Top 50: Deron Williams, no. 8

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• jahmai Posted: Oct.16 at 8:14 am
  He’s better than CP3, pretty much everyone agreed during the beginning of the playoffs this year.

• JTaylor21 Posted: Oct.16 at 8:18 am
  Great spot for the 2nd best PG in the league. It’s crazy that people forgot about CP last year because he got hurt but he’s STILL the best PG in the L and will be for the next 10 years. He’s a better passer, rebounder (at 6-1), thief, leader, wins with less talented teammates and shooter (he was shoot 65FG% before he got hurt). 1.CP 2.DWill 3.Nash 4.Rose 5.Rondo

• Scott Carter Posted: Oct.16 at 8:22 am
  HEY, I GOT ONE RIGHT FINALLY!!! I’m guessing #7 will be……hmmm, I’ll go with Carmelo Anthony.

• tavoris Posted: Oct.16 at 8:26 am
  how is he the best PG in basketball(I agree with you), but also ranked #2 at his position?

• Hursty Posted: Oct.16 at 8:29 am
  He’s the point guard I want to lead my team. Stats and comparisons to CP be damned.

• benno Posted: Oct.16 at 8:30 am
  No 7 – glen davis (uno uno) And if i was you i would put money on it.

• James the Balla Posted: Oct.16 at 8:49 am
  1. Kobe
  2. Wade
  3. Bron
  4. Durant
  5. Paul
  6. Deron
  7. Dwight
  8. Carmelo
  9. Dirk
  10.Gasol
  My list has gone to sh1t!

• James the Balla Posted: Oct.16 at 8:54 am
  “one man who is now the best point guard in basketball, and did it in a way that should be applauded and appreciated…and that man is Deron Williams.”???

• J.C. Posted: Oct.16 at 8:59 am
  What’s with these write-ups declaring someone the best at their position when there’s still another player at their spot on the board? First Pau, now Deron. Do the writers get the list before they write the article? For the record, right now I’d put Deron > Chris. Dude’s an absolute beast and CP3 sat out all of last season.

• James the Balla Posted: Oct.16 at 9:08 am
  Dear god – James here. I just want to thank you for everything I have, and having a strong family. The reason I am here today is to ask you for your help. Please, let someone else write the Kobe/Bron write ups this year! Look at this write up, amature, contradicting, and not well written at all. Please have someone like Lang write Kobe’s write up. And maybe San Dova for Brons write up (lol). We are really tired of these terrible write up’s, and we the fans, need SLAM to give us what we want. We have had garbage write up after garbage write up, and last years top 2 articles were (mainly Kobe’s) horrible. So Lord, help SLAM give us what we want. Help them help us. Guide them through their journey. Thanks for listening. Oh, and please give JTaylor a Heart, and Phillis a brain. AMEN

• JTaylor21 Posted: Oct.16 at 9:32 am
  Also Lord please bless JamestheBall with another set of jaws preferably a Karrine Steffans “Superhead” model so he can slurp down the Black Mamba in ways his never done before.

• Barry Posted: Oct.16 at 9:33 am
  @James the Balla: Amature is not a word, sorry. Also, apostrophes are your friends.
  Deron is a great player and he deserves Top 10, but CP3 is still better. Paul was hurt last year, he’s back now and people will remember just how good he was. Even when not playing, he made Collinson into a legitamtely All-Star-calibre player for a while. Williams played consistently well, and was so deserving of his All-Star spot, but Chris Paul is still the best point guard in the league.

• MVPballer Posted: Oct.16 at 9:37 am
  D-Will is the best point guard right now, ’cause CP3 has been out for so long. I don’t think Williams will be the best PG any longer after a couple of months of regular season play.

• BBaller Posted: Oct.16 at 9:41 am
  Love his game and how he made Utah Jazz interesting ( Stockton,Hornacek and Malone never really made the highlight reels, brilliant and effective but….).Will AJ provide him the help he is going to need ?How fit is Chris Paul? Questions Questions???????

• James the Balla Posted: Oct.16 at 9:41 am
  @JTaylor- I would rather have a set of Angela Dark’s jaw!
  @Barry – Thanks, but considering my education is that of a 16 year old, and by no means am I an English teacher, I don’t give a fack. Thanks again though.

• James the Balla Posted: Oct.16 at 9:45 am
  @Barry, who is Collinson? Let me know because for some reason I only remember Collison backing up Paul… spelling names the correct way is your friend! It let’s people understand what you are talking about.

• BBaller Posted: Oct.16 at 9:46 am
  James the Baller to JT21 keep it about the game guys.

• BBaller Posted: Oct.16 at 9:56 am
  I’m interested in knowing if people think the Jazz improved or lost in the off season and with D.Will being the leader now in Utah, how will he mesh with the new players?

• JTaylor21 Posted: Oct.16 at 9:56 am
  Aye, I’m just finishing what someone else started. Also your superb slurp job hasn’t gone unnoticed because remember JamestheBalls; the Lord helps those who help themselves and others.

• JTaylor21 Posted: Oct.16 at 10:03 am
  @BBaller, I think that they improved especially after they got Jeff because unlike Boozer he will more than hold his own against the Lakers length/size and that gives you guys a better chance of competing with them. People and the media always talked about the Jazz being able to give LA probs the past few years but every time they met in the playoffs, the Jazz always got their a** handed to them due to booz inefficiency vs LA’s frontline.

• James the Balla Posted: Oct.16 at 10:08 am
  *raise hand*

• Ryne Nelson Posted: Oct.16 at 10:14 am
  Been on the DWill train since ’04. This man is the best in the L, and people are finally seeing it! Great piece by Kenny.

• KB8toSG8 Posted: Oct.16 at 10:17 am
  Finally, Deron gets his due. It was really shocking and sad to see Deron not be an all-star along with Paul all the seasons Paul got selected. Both were always neck and neck but nobody seemed to mind Deron……Mad props for the guy!

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 10:17 am
  The best PG’s in 2010 playoffs. 1. Nash and Deron (tied) 2. Rondo..

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 10:17 am
  The best PG’s in 2010 playoffs. 1. Nash and Deron (tied).. 2. Rondo..

• JTaylor21 Posted: Oct.16 at 10:18 am
  Ryne, explain to me how dude is better than someone that’s a better passer, rebounder, thief, leader, winner, and shooter?????????????

• KB8toSG8 Posted: Oct.16 at 10:20 am
  @JT21…..really? Paul is a better shooter than Deron? Do you know for a fact that Deron has always OWNED CP3 when they faced head to head? And I’m not just talking about team wins……

• JTaylor21 Posted: Oct.16 at 10:28 am
  KB8 Uhhhhhhhm when someone was shooting 65% from the field before he got hurt at the PG position he’s a BETTER shooter than DWill. Again don’t use the word OWNED unless he destroyed CP and shut him down, CP got his on the offensive end while DWill did the same, so nobody owned anybody. Ask BCraw he will tell you the exact same ish.

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 10:29 am
  CP3 better winner? The best team CP3 had was in 08. That team was better, than what Deron ever had. Deron made it to WCF. Paul’s best was 2nd round. Now tell me who’s the better winner?

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 10:31 am
  And BTW I like CP3 more than DWill..

• Royal Posted: Oct.16 at 10:33 am
  Deron has one of the sickest handles in the NBA……

• Royal Posted: Oct.16 at 10:38 am
  Field Goal percentage does not always determine who is the better shooter( It just means that they have better shot selection or score in the paint rather than settle for jump shots).

• JTaylor21 Posted: Oct.16 at 10:44 am
  I said he wins with less talented players. Name one player CP has ever played with that’s as good as CBooz and AJefferson? Take your time I’ll wait……….

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 10:46 am
  @ BBaller: In the frontcourt I think they got better getting Al.. But in the wings, I don’t think so. Ashton Kutcher and Ronnie Brewer, are vital parts.. More importantly Brewer. Hayward is promising but still a rook, and Raja is old, and coming from injury and more of a question than an answer. Though the good things outweighed the not so good.. So still improved overall.

• juliusj14 Posted: Oct.16 at 10:53 am
  @JTaylor21 there is no evidence at all that Chris Paul is a better winner than D Will. D Will went to a national championship in college, has consistently made the playoffs in Utah, and has made it to the Western conference finals as well. There has never been a point where the Hornets went deeper in the playoffs than the Jazz, they either got eliminated at the same time or the Jazz went deeper. D Will shot is better than Chris Paul’s and in my opinion D Will has a better crossover. Its arguable who is a better passer because Paul plays in a less restrictive and faster offense. Paul is a much better rebounder, he gets more steals, and scores more points. D Will is purely a point guard he’s not super quick or athletic so he doesn’t get lots of steals or rebounds. he’s also so unselfish that he doesn’t try to dominate the offense. I don’t get how a point guard like Steve Nash who averages less than twenty points a game and doesn’t really have ridiculous stats for steals and rebounds is considered so pivotal to his teams success, but Deron Williams is consistently slept on. Deron Williams could average more points a game, but he really is a team first type of guy. Not to say D Will is better than Paul, but dude is very underrated for what he means to his team.

• Jeff Posted: Oct.16 at 10:55 am
  All i know is that Chris Paul lost by 59 pts at HOME in the playoffs against the Nuggets two years ago… the so called best point guard in the league should never let that happen

• Ctp Posted: Oct.16 at 11:01 am
  Great article. I’m glad the Jazz picked d will over Paul. Especially considering how many games Paul has missed… D will’s size and leadership skills make him the best pg in the league. He puts dudes on skates, too!

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 11:02 am
  Taylor. David West. Same number of all-star appearances. Almost identical stats. He’s as good as Boozer. (*note you said “as good” so.. ) Also Big Al is invalid because he didnt play anything with Deron yet that counts.

• Hursty Posted: Oct.16 at 11:11 am
  Jtaylor – better winner? What? Please explain. And just because you have better stats doesn’t make you a better player. When you watch guys play, you just..know. It’s a gut feeling. They don’t have to have a mammoth impact statistically in order to make their team successful. It’s hard to explain, but again it’s just something you can sense. You can’t sum up the Deron vs CP debate by stats. It’ll come down to personal preference to most people on who they prefer but.. Deron, he just has ‘it’. He gets it. Like when you’re doing math and you finally undertand how to use a formula. Deron’s game is like that. He knows exactly what he wants and how to go about achieving that goal.

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 11:11 am
  And that 08 team that CP3 had is better team collectively than what Deron ever had in Utah. CP3′s 08 team had majority of their players in their best years. Deron always had a guy or two having injury problems come playoff time.

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 11:15 am
  Again I want to clear myself, I like CP3 more. But at this point in time Deron is a “better winner”..

• JTaylor21 Posted: Oct.16 at 11:15 am
  J, COME ON MAN do you really believe that DWest is as good as a consistent 20/10 guy like CBooz? REALLY!!! Also ALJeff is one of the best post scorers in the L and also puts up 20/10 like it’s nothing. CP has played with less talented players and has produced better all-around numbers than DWill therefore making him the better player.

• Hursty Posted: Oct.16 at 11:18 am
  I’m not ‘hating’ on Chris Paul’s game here either. I just prefer Williams over him if I have to choose a PG on my team, regardless of tempo/style or surrounding players.

• nbk Posted: Oct.16 at 11:19 am
  Slam got this spot right. And he wasn’t saying slam has deron as best pg he was saying he personally thinks he’s #1

• VisionofGreatness Posted: Oct.16 at 11:24 am
  Nash doesn’t play defense so can’t put him in the top 5 point guard discussion. A point guard has to play on both sides of the floor. Period. I like D-Will in the 8 spot. If he and CP3 stay healthy this season, we will see how much their respective teams win and then we can really judge who may be the best point guard in the league. I predict that the Jazz will win more. Deron Williams never had someone like Tyson Chandler to catch alley oops all the time. He’s had to work harder for his assists in his career. David West has better range than Boozer. So I don’t see how one can say that Chris has had lesser talent around him. I was a big fan of CP3′s before this summer when he decided to become a follower instead of a leader and switched to LeBron’s management team. Let’s see if he can focus on his current team and not the team that William Wesley is trying to get him to go to (Knicks).

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 11:26 am
  Taylor. Again Big Al doesn’t count yet. 2nd I NEVER said Deron is > than CP3. I just said that Deron is better ATM in terms of winning.

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 11:28 am
  Where’s my post? Cmon SLAM??

• Hursty Posted: Oct.16 at 11:30 am
  jtaylor – that’s horrible f#cking logic there mate. If you’re playing with less talented teammates it’s expected that you’d put up bigger numbers. And if you’re going to base your entire arguement on stats (which you’ve done a complete 180 on btw) then yes, you might be right that CP is the better pg. But you’d also naive for making your point totally based on stats.
  Tell me – why did Al average 20/10 in Minnesota and earlier in Boston? Lack of help. Meaning increased load bearing. Boozer also had Deron passing him the ball. Like West has Paul throwing it to him.

• Ben Flook Posted: Oct.16 at 11:36 am
  The N/O team that got to the West semi’s that year are no where close talent wise to the Utah teams of the last 3/4 years. CP3 was MVP that year, he got robbed! (As much as i love Kobe its the truth) And David West is not ‘as good’ as Boozer. There’s a reason hes 21 places below him in these rankings. Oh and CP3 is on the same level as Kobe and Bron IMO. I think we will all see that this year.

• ripslam Posted: Oct.16 at 11:36 am
  DW = not the best PG. Sorry.

• BBaller Posted: Oct.16 at 11:39 am
  @JT21,good to see bball as your topic of discussion, hey the Jazz are not my team though, it was the whole short shorts thing, no slur against the city or its people,it’s actually San Antonio, but when Tony Parker had his name in the trade rumours i could only think of D. Will or Chris Paul as the only ones I’d like to see in a spurs uniform. D.Will may fit better with the Spurs current line up but CP3 would do nicely.That’s IF the Spurs even decide to move TP, i hope not.

• The Philosopher Posted: Oct.16 at 11:41 am
  Jimmy:
  I’m your idol.
  Your highest idol.

• JTaylor21 Posted: Oct.16 at 11:45 am
  Co-sign Ben point on CP being on the same level as Kb/Bron/Wade and he’s BETTER than KD. @Hursty, I already gave you the reasons why he’s better than DWill, read my 8:18am post if you suddenly developed a bad case of amnesia.

• BBaller Posted: Oct.16 at 11:47 am
  And a bigger IF, that Utah would want to trade!
  The Spurs cannot get nothing for TP like when we they let Rodman go to the Bulls for Purdue, i still can’t forgive, drafts like Manu and Tony have made me forget.

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 11:50 am
  Taylor:
  Boozer is career 17/10 and 51%
  West is career 16 /8 and 48% and a better FT%. Boozer is better on boards obviously. But he’s more of inside -mid low post guy and had Okur at center so he had to do more on boards. West is more 17 feet guy and had Chandler and Okafor at center. That to me means Boozer is just better by an inch. And West is “as good” as Boozer.

• JTaylor21 Posted: Oct.16 at 11:59 am
  J, fair point but when has DWest ever ever come close to avg. 20/10? NEVER. That’s what I look at when gauging just how good a PF is and can be. Do you think that the Bulls would be considered chip contenders if they had West instead of Booz? Food for thought.

• Petar Posted: Oct.16 at 12:20 pm
  Dirk is better than Deron, sorry…

• Kenny Posted: Oct.16 at 12:25 pm
  Appreciate the commentary, y’all; even the amateur line. I’m always tryna get better, and if ‘ol buddy can show where it’s contradictory and amateur, I’ll use the constructive criticism for future reference. Thanks again.

• SpaceJam Posted: Oct.16 at 12:32 pm
  CP3 is the best pg in the world. Best handles in the league, best passer, best thief, arguably the best rebounding pg in the league. He took a very mediocre team in 08 to 55 wins. Are we really that far removed from when he took the league by storm with 22 12 6 and 3.

• Eboyhater Posted: Oct.16 at 12:35 pm
  Deron Williams is the best point guard in the league BOOK IT!!!

• Caboose Posted: Oct.16 at 12:43 pm
  @Jtaylor on david west’s stats:
  07-08: 20.6 ppg, 8.9 rpg
  08-09: 21.0 ppg, 8.5 rpg
  I believe those numbers are pretty close to the 20/10 you believe west has never never come close to averaging. Get your stats and facts straight before you upchuck online.

• Ben Flook Posted: Oct.16 at 12:47 pm
  Boozer would average a lot better than that if he played with CP3. I don’k think anyone can argue CP3 is the best pick and roll PG in the L right now, he turned Tyson Chandler into a force for two years! (sort of)

• JTaylor21 Posted: Oct.16 at 12:55 pm
  Caboose, those numbers are close but NO cigars. Either you put up 20/10 or you don’t NONE of that pretty close crap matters. Booz on the other hand put up 21/12, 20/10, and 19.5/11 last year, so stick it where the sun don’t shine. Trying to question my b-ball knowledge, how dare you. Are you going to answer my question or beat around the bush; would the Bulls be considered contenders if they had gotten DWest instead of CBooz?

• Blackphantom Posted: Oct.16 at 1:19 pm
  I think I’d rather have D-Will on my squad than CP3, though they’re both incredible point guards

• derby Posted: Oct.16 at 1:28 pm
  still understand how Al didn’t make the list…

• derby Posted: Oct.16 at 1:29 pm
  sorry ,i looked up for it again,no 25!!

• TSmoove Posted: Oct.16 at 2:04 pm
  Love this spot for him…still between him and Jamal Crawford for best crossover in the League

• Josh Posted: Oct.16 at 3:03 pm
  Love the top 50, but I have to comment on this. The piece is all about Deron being the best pg in the L, and yet you do not have him ranked number 1. Same think with Dirk and Pau, you say Pau is the best with no mention of Dirk, but Dirk is ranked number 1. I don’t like that. Writers need to understand what they are writing about, and in the case of Deron and Gasol, it is apparently not the best in their position.

• EJ Posted: Oct.16 at 3:04 pm
  Damn I thought it was gonna be Melo at 8, well
  7. Melo
  6. Dwight
  5. CP3
  4. Wade
  3. Lebron
  2. Kobe
  1. KD
  is how the SLAM top 50 is gonna end. And TSmoove, the best crossovers in the league come from Jamal and Derrick Rose.

• AllDayEveryDay Posted: Oct.16 at 3:21 pm
  First, I agree these write-ups have been bad..
  Second, I can’t believe someone is saying DWest is as good as CBooz..
  Third, CP3>Deron

• Big E Posted: Oct.16 at 3:22 pm
  Deron Williams hasn’t made anyone better.

• slick ric Posted: Oct.16 at 3:33 pm
  To me its Chris Paul and then every other point guard. No disrespect to deron because he the second best point but it’s a gap between him and Paul when Paul is healthy. They both equal as far as offense is concerned but I think the impact Paul makes on the defensive end is what separates him when compared to other guards because he’s great at playing the passing lanes and he’s a good defender.

• James the Balla Posted: Oct.16 at 3:38 pm
  Kenny, not to be rude, but a lot of these write ups have been terrible. They try and be to philosophical, when they should just say why they are ranked where they are. And it is contradicting to say he is the best pg in basketball and put him second on this list for pg’s. Unless Chris Paul is not on this list? It is the same with saying Pau is the best pf in the league and than ranking Dirk higher. And YES, I spelled Amateur wrong, I spelled it Amature… maybe I watch to much p0rn. Barry still hasn’t told me who Collinson is!

• Anton Posted: Oct.16 at 4:03 pm
  @AllDayEveryDay – I will defend to the death that Delonte West is as good as Boozer.

• bashmo Posted: Oct.16 at 5:07 pm
  Thats right! He’s the best point guard in ball? Nope..people seemed to have forgotten who Chris Paul is. After missing less than half the season, people wrote him off. CP3 is the better PG, but D-Will is a bonafide beast, real talk.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Oct.16 at 5:11 pm
  Should be ahead of Carmelo Anthony, as we saw by last playoffs when the undermanned Jazz owned the Nuggets.

• All net Posted: Oct.16 at 5:20 pm
  There will be 6 centers on this list, and Horford isn’t even a real C. Says a lot about todays game..

• B-Moore Posted: Oct.16 at 5:31 pm
  Damn it Slam! I don’t ask for a lot. I’ve been faithful to the Slam fam, buying up the mags and getting online when I can. I haven’t complained as much as I could have.. All I’ve asked for is a little bit of honesty. Deron Williams >>> Chris Paul. Regular Season statistics be damned. The one stat worth paying attention to, is wins. Williams is just a winner. Noteworthy : Williams gets the better of Paul each time they play.. I’m just sayin…

• T-Sizzle Posted: Oct.16 at 6:01 pm
  Is it not significant to anyone else that Deron is always the number two (or three) assist man in the league while playing on the NUMBER ONE assisting team in the league? The Jazz flex offense demands that the ball continually moves and everyone racks up assists, not just Deron. Deron/Ninja is #1.

• agentJ Posted: Oct.16 at 7:16 pm
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3isS0H_Em4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmK0fMEnKEA See the difference? Feel the difference? End of discussion, everyone?

• Jer Dawg Posted: Oct.16 at 7:46 pm
  Check the intangibles. Many claim Kobe is best because he hits game winners and has intangibles not just measured by statistics. Many claim Lebron is best because of sheer numbers and power. Was Shaq better than Kobe because of skill or dominance during the Laker championships?
  Deron Williams has intangibles not measured by numbers that Chris Paul is clearly more accomplished in. The article clearly states he look backseats to all these other players either not in the NBA or are bench players. I do believe that if Deron Williams was on Hornets he would do as good if not better than CP3. But i can’t really buy into if it was the other way around. Head to head, I only see dominance by Williams over Paul. If ever Williams went to another bigger market….

• Shifty Posted: Oct.16 at 7:50 pm
  How can you call him the best point gaurd in the league when his position rank is number 2 in this?

• Michael NZ Posted: Oct.16 at 7:51 pm
  Anthony ahead of Williams: a joke.

• Pardeep Posted: Oct.16 at 7:57 pm
  So hes the best PG in the league but CP3 is ahead of him?

• Avery Posted: Oct.16 at 8:02 pm
  ahahah look @ brandon roy’s page i’m 3/3 on the prediction of the top 10!!!!

• meloman2.0 Posted: Oct.16 at 8:30 pm
  @teddy: no he shouldnt… Because the Jazz have much better all around team than the nuggets… plus the Jazz had one of the best coaches in NBA history coaching, while the nuggets had… gulp… DANTLEY!… i do think he shud be ahead of chris paul and Kd though

• KB2412345 Posted: Oct.16 at 9:36 pm
  SpaceJam: Kidd

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 10:16 pm
  Taylor: Bulls are not title contenders now even with Boozer. East? Sure. Title? No.

• J Posted: Oct.16 at 10:24 pm
  Taylor: Also based on YOUR judgement on how good a PF should be, (you said he must be 20/10 consistently) then you must be thinking that Boozer is better than Amare then? Geez..

• shan Posted: Oct.16 at 10:44 pm
  Number 8…how perfect.

• Kenny Posted: Oct.16 at 11:09 pm
  @ James the Balla Thanks for the feedback. I can’t really speak for any else’s write-ups, but in terms of mine, I really wanted to make it a point to highlight Deron and his impact, intangibles, and the reasons why he is where he is. There’s no mention of any other PG in my post, because it isn’t about them, which led to me saying he’s the best, even though he’s ranked number two, according to SLAM. Which is cool, IMO, but I can understand how it causes conflict for others.
  Hopefully, that clears any confusion up. Thanks again, brother..

• rob Posted: Oct.16 at 11:55 pm
  ok guys idk how your showing all these videos and saying that deron is better than cp3 cuz he’s not. Im a season ticket holder for the spurs and everytime i see the hornets or jazz live i always analyze how cp3 or deron does. if you are talking about how individually one player is better than the other then it is CLEARLY CP3! deron is more of a team oriented player and fits a role in the offence. CP3 does 95% of the handling and makes sure his team runs, so he clearly HAS to do more which makes for better stats(look up the amount of times cp has dropped a triple dub compared to DWill).deron could put up those numbers IF he had as good intangible qualities CP has. raw speed, vision, etc.. And please dont talk about the playoffs, neither has won a ring so it doesnt matter how far they got, either u win or u dont. People are biased when it comes to these 2 but their games speak for themselves and obviously CP3 stands above the crowd.

• tealish Posted: Oct.17 at 12:16 am
  Guys, there’s really no contradiction here.
  The writer thinks Deron is the best PG in the game. (As do I)
  The AVERAGE ranking of all the SLAMheads who voted, put Deron at #2.
  That’s OK.
  It really is.

• agentJ Posted: Oct.17 at 1:09 am
  @rob: That’s right, except that Hornets SUCKS. You just proved that CP3 is the same type of player as Allen Iverson, but while Iverson still carried 76ers on his shoulder in his 30′s, CP3 is talking about quitting already.

• Caboose Posted: Oct.17 at 2:41 am
  I still proved your point wrong jtaylor, you said dwest never came close to 20/10 at first yet you just said the stats were “pretty close.” And if you MUST get 20/10, then I guess that’s not boozer anymore cause he didn’t average 20/10 last year. And that’s by your own logic, not mine. And to answer your question, it’s a faulty question because your assumption is wrong: nobody outside of Chicago genuinely believes the bulls can win a chip this this year.

• arjae828 Posted: Oct.17 at 3:54 am
  I think D-WIll is better offensively. CP3 is definitely a better passer and defender but D-Will is better offensively. He’s got the mid-range, the pull up, the catch & shoot, the three ball, post game, finishing at the rim,and he can pass the ball better than most in the league. Problem I have with CP3 is that he’s not a go to player. You can’t put the ball in his hands with the game on the line and ask him to get a bucket. He’s got no jumper. I’ve watched plenty of NO games when he just couldn’t produce. They play off him and he passes to Peja or D-West and they end up with a bad shot. He’s as much a part of their loses as their wins. Everyone compares him to Isiah, people seem to forget that Isiah was one of the coldest scorers the League has ever seen (especially from the guard spot). Another issue I have is that Chris Paul doesn’t push the ball the way people claim. He has this half speed trot. He doesn’t push enough. Uptempo gives his team the best chance to win. IDK, i think he’s good but not effective in every situation. Lastly, I think D-Williams being so multifaceted makes him effective in any style. He could be effective in Phoenix, L.A…anywhere. If you were to put him in N.O. and CP3 in Utah, who’d suffer more? I don’t think Deron’s game would hurt at all. CP3 would be rendered pretty ineffective in Utah’s system. That’s just my opinion.

• KB8toSG8 Posted: Oct.17 at 5:22 am
  There are lies, damned lies and stats……LOL

• KB8toSG8 Posted: Oct.17 at 5:26 am
  1.LeBron (since they always take LeBron for whatever reason…..I’d rather have Kobe swap places with him….) 2.Kobe. 3.Wade 4.Durant ( If he goes higher than this, that’s ridiculous.) 5.Melo 6.Paul 7.

• Furious Posted: Oct.17 at 6:48 am
  Dirk’s never gone 20/10 either. Guess Boozer’s better than him too. He’s got close, but that does not matter at all.

• thegfunk Posted: Oct.17 at 8:47 am
  Sick crossover

• jazzLand Posted: Oct.17 at 3:05 pm
  It is really funny to hear that every freaking thing New Orleans does is because of Chris Paul’ greatness such as Collison.. How in the world he made him better while setting on the bench…wait a minute……. he was coaching him.. right????? When did Paul become a good couch? Collison was doing great because of his talent and that is why Pacers was way high on him and got him. I am sick of those phony fans that put too much emphasis on Stat while ignoring the intangible.
  Please answer this question?
  Can Chris Paul dare guarding Kobe? who wait a minute.. He can not dream about it.
  Do you guys forget the thumping that Chris Paul got from Chauncey Billups? It is funny… If New Orleans had beaten Denver that year, it would have been due to Mr.Paul (The great). But when he was owned by Billups, no body bothers bothers to bring his weakness to fore front. Just based on durability, defense, better shooting, Deron is better and the result shows as their respective team’s success. f

• The Seed Posted: Oct.17 at 6:23 pm
  BEST POINT GUARD IN THE NBA. BOOK IT!!

• Galagu Posted: Oct.18 at 4:14 am
  1. Dorell Wright
  2. Marvin Williams
  3. Kobe
  4. Dwade
  5. Bron

• unrel Posted: Oct.18 at 2:42 pm
  this conversation is so silly.. people are arguing talent vs career.. to me.. dwill is a better PG.. and i’d take him over cp3.. i like bigger guards.. and that’s just my personal opinion.. but overall.. cp3 is a better talent.. but dwill has the better career to this point (minus the hype).. forget what teammates they had or didn’t have.. that’s just a tupid argument.. cp3 might have a better skill set (slightly).. but dwill has had more success.. you can’t go wrong either way.. between these two.. it’ll go back and forth for the rest of their careers..

• Negative kreep Posted: Oct.18 at 4:44 pm
  I hate to admit this… But I agree to some extent with Jtay. @ Unreal How can u act like in a discussion about PG’s that quality of teamates is of no importance?

• Negative kreep Posted: Oct.18 at 6:31 pm
  It’s hard for me to say that DWill is a clear cut better PG than Chris Paul. He does some things with his size that beyond T Evans, no other PG does, creating space and on man defense. BUT CP3 does things as a floor general, that beyond Steve Nash, no other PG is able to do as well… So imo they’re both setting the standard right now. I just think CP3 has done more with less talent wich is the true hallmark of a pure PG, While DWill has had some nice pieces to work with in Utah, but hasn’t been able to lead that team much farther.

• UTJazzBlog Posted: Oct.19 at 3:05 am
  I’d rate him a little higher (probably #6 behind Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Wade, and Howard), but then again I don’t pretend to be unbiased. Most with knowledge of the game now realize that Deron is better than Chris Paul, as evidenced by the recent GM survey. That’s my only real problem with this ranking. CP3 is a great player, but DWill is the complete package and a winner.

• Mars Posted: Mar.3 at 2:07 pm
  HE’S ON THE NETS….NUFF SAID. Devin Harris is better, just ask around the league. NAW, DWILL BETTER THAN RONDO? WHY DONT WE JUST START GIVING ELITE STATUS WAY. AND NICK YOUNG IS A BEAST, BETTER THAN DWILL TOO.