Dirk is ranked number 1. I don’t like that. Writers need to understand what they are writing about, and in the case of Deron and Gasol, it is apparently not the best in their position.

  • EJ

    Damn I thought it was gonna be Melo at 8, well
    7. Melo
    6. Dwight
    5. CP3
    4. Wade
    3. Lebron
    2. Kobe
    1. KD
    is how the SLAM top 50 is gonna end. And TSmoove, the best crossovers in the league come from Jamal and Derrick Rose.

  • http://www.slamonline.com AllDayEveryDay

    First, I agree these write-ups have been bad..
    Second, I can’t believe someone is saying DWest is as good as CBooz..
    Third, CP3>Deron

  • Big E

    Deron Williams hasn’t made anyone better.

  • slick ric

    To me its Chris Paul and then every other point guard. No disrespect to deron because he the second best point but it’s a gap between him and Paul when Paul is healthy. They both equal as far as offense is concerned but I think the impact Paul makes on the defensive end is what separates him when compared to other guards because he’s great at playing the passing lanes and he’s a good defender.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Kenny, not to be rude, but a lot of these write ups have been terrible. They try and be to philosophical, when they should just say why they are ranked where they are. And it is contradicting to say he is the best pg in basketball and put him second on this list for pg’s. Unless Chris Paul is not on this list? It is the same with saying Pau is the best pf in the league and than ranking Dirk higher. And YES, I spelled Amateur wrong, I spelled it Amature… maybe I watch to much p0rn. Barry still hasn’t told me who Collinson is!

  • http://slamonline.com Anton

    @AllDayEveryDay – I will defend to the death that Delonte West is as good as Boozer.

  • bashmo

    Thats right! He’s the best point guard in ball? Nope..people seemed to have forgotten who Chris Paul is. After missing less than half the season, people wrote him off. CP3 is the better PG, but D-Will is a bonafide beast, real talk.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Should be ahead of Carmelo Anthony, as we saw by last playoffs when the undermanned Jazz owned the Nuggets.

  • All net

    There will be 6 centers on this list, and Horford isn’t even a real C. Says a lot about todays game..

  • http://www.facebook.com B-Moore

    Damn it Slam! I don’t ask for a lot. I’ve been faithful to the Slam fam, buying up the mags and getting online when I can. I haven’t complained as much as I could have.. All I’ve asked for is a little bit of honesty. Deron Williams >>> Chris Paul. Regular Season statistics be damned. The one stat worth paying attention to, is wins. Williams is just a winner.

    Noteworthy : Williams gets the better of Paul each time they play.. I’m just sayin…

  • T-Sizzle

    Is it not significant to anyone else that Deron is always the number two (or three) assist man in the league while playing on the NUMBER ONE assisting team in the league? The Jazz flex offense demands that the ball continually moves and everyone racks up assists, not just Deron. Deron/Ninja is #1.

  • agentJ



    See the difference? Feel the difference? End of discussion, everyone?

  • Jer Dawg

    Check the intangibles. Many claim Kobe is best because he hits game winners and has intangibles not just measured by statistics. Many claim Lebron is best because of sheer numbers and power. Was Shaq better than Kobe because of skill or dominance during the Laker championships?
    Deron Williams has intangibles not measured by numbers that Chris Paul is clearly more accomplished in. The article clearly states he look backseats to all these other players either not in the NBA or are bench players. I do believe that if Deron Williams was on Hornets he would do as good if not better than CP3. But i can’t really buy into if it was the other way around. Head to head, I only see dominance by Williams over Paul. If ever Williams went to another bigger market….

  • Shifty

    How can you call him the best point gaurd in the league when his position rank is number 2 in this?

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com Michael NZ

    Anthony ahead of Williams: a joke.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    So hes the best PG in the league but CP3 is ahead of him?

  • Avery

    ahahah look @ brandon roy’s page i’m 3/3 on the prediction of the top 10!!!!

  • http://nicekicks.com meloman2.0

    @teddy: no he shouldnt… Because the Jazz have much better all around team than the nuggets… plus the Jazz had one of the best coaches in NBA history coaching, while the nuggets had… gulp… DANTLEY!… i do think he shud be ahead of chris paul and Kd though

  • KB2412345

    SpaceJam: Kidd

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Taylor: Bulls are not title contenders now even with Boozer. East? Sure. Title? No.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Taylor: Also based on YOUR judgement on how good a PF should be, (you said he must be 20/10 consistently) then you must be thinking that Boozer is better than Amare then? Geez..

  • shan

    Number 8…how perfect.

  • http://twitter.com/soulonice6 Kenny

    @ James the Balla

    Thanks for the feedback. I can’t really speak for any else’s write-ups, but in terms of mine, I really wanted to make it a point to highlight Deron and his impact, intangibles, and the reasons why he is where he is. There’s no mention of any other PG in my post, because it isn’t about them, which led to me saying he’s the best, even though he’s ranked number two, according to SLAM. Which is cool, IMO, but I can understand how it causes conflict for others.
    Hopefully, that clears any confusion up. Thanks again, brother..

  • rob

    ok guys idk how your showing all these videos and saying that deron is better than cp3 cuz he’s not. Im a season ticket holder for the spurs and everytime i see the hornets or jazz live i always analyze how cp3 or deron does. if you are talking about how individually one player is better than the other then it is CLEARLY CP3! deron is more of a team oriented player and fits a role in the offence. CP3 does 95% of the handling and makes sure his team runs, so he clearly HAS to do more which makes for better stats(look up the amount of times cp has dropped a triple dub compared to DWill).deron could put up those numbers IF he had as good intangible qualities CP has. raw speed, vision, etc.. And please dont talk about the playoffs, neither has won a ring so it doesnt matter how far they got, either u win or u dont. People are biased when it comes to these 2 but their games speak for themselves and obviously CP3 stands above the crowd.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    Guys, there’s really no contradiction here.
    The writer thinks Deron is the best PG in the game. (As do I)
    The AVERAGE ranking of all the SLAMheads who voted, put Deron at #2.
    That’s OK.
    It really is.

  • agentJ

    @rob: That’s right, except that Hornets SUCKS. You just proved that CP3 is the same type of player as Allen Iverson, but while Iverson still carried 76ers on his shoulder in his 30′s, CP3 is talking about quitting already.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    I still proved your point wrong jtaylor, you said dwest never came close to 20/10 at first yet you just said the stats were “pretty close.” And if you MUST get 20/10, then I guess that’s not boozer anymore cause he didn’t average 20/10 last year. And that’s by your own logic, not mine. And to answer your question, it’s a faulty question because your assumption is wrong: nobody outside of Chicago genuinely believes the bulls can win a chip this this year.

  • arjae828

    I think D-WIll is better offensively. CP3 is definitely a better passer and defender but D-Will is better offensively. He’s got the mid-range, the pull up, the catch & shoot, the three ball, post game, finishing at the rim,and he can pass the ball better than most in the league. Problem I have with CP3 is that he’s not a go to player. You can’t put the ball in his hands with the game on the line and ask him to get a bucket. He’s got no jumper. I’ve watched plenty of NO games when he just couldn’t produce. They play off him and he passes to Peja or D-West and they end up with a bad shot. He’s as much a part of their loses as their wins. Everyone compares him to Isiah, people seem to forget that Isiah was one of the coldest scorers the League has ever seen (especially from the guard spot). Another issue I have is that Chris Paul doesn’t push the ball the way people claim. He has this half speed trot. He doesn’t push enough. Uptempo gives his team the best chance to win. IDK, i think he’s good but not effective in every situation. Lastly, I think D-Williams being so multifaceted makes him effective in any style. He could be effective in Phoenix, L.A…anywhere. If you were to put him in N.O. and CP3 in Utah, who’d suffer more? I don’t think Deron’s game would hurt at all. CP3 would be rendered pretty ineffective in Utah’s system. That’s just my opinion.

  • KB8toSG8

    There are lies, damned lies and stats……LOL

  • KB8toSG8

    1.LeBron (since they always take LeBron for whatever reason…..I’d rather have Kobe swap places with him….)



    4.Durant ( If he goes higher than this, that’s ridiculous.)




  • Furious

    Dirk’s never gone 20/10 either. Guess Boozer’s better than him too. He’s got close, but that does not matter at all.

  • thegfunk

    Sick crossover

  • jazzLand

    It is really funny to hear that every freaking thing New Orleans does is because of Chris Paul’ greatness such as Collison.. How in the world he made him better while setting on the bench…wait a minute……. he was coaching him.. right????? When did Paul become a good couch? Collison was doing great because of his talent and that is why Pacers was way high on him and got him.

    I am sick of those phony fans that put too much emphasis on Stat while ignoring the intangible.
    Please answer this question?
    Can Chris Paul dare guarding Kobe? who wait a minute.. He can not dream about it.
    Do you guys forget the thumping that Chris Paul got from Chauncey Billups? It is funny… If New Orleans had beaten Denver that year, it would have been due to Mr.Paul (The great). But when he was owned by Billups, no body bothers bothers to bring his weakness to fore front.

    Just based on durability, defense, better shooting, Deron is better and the result shows as their respective team’s success.


  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed


  • Galagu

    1. Dorell Wright
    2. Marvin Williams
    3. Kobe
    4. Dwade
    5. Bron

  • unrel

    this conversation is so silly.. people are arguing talent vs career.. to me.. dwill is a better PG.. and i’d take him over cp3.. i like bigger guards.. and that’s just my personal opinion.. but overall.. cp3 is a better talent.. but dwill has the better career to this point (minus the hype).. forget what teammates they had or didn’t have.. that’s just a tupid argument.. cp3 might have a better skill set (slightly).. but dwill has had more success.. you can’t go wrong either way.. between these two.. it’ll go back and forth for the rest of their careers..

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Negative kreep

    I hate to admit this… But I agree to some extent with Jtay. @ Unreal How can u act like in a discussion about PG’s that quality of teamates is of no importance?

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Negative kreep

    It’s hard for me to say that DWill is a clear cut better PG than Chris Paul. He does some things with his size that beyond T Evans, no other PG does, creating space and on man defense. BUT CP3 does things as a floor general, that beyond Steve Nash, no other PG is able to do as well… So imo they’re both setting the standard right now. I just think CP3 has done more with less talent wich is the true hallmark of a pure PG, While DWill has had some nice pieces to work with in Utah, but hasn’t been able to lead that team much farther.

  • http://www.utjazzblog.com UTJazzBlog

    I’d rate him a little higher (probably #6 behind Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Wade, and Howard), but then again I don’t pretend to be unbiased. Most with knowledge of the game now realize that Deron is better than Chris Paul, as evidenced by the recent GM survey. That’s my only real problem with this ranking. CP3 is a great player, but DWill is the complete package and a winner.

  • http://Slamonline.com Mars