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Friday, October 26th, 2012 at 4:29 pm  |  123 responses

Top 50: Dwight Howard, no. 5

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players for ’12-13.

by Nima Zarrabi / @NZbeFree

Of all the stories that circulated during Dwight Howard’s struggle to flee Orlando last year, the tale of the candies and his ETO top my list.

As he was praying and fasting in March over the difficult decision on whether or not to return to Orlando, Dwight was met by Magic CEO Alex Martins, who hoped to persuade the franchise star to remain with the team. Martins had brought all of Dwight’s favorite candies and foods to help his cause, but the big man could not indulge.

The tale was a classic and Martins eventually received the answer he was looking for as Howard waived his early termination option and committed to a return to the Magic for the ‘12-13 season, citing loyalty as a big part of his decision. It would not last and you know the rest—Dwight didn’t get the trade to Brooklyn that he wanted and ended up West, now starring for the Lake Show in what he describes as “a blessing in disguise.”

And after being caught up in one of the most negative storylines of the season last year, Howard has flipped the script with his purple and gold jersey and trademark smile.

We all know what to expect from Dwight on the court and that is why he checks in at No. 5 on our list. Even with all of the negativity surrounding him last year, Howard produced his standard issue 20 points, 14 rebounds and 2 blocks, earning the best center in the game All-NBA First-Team honors.

In two pre-season games with the Lakers this year, he has looked good on the defensive end and shined in some nice P&R sets with PG Steve Nash. They struggled in the preseason (0-8), as the team adjusted to a new offense and roster. The Lakers players say their pre-season losses are nothing to worry about and the team will be ready to go once the regular season tips off.

If attention is what Dwight lusted for during his opt-out bonanza last year, he will have access to copious amounts here. The Lakers new network—Time Warner Sportsnet—will be catered to him like no other player. In addition to showcasing his play on the hardwood, the network will tap into his unique personality, allowing him to act out all of his comedic talents for the world. During his Lakers debut, the Time Warner cameras focused on Howard for enough time prior to tip to see him get a pound from Lisa Estrada and then ball up the plastic he dusts his sneakers on at halfcourt, shooting it into the crowd as if it were a fadeway jumper.

During an episode of Backstage, a show on the network that will give fans a behind-the-scenes perspective, Howard was shown getting a tour of the Lakers facility and offices for the first time. In one scene, Howard is in GM Mitch Kupchak’s office and looks on to the Lakers’ practice court through a window, in awe of the retired jerseys of Lakers legends. Kupchak smiles and tells Dwight that he wants his jersey up there in 10 years (that’s two more contracts, BTW).

That, of course, will be a storyline for Howard this season—will Dwight re-sign with the Lakers?—along with many others. Just yesterday, the L.A. Times ran a story with the headline, “Will Dwight Howard get along with Kobe Bryant?”

Yeah, it’s going to be a fun year, that’s for sure.


Where should Dwight Howard rank in the SLAMonline Top 50?

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SLAMonline Top 50 Players 2012
Rank Player Team Position Pos. Rank
50 Greg Monroe Pistons C 8
49 Tyreke Evans Kings PG 14
48 Brandon Jennings Bucks PG 13
47 Stephen Curry Warriors PG 12
46 Ricky Rubio TWolves PG 11
45 Al Jefferson Jazz PF 14
44 Anthony Davis Hornets PF 13
43 Serge Ibaka Thunder PF 12
42 Al Horford Hawks C 7
41 Ty Lawson Nuggets PG 10
40 Danny Granger Pacers SF 6
39 Tim Duncan Spurs PF 11
38 John Wall Wizards PG 9
37 Monta Ellis Bucks SG 8
36 Zach Randolph Grizzlies PF 10
35 Roy Hibbert Pacers C 6
34 Tyson Chandler Knicks C 5
33 Eric Gordon Hornets SG 7
32 Kevin Garnett Celtics PF 9
31 Manu Ginobili Spurs SG 6
30 Amar’e Stoudemire Knicks PF 8
29 Marc Gasol Grizzlies C 4
28 DeMarcus Cousins Kings C 3
27 Paul Pierce Celtics SF 5
26 Andre Iguodala Nuggets SG 5
25 Rudy Gay Grizzlies SF 4
24 Josh Smith Hawks PF 7
23 Derrick Rose Bulls PG 8
22 Joe Johnson Nets SG 4
21 Steve Nash Lakers PG 7
20 James Harden Thunder SG 3
19 Pau Gasol Lakers PF 6
18 Chris Bosh Heat PF 5
17 Kyrie Irving Cavs PG 6
16 LaMarcus Aldridge Blazers PF 4
15 Tony Parker Spurs PG 5
14 Dirk Nowitzki Mavs PF 3
13 Andrew Bynum Sixers C 2
12 Blake Griffin Clippers PF 2
11 Kevin Love TWolves PF 1
10 Carmelo Anthony Knicks SF 3
9 Russell Westbrook Thunder PG 4
8 Rajon Rondo Celtics PG 3
7 Deron Williams Nets PG 2
6 Dwyane Wade Heat SG 2
5 Dwight Howard Lakers C 1

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’12-13 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Maurice Bobb, Rodger Bohn, Brendan Bowers, Franklyn Calle, David Cassilo, Bryan Crawford, Adam Figman, Eldon Khorshidi, Eddie Maisonet III, Ryne Nelson, Ben Osborne, Allen Powell II, Sam Rubenstein, Jonathan Santiago, Abe Schwadron, Leo Sepkowitz, Dave Spahn, Ben Taylor, Tzvi Twersky, Peter Walsh, Tracy Weissenberg, Yaron Weitzman, DeMarco Williams and Dave Zirin.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • JML-G

    glad to see Eddy Curry will be above Howard this time

  • Junior Taylor

    Howard might see a dip in his offensive numbers (especially scoring-wise) with all the weapons surrounding him. I just don’t see the Lakers going to him on the block possession after possession when they have Gasol on one side and Kobe/Nash on the perimeter. I still expect him to lead the L in rebounds and continue playing excellent defense as always.

  • LakeShow

    So much for one a days?
    Wasn’t Wade today also?

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    I thought it was going to be one player a day from now on. No argument with this ranking.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    No.

  • LakeShow

    Solid ranking SLAM.

  • keyon dooling

    this guys the best player on the Lakers

  • LakeShow

    I do think that the argument could and should be made that he is better than Kobe now, but he is coming off back surgery and this might be “the D-Rose effect.”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Dwight should have been #2 or #3. This is wrong. Plain and Simple.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Will be interesting to see what this team looks like in January or February and whether Dwight gets tired of not getting the ball as much as he wants it.

  • Junior Taylor

    Is this a JOKE? So Slams believes that a 34yr old Kobe coming off one of his worst seasons (efficiency wise) is better than a 27yr old in the beginning of his prime? Looks like all the talk about Slam not caring about defense is actually true.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Kobe is the one who is currently hurt.

  • Junior Taylor

    Of course it’s a “solid” ranking in your eyes.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    If he were still in Orlando, I’d say 2 or 3 would be good. But given that the rankings are based on what is expected this season, I don’t think Dwight will be as productive as CP3. But I will say that Kobe should absolutely be behind Dwight. I really don’t understand why he is in the top 4. I didn’t see Kobe being ahead of Dwight at all. If he is ahead of Chris too, something is terribly wrong.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Nevermind, forgot about Kobe. This is Kobe’s rightful spot. Dwight should be 4 at least. No way in the world Kobe should be ahead of Dwight.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    SLAM knows Kobe gets page views, the higher he is, the higher the controversy. I can’t honestly believe the writers pay so little attention that they honestly believe this.

  • Dagger

    This is really sad. I thought SLAM’s rankings were going to be better than ESPN’s, but this is a huge mistake. There’s a pretty blatantly clear top-4 right now, and Kobe is not in it.

  • Perry the PlatyPteranodon

    I’m just gonna have to get this off my chest….

    WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!? Kobe above Dwight, what sort of sorcery do people think Kobe went through this summer? Did he find the fountain of youth? Did he do training with the ghost of Yoda or something?

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    I will wait to read the writeup on Kobe to see how much is said about his career compared to how much is said about what is expected from him this season. But this is wild to me.

  • Perry the PlatyPteranodon

    Maybe two, three years ago for sure…

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    ESPN’s rankings are based on who they think the best players are regardless of injury or what’s expected this season. SLAM’s rankings are different. But you’re right, Kobe isn’t top 4 no matter how you look at it. I just don’t see it.

  • Perry the PlatyPteranodon

    We should probably hold off on the Nike paying Slam conspiracies till after we see where Chris Paul lands…

  • LakeShow

    I see what your saying, but you know what i’m saying.
    Dwight had off season surgery…
    Kobe’s ankle is annoying him…

  • Dagger

    I would have said that I thought ESPN’s ranking of the best players would be worse than SLAM’s ranking of the most productive players next season, but that sounds a little wordy. Either way: this is disappointing.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    We have already seen Dwight play and move. And as everyone on earth heard during the summer, he wasn’t going to play until he was 100%. His off-season surgery, given that he is playing, is irrelevant.

  • axel

    kobe 4, Cp3 3, Durant 2, Lebum 1

  • LakeShow

    LeBum’s #1!

    LeBum’s #1!

    LeBum’s #1!

    LeBum’s #1!

  • LakeShow

    Nah, he is still very much recovering.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    ah yes, because you say so.

  • Junior Taylor

    Trust when I say that Howard won’t be playing if he is “still recovering”. Back pain is no joke, you can’t be jumping, cutting, extending or doing anything basketball related at a high level with back pain. I have watched Howard play the past 2 preseason games and he wasn’t grimacing like Scottie was in the late 90s when he suffered through the same back problems. The man is fully healthy.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    bruh, Lakeshow just wants to be right. ALL THE TIME….so Ofcourse the Lakers will risk Dwight’s future for some preseason games. duh.

  • Junior Taylor

    Thanks for making me look like a crazy person by busting out laughing in a quiet a** public library.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Looks like it’s going to be a lifetime achievement award for Kobe.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk
  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    LeBum? Guess you had no access to the Internet or a TV for the past 12 months.

  • LakeShow

    Naw, because I have watched their preseason games. As usual… I watch the games…
    Howard has been very limited while KB has been ballin.
    They are both in similar spots with their injuries now. Dwight’s health was more in question when they made these list. Use your noggin fellas.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    well you must have watched with your eyes closed. it is completely stupid to think the Lakers would put him in preseason games at less than 100%….and i, like you, have watched both preseason games he has played in.

  • LakeShow

    LOL. You honestly think Dwight is at 100%?? That says it all.

  • Junior Taylor

    I gotta refrain from reading your comments you’re going to get me kicked out of the library or better yet….arrested for disturbing the peace *literally*

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you think he isn’t? you think he’s putting up 14 10 and 3 in 28 minutes in preseason with a hurt back. you are dumb as hell if you think that.

  • Junior Taylor

    Explain to us then why the Lakers would risk their best chance at winning anything this season and their future for a chance at winning a few preseason games?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Dwight Howard – “I’m still trying to regain strength,” Howard told the Lakers’ team website. “I’m not playing until I’m 100 percent. Just because I’m doing drills with the team or running up and down, it doesn’t mean I’m ready to play in a game. There’s a difference between running up and down and being actually out there battling. When I’m 100 percent and able to go, then I’ll go.”

  • LakeShow

    Consider me dumb as hell then man.
    Dwight’s a beast, he’ll put up beastly numbers whether he is injured or not. He is close to healthy now, but 2 weeks ago it was as good a guess to say he wouldn’t be playing the first regular season game as to say he would. His injuries healing as well and as quickly as the have is considered way ahead of schedule.
    But I forgot i’m talking to Nostradamus here…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    “I’m still trying to regain strength,” Howard told the Lakers’ team website. “I’m not playing until I’m 100 percent. Just because I’m doing drills with the team or running up and down, it doesn’t mean I’m ready to play in a game. There’s a difference between running up and down and being actually out there battling. When I’m 100 percent and able to go, then I’ll go.”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    there is no guesswork to what i’m sayin. i am telling you factually, the Lakers aren’t going to Risk Dwight for Preseason Games. You arguing that is stupid. You still arguing it after you have seen proof? Makes you a stupid person.

  • LakeShow

    And here’s what makes you stupid:
    Yesterday 10/25/12 –
    -Q: On how his back feels:
    -Howard: I really didn’t get a chance to get a couple practices in before today’s game, but I was a little off with the timing and everything. All that stuff will come, though. It’s a process for all of us and for me. I’m not expecting to be 100 percent right now, but I’m expecting to be full force when it’s playoff time.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    19 points, 12 rebounds, 4 blocks in his first game? Yep, very limited.

  • LakeShow

    Ya’ll like to think I talk out my anoose, but I say things for a reason.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    his back is 100%. He is not back to where he was as a player (timing obviously being what should have given that away). but he is 100% healthy. They wouldn’t risk his health for preseason. That is stupid to argue.

    .
    .
    Same article,
    .
    Q: On how he feels physically:
    Howard: I feel pretty good after the game – a little sore, but that’s expected. Just trying to continue to learn the offense and for all of us to play out of the offense has been tough for us but we’re getting it. It’s going to take some time so everybody needs to bear with us during this process. I told the guys: ‘This is a process and we’re not going to get this overnight, and we’re playing for June.’ We always have to remember that. We have to stay focused and realize what our goal is at the end of the season.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you still talk out of your ass, you just make points that fit what you are saying. you don’t actually include all information, like him saying he is fine physically other than being a “little sore”.

  • LakeShow

    So when D-Rose is 100% percent healthy, he’s 100% ready to go right?
    NO.
    It takes allot of time to get back to where you were after surgery.
    Kobe didn’t have surgery during the off season, Howard did. The editors/writers took that into account when making this list and they opted to say Kobe would have a better season than Dwight.
    Knowing that Howard was not going to start the season 100%.
    I personally would have still placed Kobe lower than Dwight, but I can’t fault the writers for not knowing if Dwight was going to start the season or not.

  • LakeShow

    9-8-2 in his 2nd… yup limited

  • http://SLAMonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    No. 4 will be revealed on Monday. Let the anticipation build!

  • Kobe Fan

    even Kobe fans have to be shocked that either 1) Kobe is in the top 5, or 2) he’s not on this list

  • LakeShow

    You tend to forget about Kobe.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    where did i ever say Dwight was back to where he was as a player? I said, he is 100% healthy. he is, 100% healthy. He doesn’t have a hurt back, as you said in response to “you think he isn’t? you think he’s putting up 14 10 and 3 in 28 minutes in preseason with a hurt back. you are dumb as hell if you think that.”
    .
    - “Consider me dumb as hell then man”

    .
    If there were any risks to Dwight’s health, if he was anything less than 100% physically, the Lakers would not risk further injury. Again, to argue that, is stupid. — And the only thing surgery does is keeps a player from playing and staying in shape. Just like hurting a portion of your leg does. Missing time is missing time. right now, Dwight isn’t missing any time, Kobe is.

  • LakeShow

    In N’ Out is calling me gents.
    Grease burger goodness…

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    You tend to forget about reason when talking about Kobe or the Lakers.

  • booo

    Nooo- you are sooo wrong – you should eat some poo!

  • booo

    Ryne is actually lying, it will be on thursday – i mean how can you trust a guy whose parents can’t spell Ryan???

  • booo

    yes xxx

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Go away kid. Grown people are talking.

  • Peter Walsh

    damn, be easy.

  • Rainman

    First , this is a wrong placement, that goes withotu saying. Dwight is better than top 5. But all this write up did was talk about the Dwightmare and his thought process, and almost nothing about the individual player himself…

  • Rainman

    haha

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    what’d you expect me to say? i’ve always been honest about what i perceive to be going on around here.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    really? man you are a piece of work.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    awesome, i’m happy y’all aren’t puttin up the top spots during the weekend this year.

  • 23

    Just curious, would you be ok if Dwight was ahead of Durant??

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    as a projection? yeah, i would have. I don’t personally have it that way, but if they projected it i wouldn’t make a fuss. Dwight’s impact on the Lakers is going to be huge. He is no longer playing in Stan Van’s system that uses him more as a decoy than anything, and with the Los Angeles bright lights, his true value is going to be covered to a ridiculous extent. I actually have Dwight as the 2nd favorite for MVP even as the 3rd best player in the league because of the Los Angeles effect. — i do have a fuss with them putting him behind Kobe though. I really wouldn’t have said anything if Dwight was 4, as I can see the projection for Chris Paul. But behind Kobe? Like, defense is completely irrelevant then? Only scoring points, that’s what matters? Even if the difference in 6-10 points between the 2 will be separated by almost 20%!!!!! from the field….there really is just no justifying putting Kobe over Dwight.

  • http://twitter.com/Quis_Da_Realist Marquise Hall

    Man this is solid ranking, but i think carmelo anthony should be at least 4-7 on the list, but melo will make everyone believers this year when he goes to the eastern conference finals.

  • bravo

    kobe will be number 4! and he should be! this is correct ! he will be a killer elite this season!

    YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

  • LakeShow

    That’s everyone’s problem with Melo. He’s at best a Confererence Finals player. He will NEVER be in the Finals as the main dude on his team.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660600032 Tavoris Sinclair

    Clearly better than Dwight – Lebron, Durant.
    Probably better than Dwight – Paul.
    #3 or #4 seems about right. #5 feels like bigs are being undervalued this season.

  • 23

    I hear you. But in my eyes Durant has earned my respect moreso than Dwight. But realistically, Dwight should have the best season of everybody, considering other than maybe bynum, Dwight should run through every single center in the league

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660600032 Tavoris Sinclair

    yes. Lebron is clearly on another level. Paul, Durant, and Dwight are alone on the tier below him. Kobe shouldn’t be top 4. Heck, he hasn’t been better than Wade for about 3 years now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660600032 Tavoris Sinclair

    he’s not going to have a dip in his scoring numbers. This is the first time he’s played with more than one player who knows how to throw an entry pass. He’d get his 21 off high-low feeds from Gasol and offensive rebounds.

  • rkirby

    The fact that Dwight Howard, an 8 year vet, could get plays run for him outside of alley-oops in Orlando tells me all I need to know about his ranking. Great help defender and rebounder, little else.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    If only that were true

  • greg

    You guys fail to realize that people thought Dwight was gonna be a lot below full strength on opening night when they made these rankings, so although it’s incorrect, it dies make sense

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660600032 Tavoris Sinclair

    I still think he’s too low despite the injury. Two of the 4 players above him have more pressiing injury issues.

  • Caboose

    Slam, this is utter shite. Honestly, reevaluate who you have voting for this list because there is a CLEAR bias.

  • Caboose

    Look at Dwight’s rankings (not counting this year): 5, 5, 6. Those have ALL BEEN WRONG. You’d think they’d learn. Sigh.

  • LakeShow

    Like you would know anything about being a kobe fan Kobe Fan!

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    So people just screw around and get 20 points a game?

  • Bored

    rondo is going to have a better season than kobe. so is melo and dwight and probably deron too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    I’m a huge Bryant fan but this is a horrible choice…Bean should be #5…Howard is the best player on the Lakers.

  • Showtime

    34 old kobe is a top3 player still huh..lol,, slam does something asinine like this ever year..got to luv em

  • http://www.facebook.com/qcollingwood Interdico Scriptor

    Kobe is too high….. No way he’s PROJECTED to be this high. Which NBA do you watch!

  • PB

    Nice to know that Andrea Bargnani will be top four. :P

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Sacrificing babies for strength.

  • Drig

    OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!

  • Drig

    lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Bahaha

  • LakersTheBlog.com

    Kobe always gets good treatment from Slam. Probably would’ve flipped Mamba Bean and Dwight, but it’s all good. Lebron by a country mile over KD for #1

  • Slick Ric

    Slam does know this guy is the best player on the lakers right?

  • danpowers

    1 james 2 durant 3 paul 4 howard 5 wade 6 bryant. that wouldve been an appropiate order

  • Slick Ric

    …You fools saying MJ had no competition, don’t you know Great centers are more valuable to winning championships than any other position? Ewing, Robinson, Hakeem, Shaq, Alonzo was his competition. You ask for perimeter players? KJ, Tim hardaway, Penny, Grant hill, Stockton, Payton, Clyde Drexler, Reggie miller, Dominique Wilkins, mark price, steve smith. We already know about Barkley, Malone etc…

  • Ugh

    Kobe: can shoot beyond 5 feet, can play on-ball defence, can hit free throws, can be relied upon in clutch, can coach all 5 positions albeit unpleasantly. Dwight can dunk, grab rebounds in the half-court and block off-ball weak side jumpers.

  • Yesse

    I really can’t understand how Kobe got in the top 5.

    He is old now and after this season, Dwight will probably be the star of Lakers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/qcollingwood Interdico Scriptor

    Uh… I can’t handle it… I’m outta here…. Hahahaha LakeShow you got PUNKED. For the 2nd time in this top fitty I AGREE WITH NBK.

  • http://www.facebook.com/qcollingwood Interdico Scriptor

    get a room boys

  • http://www.facebook.com/qcollingwood Interdico Scriptor

    ZING

  • Omar

    Kobe is going to be #3. He should have been #6. I have him at #7 person behind the usual suspect and Rondo.

  • Drig

    Kobe’s gonna rule LAL till he retires man.

  • Drig

    Now…….replace Dwight with Shaq and go back to ’01. Your argument breaks down.

  • jeff nwagbo

    Lebron Durant Howard Kobe Wade….slam f’d up..howard took a bunch of scrubs to the nba finals ..antics or not he made a team that started jj reddick and hedo turkolu very good defensively

  • justin05

    SLAM just knows more about basketball then you pal..

  • lebronwest

    Actually i think DH should be the NO.2, he is the only player whose affection on both offensive and defensive end is very close to Lebron,He’s the only one who leads couples of rubbish teammates to beat LBJ.

  • The Seed

    Howard is actually the number 1 player, because what he brings defensively and offensively. Bron does not bring it defensively like he is being shown on ESPN, from behind blocks. Lebron did not stop KD, he still got his, but KD’s fire was missing. Howard on the Lakers with the BLACK MAMBA who is the ring LEader in the NBA, will get his two rings, then everyone will hate on Kobe again for having more rings that most of the stars in the NBA combine will be over 30 years old and still balling, almost leading the lead in points score per game. Nobody has had a year like kobe had last year at 16 years in the game. Kobe will get his and I feel be top 3 MVP candidate. Kobe could have won last year if Pau and Artest stepped up more and helped the Lakers get a better record. Howard is the number one player to me because what he brings on both ends, but Slam is all right, but yall messed up on alot of players in the top 50. To many to comment on. Wade is not top 10 no more either. Wade feels he is a role player now, go listen to the PUNK now.

  • brad09′

    junior taylor, thats a joke. Kobe had his 6th highest ppg average hes ever had. hes also shot 43 percent in a season in both the 03-04, and the 04-05 seasons. His dimes and rebounds have been around his career averages. Take into account this was a short season.

  • brad09′

    if we were ranking athletes maybe. But were actually ranking basketball players here, it requires some real skills. Name one real basketball skill dwight has, post game? jumper? Passer? can he handle? great leader? hmmmmmmmm

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    It’s about how effective of a player you are. Skill and the ability to apply them are different. Some guys don’t need as much skill because they have more natural ability.
    .

  • Diipp

    17 seasons. Thats how long 24 has wanted a roster like this. A pass first pg (the best passing) and a defensive minded Pivot(best). What would 23 do if he got a roster he couldn’t complain about. (aka a John Stockton/David Robinson kinda addition.) Very similar to what 24 will do.

    24 has more heart and desire then we will see in anybody else in the top 5. Slam knows this (see Top 50) and you and all you 24 hatters as well. 24 isn’t playing around and its not a good sign for the rest of the league and your arguments.

  • Andreanglais

    Kobe > Howard. (still). At the start of the season, ask yourself whose loss would hurt the lakers more. Answer: Bryant’s. Simple.

  • Harlem_World

    There’s also the Nash effect. Nash lives in another world compared to Jameer Nelson in terms of facilitating easy scores for athletic bigs. Dwight will get more ‘easy’ points than he’s ever had in his career in addition to single coverage

  • Irishway’s

    did u get this list off your 2K13 menu no just playing its a good list. Just wish D.Rose was a little higher hurt or not thats the former MVP……

  • http://www.facebook.com/qcollingwood Interdico Scriptor

    Two days… where are the rest???

  • http://www.facebook.com/evan.boland Evan Boland

    For real, I watched 62 or so of the 66 games last season, and Kobe is still a better player than Howard. Dude can’t shoot FT’s, and barely shows up in the 4th. People claiming CP3 and Dwight better than the Black Mamba are stat guy’s. He shot 43% because Mike Brown doesn’t understand offense and Pau doesn’t call for the ball. He took so many desperation shots at the end of the clock. Nobody else on that squad wanted the ball. Other than MWP.. We’ll all see who’s better this season. And BTW, Rondo > CP3. Watch the playoffs. Or for you stat guy’s, go look at their lines..

  • Max

    If it was a long season Kobe’s stats would be even worse cause at the end he was gassed out.

  • Max

    NO

  • Ugh

    My argument is presenting what Kobe can do vs what Dwight can do. Shaq has nothing to do with it.

    For the record, Shaq in ’01 could run the full-court, pass extremely well out of double and triple teams, had exceptional footwork when he needed to use it (which wasn’t often) and could play good man-to-man defense. He wasn’t as good a shot-blocker as Dwight (a definite hole in his game) and was a more consistent if, on average, worse free throw shooter.

  • Drig

    Dwight can run the floor. It’s Kobe and Pau who’ll tire out. Dwight’s a decent enough passer and can score well enough in today’s L vs opposing Cs.

    I brought Shaq into the discussion because Kobe was able to do all of those things even back then and Shaq was just like Dwight but a bit more dominant.

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