Tuesday, October 20th, 2009 at 8:00 am  |  168 responses

Top 50: Dwight Howard, no. 5

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Myles Brown/@mdotbrown

The sun was at its peak on a glorious July afternoon in southern Florida. There wasn’t a cloud in sight and from here the tourists scurrying about the park were nothing moDwight Howardre than ants on a picnic table. From here, Dwight Howard was literally on top of the world.

Alone in the Aéro30, suspended 400 feet above Disney World, he rested his chiseled frame on a guardrail and marveled at a breathtaking view of the Magic Kingdom. ‘The only thing that could make this day better is a parade’, he sighed. As they had since the end of his season last month, his thoughts eventually turned to those fateful free throws and whether he’d ever get an opportunity to redeem himself. But on this day he was determined to leave the past as just that.

Back on solid ground, Howard continued with his itinerary. He went back in time on the Primeval Whirl, gasping at the twists, turns and startlingly lifelike dinosaurs. He strolled the Maharajah Jungle Trek and learned the Komodo dragon is actually just a big lizard. He delightfully sung along with every verse of the Finding Nemo musical. Twice. He shook hands, posed for pictures and signed autographs. Dwight Howard was having too much fun.

And then it happened. A loud gurgling emitted from his stomach. His abdomen tightened with discomfort as his bowels violently shifted, demanding relief. Dwight Howard had too much spicy curry chicken last night.

The wailing child still propped on his shoulders served as a siren for those in Howard’s path as he left behind a shoe, $1.31 in change and a nauseating streak of flatulence on his way to the nearest restroom.

Bursting through the door and into an empty stall, for the next five minutes the prodigious pivot let loose a comically animated series of discharges. Exhaling with glee upon conclusion, it wasn’t until he noticed the oversized loafers in the adjacent stall that Dwight became aware of his company and was slightly embarrassed. But before the poopetrator could muster an apology he was interrupted by the stranger’s cell phone.

Howard smiled at the sound of the ring tone-a rendition of ‘Onward, Christian Soldiers’-and couldn’t help but to eavesdrop on the conversation.“Yes, dear…. I know, I’m sorry, I’ll be out soon….Oh, okay, well where do they want to go?……Alright, I’ll meet you there in a bit….Love you too.”

Timid, but impressed with the stranger’s tenderness and relieved that he didn’t interrupt it with further indigestion, Dwight tapped the wall between them as a sign of approval. The stranger tapped back. Jim Severson didn’t bother to wash his hands and grabbed his son’s arm as he rushed out of the restroom, quizzically peering over his shoulder, clueless as to what would transpire next.

Howard and his neighbor simultaneously emerged from their stalls, both startled by what they saw.

“Dwight?” the stranger exclaimed.

“Mr.Robinson?”

Though it was his favorite movie, David Robison decided not to join his family for the Voyage of the Little Mermaid because it was difficult enough to spend that much time watching an underage, half-naked white girl in the animated feature. But a live performance? No thanks.

This being their first meeting, the Hall of Famer and his successor exchanged pleasantries and didn’t realize that they’d been drifting around the park for hours before arriving at the Teacup rides. They looked at each other and both knew that there was no way they weren’t going to give it a whirl. The two giants compacted themselves into a teacup and as the ride began, their conversation took a more serious turn.

“You know Dwight, before my career began my favorite Bible story was always the Book of Job. I thought the unimaginable suffering he endured as a testament to his faith should be inspirational to us all. But after I retired and looked back on things, I changed my mind. Not about Job-he still inspires me-but it just wasn’t my favorite story anymore. Now my favorite story is the one I identify with most, David and Goliath.”

Howard’s bulky neck tilted with confusion and his brow furrowed as Robinson continued.

“The character of a Christian is tested daily in such a powerful and hedonistic lifestyle as the NBA’s. Money, ego, drugs, alcohol, women….”

Howard cleared his throat, pursed his lips and looked downward in solemn contemplation. The teacups kept right on twirling.

“…and it seems at times in order to appeal or relate to people you need to engage in such activity. Public opinion has equated Christianity with pantywaisted squaredom and there were questions of whether I could lead or secure endorsements because of my faith. But I earned credibility both on and off the court and that influence has been able to do wonderful things for several people. The NBA Cares and Community assist awards may be fodder for cynical columnists, but I’ve seen the lives I and others have touched and thankfully I was blessed with enough money to do so much more. Hopefully God will bless me with a long life so that I can achieve those goals. I see that you take pride in this too and you should be inspired by your wealth, youth and the good that you can do with your life, Dwight.”

This filled the young center with joy. The approval of such a stellar example as Robinson meant everything to him and he hung on his elder’s every word.

“But your career-your lifespan in this game-is so much shorter and you must seize every opportunity. I wanted to be seen as a leader, a positive role model, a great player and a champion. I always knew this was just a game, but I wanted to use my God given ability to its fullest extent and blaze a new trail for men of a higher purpose. To show that you could be an all-time great and a man of God. However, sometimes I feel like I’ve fallen short and in my darker moments I even feel like I failed. Like I should’ve left a bigger mark. I wanted to show just how much a man of God could achieve and it’s an awful feeling to think that I could’ve achieved more. You don’t want to feel that way Dwight.”

Howard frowned not only at the thought of such a feeling, but in compassion for Robinson, whom he felt was being too hard on himself. Surely no one would consider such an accomplished career as a failure. Still, Robinson continued.

“A man, even one such as myself, wants to leave an indelible mark on this sport and that requires defeating other men of similar purpose. Men who will stop at nothing to leave that mark, not even if it means succumbing to their own ego and desires at the cost of others and their own soul. It’s a dangerous path, look at Michael for Christ’s sake. He became his own idol.

But that’s the kicker, the same thing that drove Michael is the same thing that drives the rest of us. Establishing yourself, leaving a mark, fulfilling potential, blah, blah, blah. It all involves one thing, winning. In order to win in this league you have to be truly driven. Single minded, obsessed even. But you can’t let the game, the desire consume you Dwight. That is where we must avoid the sins of pride and false idolatry. But you know what else? No one else is willing to play by those rules. The history books won’t care about your character, only your accomplishments. And let me tell you something, Wilt was right. it’s tough to be David when you’re built like Goliath.”

The teacups began to whirl at an unnatural speed and a cold wind cut across Howard’s face. He struggled with the complexities of such advice and it was tough to concentrate over the children’s cries for help. He became nervous. Robinson, wingspan encompassing the entire cup, remained calm.

“People tell me that I accomplished so much and it’s should be a testament to my faith that I maintained my beliefs while receiving so many accolades. But everything that I’ve achieved is a big fucking joke.”

And with that, a roaring fire was lit behind Mr.Robinson’s pupils. His rippling muscles swelled, his bloodstream visibly rushed and he almost seemed to be growing. Dwight was past nervous. He was getting scared.

“Maybe I should’ve been more aggressive, maybe God would’ve understood. Everything I achieved has been discredited. What am I remembered for? An MVP I apparently didn’t deserve, getting smothered by Olajuwon, emasculated by Rodman and crushed by Shaq. I never received any real recognition until recently and even that was short lived. People don’t even respect my rings! They’re Duncan’s! It’s bullshit!”

Robinson’s voice boomed and now there was no questions about it. He was growing right before Dwight’s eyes. The seams of his shirt popped, the buttons flew, his feet tore through the soft leather and the teacup cracked as it struggled to contain him. Onlookers fled and as Robinson literally grew through the ceiling the cracks revealed a sky filled with ominous black clouds. But the Spurs’ eyes remained fixated on his target who was paralyzed by fear.

“But now people actually have the nerve to compare you to me? I am David Robinson and so I know for damn sure that you’re no David Fucking Robinson! I scored 71 points in a game and won a scoring title! I averaged four and a half blocks with two steals in my third season! I was a threat from inside and out, I beat guards up the floor and jumped over centers!

You want to be me? Ha! Look at you, I was an unquestionable centerpiece of my team, yours won’t even give you the ball no matter how high your FG% is! A body and skills like that, yet you only took 12 shots a game last year?! And that was a career high? Are you fucking kidding me! Your team was the first in NBA history to take more than a third of their shots from three, they don’t respect you, you’re a joke!”

Howard tried to remain strong, but he no longer feared the imposing figure before him as much as it’s words. He was scared they were the truth.

“Do you know how long and how hard I had to fight to get what I’ve got? But the road to a championship has been practically fucking steamrolled and paved for you! There’s no Barkley, no Malone, no Olajuwon, there’s no one! You’re the only center in the league and you still refuse to dominate! Who is in your way? A hobbled K.G.? I’d tear right through that motherfucker! What do have to fear, Shaq?! Not only is he a shell of himself but he’s the antithesis of everything we’ve tried to represent! Humility, hard work, respect, loyalty…yet they fawn at his supposed greatness while he openly mocks us! Are you going to stand for that?! Huh, Superman?!”

Robinson was now more than 400 feet tall and chaos erupted around him. His bellowing could be heard over the emergency sirens for miles. Buildings crumbled around him, the earth shook and a torrential rain drenched Howard as his lip quivered and he began to swallow his tongue.

“You’re no David Robinson! If you were you’d have a post game. You’d make your free throws. You’d seize the leadership role. You’re no David Robinson, because David Fucking Robinson wouldn’t be at Disney World after blowing the NBA Finals, would he?! Would he?!”

Surrounded by flames and deafening screams Howard felt as though his heart could exlode at any moment. His mentor showed no mercy.

“ANSWER ME!!!”

Dumbfounded and petrified, Dwight David Howard did the only thing his body would allow.

He farted.

And then he woke up.

Drenched in sweat and surrounded by a foul stench, Howard leapt out of bed and bolted for the toilet. Alone in his bathroom at 3:15 AM he sat, still unsure of how to balance the principles of his faith with those of his profession. He was pretty sure that Shaq wasn’t the antichrist though.

He was however, certain of three things. He did have too much spiced curry chicken earlier that evening. He needn’t worry about comparisons to David Robinson yet, since he was entering his sixth season and will still be younger than the Admiral was as a rookie.

And he wasn’t going to Disney World tomorrow. He was going to the gym.

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’09-10 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
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  • tavoris

    Omar, it’s because people think Duncan is old and creaky…while he’s older, he’s been ridiculously durable his whole career

  • jeremy

    this was seriously difficult to read. i haven’t felt so embarrassed for a writer since proof-reading student’s paper’s in english 101.

  • http://hoopmixtape.ning.com/ Simon S.Y Lawy

    cause Timmy never a Press Boy … Press boy exp:
    Lebrooom james aka queen james , CP3, and superman .

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @tealish: Dwight’s had five seasons already to develop his offensive game. You’re right – I think you’re either have that “knack” for having a post game, or you don’t, and I think he doesn’t too. Didn’t we hear he was adding short/mid-range jump shot a summer or two ago?

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @jukai: Vince is one of the most versatile in the league. He shoots threes any which way. What are you talking about?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    That was a funny story Myles. I actually thought those earlier quotes had been taken from David Robinson’s Hall of Fame speech because they sounded exactly like something he would have said.
    And comparing Dwight Howard to David Robinson is criminal. Just criminal.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Regardless of the guys flaws, Dwight gets it done an is a pure beast, granted he’s not the most clutch player in the league, but generally speaking the clutch players on a team are the perimeter player which he has plenty of. Outside of Tim Duncan and maybe a couple other bigs, interior players are there to put of the last shot in a game. The guy is an absolute beast defensivly and gets ALOT of hustle points. Even if his offensve repertoire doesn’t expand that much, he’s still gonna be top five this season. Not having those offensive skills is going to effect him the most is when he gets older and less athletic and has to use his brains on offense as opposed to his current “I’m gonna dunk on you no matter how you try to gaurd me” offense. As for right now though, He’s the most dominant big in the league, period.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    The spurs kept feeding him for his 71 pts and they were playing the clips. Shaq got 60 or something and they wanted to make sure david won the scoring title. It’s not like kob’s 81 or mike’s 63 where they just went off. The gameplan was to get him the ball all night and get the scoring title. An incredible feat nonetheless.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Yeah, I don’t really care how or why a player gets 71 pts in a game….it’s 71 freaking points in 48 minutes…rediculous.

  • Kas

    Is this supposed to be good writing? Is this supposed to be funny? Is this supposed to explain why dwight is number 5 on this? Worst piece of crap I’ve ever seen on these pages.

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba/overdribbling/index276.html chiqo

    wow.

  • J.C.

    So this basically seemed like an argument for why Dwight SHOULDN’T be at number 5… In terms of the article, good points but it was far too long. I found myself scrolling down to see how much longer it was going to be because I just wanted to finish it.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    so J.C., because you have a short attention span, it’s bad writing? This piece is solid, stop all the hate!

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS

    one of my most favorite/entertaining moments with the kids here is when they cannot figure out(like most video game “coaches”) the reason why a player that shoots with great percentages/efficiency (Nene, Biedrins, Howard,etc..) doesn’t get the ball more often to go for 30…..

  • tavoris

    Nene has had only ONE healthy season. no comparison. Biedrins plays in a system where there is no real need for inside scoring. Howard get more touches than both, but still far too few. You may not like the fact that Howard has limited offensive skills (so does your fave, Sofo), but that doesn’t change the fact that he is a matchup NIGHTMARE if the fed him moore often. On another note, please, stop trying to incite a reaction, PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS. In case you haven’t realized (read below), that’s called “trolling”.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Tavoris
    I thought you weren’t going to waste anymore keystrokes on dude.
    You gotta stay strong homie.

  • tavoris

    we hve it figured out…SVG spends WAY too much time overcoaching the Magic. If you have a player as predictable-yet effective-as Howard, then you don’t need to coach much. I don’t care if all he does is dunk and jump-hooks…until the opposing big stops it, he should be fed. As it is, he gets probably 6 shots out of the offense, whereas the rest come off garbage points and offensive rebounds…that’s ridiculous for a 20pt scorer who doesn’t have a real challenger to his strength, quickness, and hops.

  • ENDS

    Still hasn’t reached full potentiall and has shown great strides. Top player at his position shouldve been number 4 cause I cant say CP3 (who is obviously next) is the top choice number one at his position (Derrick Rose anyone)

  • http://realcavsfans.com Anton

    It’s on me…to set an illegal moving screen for my brotherhood.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @ tavoris: I agree that dwight needs more touches but you gotta understand how effective their offense was during the regular season. They were killing all the top teams. Part of the reason they weren’t feeding dwight was cause most of the time he didn’t have a go-to move. He should be getting 18 shots a game. It’s a catch 22

  • TADOne

    Right spot.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    DAVID F*CKING ROBINSON

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    David is actually overrated in my book. He never had the heart for the game. He loved piano more and he said basketball is just a job. He didn’t love it the way mike or magic did. Year he won mvp, hakeem tore him a new one. Even rodman said he lost respect for d-rob because he could see the fear in his eyes before they played hou. It was a duncan ring and he was fortunate enough to get one before he got out. Charles and karl deserved a ring far worse than david f*cking robinson as russ would say.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    CB34 PLEASE READ!!!
    Career awards/accomplishments
    His list of awards and accomplishments is long and include a number of records as well as sharing a number of distinctions with very few other luminaries of the game; for his on the court play, he was named among the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History.

    NBA Champion (1999, 2003)
    NBA MVP (1995)
    NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1992)
    NBA Rookie of the Year (1990)
    All-NBA First Team (1991, ’92, ’95, ’96)
    All-NBA Second Team (1994, ’98)
    All-NBA Third Team (1990, ’93, 2000, ’01)
    All-Defensive First Team (1991, ’92, ’95, ’96)
    All-Defensive Second Team (1990, ’93, ’94, ’98)
    10-time NBA All-Star
    Only player in NBA history to win the Rebounding, Blocked Shots, and Scoring Titles and Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year and MVP
    One of only four players to have recorded a quadruple-double
    NBA Sportsmanship Award (2001)
    Third player in NBA history to rank among the league’s top 10 in five categories in one season (7th in scoring (23.2 ppg), 4th in rebounding (12.2 rpg), 1st in blocks (4.49 per game), 5th in steals (2.32 per game) and 7th in field-goal percentage (.551))
    First player in NBA history to rank among the top five in rebounding, blocks and steals (per game) in a single season[7]
    Fourth player ever to score 70+ in an NBA game
    3-time Olympian (1988, ’92, ’96)
    One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996)
    Led NBA in Scoring (1993–94 season) – 29.8 ppg
    Led NBA in Rebounding (1990–91 season) – 13.0 rpg
    Led NBA in Blocked Shots (1991–92 season) – 4.49 bpg
    Holds record for most IBM Awards (1990, ’91, ’94, ’95, ’96)
    His 10,497 rebounds and 2,954 blocked shots are the most by any player wearing a San Antonio Spurs jersey, and his 20,790 points are second most only to George Gervin’s 23,602. (Had only Gervin’s NBA numbers been taken into account, Robinson would be #1 in this category; Gervin scored 4,219 of his points while the franchise was in the American Basketball Association.)
    Gold Medal in 1986 FIBA World Championship.[13]
    Member of Dream Team #1 during Olympic Games at Barcelona.
    Elected into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame.
    Elected to the U.S. Olympic Hall of Fame Class of 2008

    HE is very Overrated, Yet Right, I would take him over Shaq anyday. Plant that Seed!!!

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    @CB34 Yeah man, and that dude Robinson even took a few years off basketball at the start of his career to deal with some other stuff I heard. No commitment, no heart.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @ seed: I never said the dude wasn’t talented but he wasn’t even the most talented center in his time, hakeem and shaq were. When he won the ring , he was on the decline and it was apparent. Duncan bailed his a$$ out. He didn’t deserve it as far as i’m concerned cause he didn’t even love basketball and he said that. It just rubs me the wrong way. You’re crazy if you’re gonna take this piano-loving jerk over the shaq of the three-peat. That’s crazy talk. Go smoke some more seed.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Who was David Robinson’s best teammate before the Spurs got Duncan? I’ll wait.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @ tealish: Yeah,he had no heart. He got by on pure talent cause dude was a freak of nature. I still remember clearly the 2 months they weren’t sure he was gonna be sent to desert storm or not. His numbers went down drastically and it was fun watching him because he was like a deer in headlights. He was different and dominant so that buys him a spot automatically as one of the all-time greats but he hardly did anything for that ring. Tim carried him all the way. He shouldn’t have won one.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    @ CB34, I wonder if David Robinson played with the PLAYER OF THE DECADE, if he would have won more titles, and Shaq game stopped the Lakers, for the three peat was his best years, David Robinson had a more consistent career and never played with a talent until Tim Duncan. Really, so if you put Kobe as great as he was with David during those years, they do the same thing. Remeber Kobe went off on SA every year, average almost 30, and like Dwight-Shaq can’t hit free throws, so guess who had the ball at the end of games Kobe. Shaq was great, but when he finishes his career he will be just another center who dominated, plus don’t you think Shaq wasted his talent, never stayed in shape and lucked into a 4th title as a role player. So the seed I use is good, but piano loving jerk never said I will rest on Company Time, so what about that statement from the Big Stock Trader #34.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    OK, I’ll give you names — Dennis Rodman, who made the All-NBA Third Team once despite being thoroughly insane, and Sean Elliott, a two-time All-Star mostly off the strength of playing with someone like Robinson inside. And whilst Duncan was the man on that ’99 team, I think even he’d admit he couldn’t have done it without the Admiral.

  • tavoris

    Russ…don’t forget Willie Anderson and Vinny Del Negro…(kidding). @ Allenp, I couldn’t resist…that prick is always tryin to downplay the abilities of NBA players, while lauding those Euro-flops’ mediocre skills…Tiago Splitter, Sofo, Pekovic…puhleeze. Neither could beat Mikki Moore or Dalembert for a starting spot.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @ russ: Sean is a great player and he never needed to play off of david. He would have gotten his either way. When they won everything in 99, everything was clicking for them in the playoffs including jaren jackson. Let’s not forget this is the shortened season so it’ll always have an asterisk bedide it. Doesn’t really count.His title in 2003 was a sham. They played a nets team that was simply overmatched and he was almost out the door. Like i said, he doesn’t deserve one.

  • Mo

    Man I know there’s gonna be some serious a** hatin goin on tomorrow.

  • tavoris

    Russ…didn’t Elliott get an All-Star appearance his one year in Detroit? A lot of people slept on him, but he was an excellent player. Robinson, on the other hand, was EVERYTHING. He could score, rebound, defend the ENTIRE paint, &run the floor better than EVERY other big in the league. Everyone remembers Hakeem giving it to him, but noone really notices how Admiral was-at his peak-the best center in basketball.

  • http://salmonline Levi Yeti

    you can only beat the teams u play and jukai must b the only person who knows about basketball

  • http://IJustWantMyNameToLookBig.com Chukaz

    really? this is not good. Not good at all. It’s a freakin joke.
    #4. Steve Blake, #3. Travis Outlaw, #2. Kenyon Dooling, #1. Marcin Gortat

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @ tavoris: When was he exactly the best center? Be specific please.

  • http://realcavsfans.com Anton

    Chukaz, don’t be a knucklehead.
    4. Larry Hughes
    3. Ben Wallace in zombie form
    2. Sun Yue
    1. Luke Walton’s stalker

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @ seed: Yeah that’s right, that’s shaq. I don’t agree with the rehab always on company time but i’ll take that any day along with the bad ft% and the days he’s just lugging around. That is still the most dominant big man to ever play the game. There isn’t any circumstance that i’d take d-rob over shaq. You really are crazy. And don’t give me that wilt and bill argument either. Shaq would have mowed them down just the same. Remember they never changed the rules for mike but they did for shaq because it was already unfair. Best big man ever no matter what the baggage. D-rob my a$$.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Tavoris
    If Robinson’s peak coincided with Hakeem’s peak, then he wasn’t the best center in basketball.
    Just being able to do more doesn’t make you better. Remember the discussion regarding Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett a while back?

  • tavoris

    cb…I’d say from 90-91 to 93-94…

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    cb34
    They changed the rules for Kareem and Wilt as well.
    Just so you know.

  • tavoris

    Allenp, Hakeem was excellent during his career, but he peaked during Houston’s title years. Hakeem was just as versatile, but he didn’t control the lane quite like D-Rob…Robinson affected ALL shots from 15 feet in, not just layups and dunks.

  • http://dfkjslf.com Jukai

    Cb34: I’m sorry, but Shaq and Hakeem are in the top five best centers ever. Robinson is six or seven. If David Robinson played today, the numbers he’d get would be astronomical.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    For the record, Elliott only made the All-Star game twice, both times as a Spur.

  • http://slamonline.com 360vue

    @tavoris and your early comments. you are quite simply as deluded as those who believe in the creation myth. Firstly, the magic should not have “easily disposed of the Lakers”, they weren’t even tipped to pass the Sixers, let alone progress to the finals. they blindsided their way to the last round. Also, if you believe a current TD is still better than a Dwight you are a bit of a ‘tard. Personally, TD is the greatest PF to have played, ahead of Malone or Barkley, he has pretty much definied what a modern PF is… Even now, he will guarantee you 18/10 with at a push a few blocks. However, even in spite of his very limited offensive ability, Howard could easily manage and more than likely exceed 25 ppg (a fact backed up by his touches to points ratio, and his fg%, if he worked on his sucky FTs he could manage in the region of 30+). Quite simply, Howard is indominatable inside, no-one can restrict him inside the key, unless they take him to the line, but you can’t do that all game or you’ll pick up your six and be on your way out of the arena. Additionally, Howard could quite easily manage 13rpg and 3bpg; all of which combined far outstrips Duncans output. No-one in the world of basketball is going to deny that TD is much more rounded player than dwight, he is mr fundamental ffs. Nevertheless, the sheer abundance of quality that superman does possess in his good attributes means he is a far more potent weapon than TD, thus the more than justifiable ranking. Dwight needs a lot of work on nearly a dozen aspects of his game, but that doesnt mean he is a worse player, if it does for you, you need to look at the bigger picture.

    @ PANAGIOTIS, normally i never intend any disrespect to people on this board, but your list of top PFs/Cs is the most moronic thing i have read in a long while. A long past it Shaq over dwight?!?! Whilst coincedentally 3 of your top 5 are European, two of which I would agree with, but one of whom isnt even in the L. THE BIGGEST LMFAO EVER. Tens of millions go into NBA scout networks, don’t you think they’d of picked up upon a 23year Center if he was a good as u say (and ive seen him for Serbia, he didnt even stand out)… over Bosh? over KG? over Dwight? over STAT? over Shaq? over West? over Smith? over Aldridge? over Boozer?

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @ allen: Yeah they changed the rules for wilt and kareem but we’re talking about the level of ball today. You don’t think shaq would have abused kareem like a red-headed stepchild. Wouldn’t even be close. D-rob had unique skills but he was never as dominant as shaq was.
    @ jukai: I never said he wasn’t talented. But that’s what i hate about him, he was too good to be ignored that he never really cared for it that much. He admitted to not loving basketball and how it’s just a job. Passion should be the one defining characteristic of an athlete. He never had it. He would much rather play the piano. On that talent alone, it got him to being one of the top 50 ever but i’m just not a fan of players not committed to their sport.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    And for my money, with some focus and more touches, Da-White should definitely be in the MVP conversation next season. Which puts him in the top five. Plus he led the L in rebounds AND blocks last season, something Mr. Robinson never did (he led the L in both once, but not in the same season). Hakeem did it once. Shaq never led the League in either category. Ever.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @ russ: Are you saying you would take d-rob over shaq any day?

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