Tuesday, October 20th, 2009 at 8:00 am  |  168 responses

Top 50: Dwight Howard, no. 5

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Myles Brown/@mdotbrown

The sun was at its peak on a glorious July afternoon in southern Florida. There wasn’t a cloud in sight and from here the tourists scurrying about the park were nothing moDwight Howardre than ants on a picnic table. From here, Dwight Howard was literally on top of the world.

Alone in the Aéro30, suspended 400 feet above Disney World, he rested his chiseled frame on a guardrail and marveled at a breathtaking view of the Magic Kingdom. ‘The only thing that could make this day better is a parade’, he sighed. As they had since the end of his season last month, his thoughts eventually turned to those fateful free throws and whether he’d ever get an opportunity to redeem himself. But on this day he was determined to leave the past as just that.

Back on solid ground, Howard continued with his itinerary. He went back in time on the Primeval Whirl, gasping at the twists, turns and startlingly lifelike dinosaurs. He strolled the Maharajah Jungle Trek and learned the Komodo dragon is actually just a big lizard. He delightfully sung along with every verse of the Finding Nemo musical. Twice. He shook hands, posed for pictures and signed autographs. Dwight Howard was having too much fun.

And then it happened. A loud gurgling emitted from his stomach. His abdomen tightened with discomfort as his bowels violently shifted, demanding relief. Dwight Howard had too much spicy curry chicken last night.

The wailing child still propped on his shoulders served as a siren for those in Howard’s path as he left behind a shoe, $1.31 in change and a nauseating streak of flatulence on his way to the nearest restroom.

Bursting through the door and into an empty stall, for the next five minutes the prodigious pivot let loose a comically animated series of discharges. Exhaling with glee upon conclusion, it wasn’t until he noticed the oversized loafers in the adjacent stall that Dwight became aware of his company and was slightly embarrassed. But before the poopetrator could muster an apology he was interrupted by the stranger’s cell phone.

Howard smiled at the sound of the ring tone-a rendition of ‘Onward, Christian Soldiers’-and couldn’t help but to eavesdrop on the conversation.“Yes, dear…. I know, I’m sorry, I’ll be out soon….Oh, okay, well where do they want to go?……Alright, I’ll meet you there in a bit….Love you too.”

Timid, but impressed with the stranger’s tenderness and relieved that he didn’t interrupt it with further indigestion, Dwight tapped the wall between them as a sign of approval. The stranger tapped back. Jim Severson didn’t bother to wash his hands and grabbed his son’s arm as he rushed out of the restroom, quizzically peering over his shoulder, clueless as to what would transpire next.

Howard and his neighbor simultaneously emerged from their stalls, both startled by what they saw.

“Dwight?” the stranger exclaimed.

“Mr.Robinson?”

Though it was his favorite movie, David Robison decided not to join his family for the Voyage of the Little Mermaid because it was difficult enough to spend that much time watching an underage, half-naked white girl in the animated feature. But a live performance? No thanks.

This being their first meeting, the Hall of Famer and his successor exchanged pleasantries and didn’t realize that they’d been drifting around the park for hours before arriving at the Teacup rides. They looked at each other and both knew that there was no way they weren’t going to give it a whirl. The two giants compacted themselves into a teacup and as the ride began, their conversation took a more serious turn.

“You know Dwight, before my career began my favorite Bible story was always the Book of Job. I thought the unimaginable suffering he endured as a testament to his faith should be inspirational to us all. But after I retired and looked back on things, I changed my mind. Not about Job-he still inspires me-but it just wasn’t my favorite story anymore. Now my favorite story is the one I identify with most, David and Goliath.”

Howard’s bulky neck tilted with confusion and his brow furrowed as Robinson continued.

“The character of a Christian is tested daily in such a powerful and hedonistic lifestyle as the NBA’s. Money, ego, drugs, alcohol, women….”

Howard cleared his throat, pursed his lips and looked downward in solemn contemplation. The teacups kept right on twirling.

“…and it seems at times in order to appeal or relate to people you need to engage in such activity. Public opinion has equated Christianity with pantywaisted squaredom and there were questions of whether I could lead or secure endorsements because of my faith. But I earned credibility both on and off the court and that influence has been able to do wonderful things for several people. The NBA Cares and Community assist awards may be fodder for cynical columnists, but I’ve seen the lives I and others have touched and thankfully I was blessed with enough money to do so much more. Hopefully God will bless me with a long life so that I can achieve those goals. I see that you take pride in this too and you should be inspired by your wealth, youth and the good that you can do with your life, Dwight.”

This filled the young center with joy. The approval of such a stellar example as Robinson meant everything to him and he hung on his elder’s every word.

“But your career-your lifespan in this game-is so much shorter and you must seize every opportunity. I wanted to be seen as a leader, a positive role model, a great player and a champion. I always knew this was just a game, but I wanted to use my God given ability to its fullest extent and blaze a new trail for men of a higher purpose. To show that you could be an all-time great and a man of God. However, sometimes I feel like I’ve fallen short and in my darker moments I even feel like I failed. Like I should’ve left a bigger mark. I wanted to show just how much a man of God could achieve and it’s an awful feeling to think that I could’ve achieved more. You don’t want to feel that way Dwight.”

Howard frowned not only at the thought of such a feeling, but in compassion for Robinson, whom he felt was being too hard on himself. Surely no one would consider such an accomplished career as a failure. Still, Robinson continued.

“A man, even one such as myself, wants to leave an indelible mark on this sport and that requires defeating other men of similar purpose. Men who will stop at nothing to leave that mark, not even if it means succumbing to their own ego and desires at the cost of others and their own soul. It’s a dangerous path, look at Michael for Christ’s sake. He became his own idol.

But that’s the kicker, the same thing that drove Michael is the same thing that drives the rest of us. Establishing yourself, leaving a mark, fulfilling potential, blah, blah, blah. It all involves one thing, winning. In order to win in this league you have to be truly driven. Single minded, obsessed even. But you can’t let the game, the desire consume you Dwight. That is where we must avoid the sins of pride and false idolatry. But you know what else? No one else is willing to play by those rules. The history books won’t care about your character, only your accomplishments. And let me tell you something, Wilt was right. it’s tough to be David when you’re built like Goliath.”

The teacups began to whirl at an unnatural speed and a cold wind cut across Howard’s face. He struggled with the complexities of such advice and it was tough to concentrate over the children’s cries for help. He became nervous. Robinson, wingspan encompassing the entire cup, remained calm.

“People tell me that I accomplished so much and it’s should be a testament to my faith that I maintained my beliefs while receiving so many accolades. But everything that I’ve achieved is a big fucking joke.”

And with that, a roaring fire was lit behind Mr.Robinson’s pupils. His rippling muscles swelled, his bloodstream visibly rushed and he almost seemed to be growing. Dwight was past nervous. He was getting scared.

“Maybe I should’ve been more aggressive, maybe God would’ve understood. Everything I achieved has been discredited. What am I remembered for? An MVP I apparently didn’t deserve, getting smothered by Olajuwon, emasculated by Rodman and crushed by Shaq. I never received any real recognition until recently and even that was short lived. People don’t even respect my rings! They’re Duncan’s! It’s bullshit!”

Robinson’s voice boomed and now there was no questions about it. He was growing right before Dwight’s eyes. The seams of his shirt popped, the buttons flew, his feet tore through the soft leather and the teacup cracked as it struggled to contain him. Onlookers fled and as Robinson literally grew through the ceiling the cracks revealed a sky filled with ominous black clouds. But the Spurs’ eyes remained fixated on his target who was paralyzed by fear.

“But now people actually have the nerve to compare you to me? I am David Robinson and so I know for damn sure that you’re no David Fucking Robinson! I scored 71 points in a game and won a scoring title! I averaged four and a half blocks with two steals in my third season! I was a threat from inside and out, I beat guards up the floor and jumped over centers!

You want to be me? Ha! Look at you, I was an unquestionable centerpiece of my team, yours won’t even give you the ball no matter how high your FG% is! A body and skills like that, yet you only took 12 shots a game last year?! And that was a career high? Are you fucking kidding me! Your team was the first in NBA history to take more than a third of their shots from three, they don’t respect you, you’re a joke!”

Howard tried to remain strong, but he no longer feared the imposing figure before him as much as it’s words. He was scared they were the truth.

“Do you know how long and how hard I had to fight to get what I’ve got? But the road to a championship has been practically fucking steamrolled and paved for you! There’s no Barkley, no Malone, no Olajuwon, there’s no one! You’re the only center in the league and you still refuse to dominate! Who is in your way? A hobbled K.G.? I’d tear right through that motherfucker! What do have to fear, Shaq?! Not only is he a shell of himself but he’s the antithesis of everything we’ve tried to represent! Humility, hard work, respect, loyalty…yet they fawn at his supposed greatness while he openly mocks us! Are you going to stand for that?! Huh, Superman?!”

Robinson was now more than 400 feet tall and chaos erupted around him. His bellowing could be heard over the emergency sirens for miles. Buildings crumbled around him, the earth shook and a torrential rain drenched Howard as his lip quivered and he began to swallow his tongue.

“You’re no David Robinson! If you were you’d have a post game. You’d make your free throws. You’d seize the leadership role. You’re no David Robinson, because David Fucking Robinson wouldn’t be at Disney World after blowing the NBA Finals, would he?! Would he?!”

Surrounded by flames and deafening screams Howard felt as though his heart could exlode at any moment. His mentor showed no mercy.

“ANSWER ME!!!”

Dumbfounded and petrified, Dwight David Howard did the only thing his body would allow.

He farted.

And then he woke up.

Drenched in sweat and surrounded by a foul stench, Howard leapt out of bed and bolted for the toilet. Alone in his bathroom at 3:15 AM he sat, still unsure of how to balance the principles of his faith with those of his profession. He was pretty sure that Shaq wasn’t the antichrist though.

He was however, certain of three things. He did have too much spiced curry chicken earlier that evening. He needn’t worry about comparisons to David Robinson yet, since he was entering his sixth season and will still be younger than the Admiral was as a rookie.

And he wasn’t going to Disney World tomorrow. He was going to the gym.

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’09-10 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    No.

  • http://slamonline.com 360vue

    meant to say “Howard can quite easily manage 13rpg and 3bpg***”
    … really should proof read my comments

  • tavoris

    360vue…”creation myth”…so you have the ability to think and reason because of……wait for it….chance? Let’s not go there…and let’s-for fun-completely ignore everything else you wrote, since your comments about my post didn’t even relate to what I wrote. If you read this, you’d realize that I agree with you about Howard 100%.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Wilt Chamberlain > Shaq. You don’t even have to try and form a hypothetical comparison 1-on-1, because there are too many factors involved. How is anybody even arguing this?

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    @CB4: I was being sarcastic.

  • tavoris

    Thanks, Russ…wasn’t sure about those ASG’s for Elliott…I remember the Pistons didn’t really want him, but he played well there nonetheless. @ cb…D-Rob never said that…he said-repeatedly-that basketball wasn’t his ONLY passion. Unlike many other players, Robinson had a full life before and after basketball. After college he had to serve in the Navy for 2 years. Of course he wasn’t a immature knucklehead that had nothing else but basketball. The fact that he carried himself with CLASS his whole career seems to make it seem like he wasn’t committed (which was alluded to above by Myles). The fact that he 1)stayed with the Spurs when he coulda got more money elsewhere, 2)mentored Duncan and didn’t get in his way, and most importantly 3)accepted a lesser role on the Spurs to make them a better TEAM all prove his commitment to basketball better than screaming of self-serving ever could.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Kareem > Shaq. I’d like to see Shaq try and stop the sky-hook.
    Shaq’s best post move? The offensive foul.

  • tavoris

    Teddy, Shaq (love him) stopped playing defense 12 seasons ago…

  • Lz – Cphfinest 3

    Seed; As nice as DRob was he was no Shaq, eg. all dominant force on the hardwood. Awesome Myles, just awesome. Howard might be young going into his sixth season, but taken into account that he has had NBA coaches, trainers, staff, and even former superbig Pat Ewing doing everything in their power for that same period to groom Howard’s offensive game, it is just sad that he is such a simple offensive player. Although a beast on D and a physical specimen, his offensive showing against the Lakers just framed that he is NOT top 5 (or probably even 10)in the NBA. With that body and all those shooters around him he should have easily averaged more than 15,4 ppg on less than 50% shooting against Gasol & co. Who just the year before were outmuscled by KG and Perk. Howard will never be more than a bigger, stronger slightly more sophisticated Ben Wallace imo.

  • Hum

    Is Yao Ming next?

  • http://dfkjslf.com Jukai

    cb34: I was going to debate you honestly and fairly, but then you said Shaq would abuse the best offensive center that has ever laced up his shoes, and I realized you’re more gone than the greek guy.
    So, have fun debating with yourself

  • http://dfkjslf.com Jukai

    And stop saying he’d rather play the piano! Stop using one quote to justify your entire flawed argument! Did you ever freaking watch Robinson? Did you watch basketball past 2005? That dude played the game hard, he didn’t lax off, he didn’t stop training, he played hard, and he played to win. Did he like playing the piano more? I don’t know! That doesn’t mean he didn’t put his all into playing the game of basketball and carrying his atrocious team every freaking year!
    Just cut it out, you sound like a broken record.

  • tavoris

    I don’t kno why he’s looked down on for being a well-rounded person…dude put an ENTIRE FREAKING SCHOOL through college…on his dime…quietly.

  • http://slamonline.com 360vue

    tavoris i humbly apologise, i actually mistakenly attributed a comment to you. but my argument still stands for any who would place TD above Dwight, which numerous do.
    Oh and my creation myth reference is regarding the book of Genesis, with its pages frequently referred to by Christians and Judaists as the ‘story of creation’; a book which is riddled with pure delusion. If you acknowledge evolution, which is an empirical fact, and believe God initiated the whole process billions of years ago then thats fine, thats your personal intution and no one can argue otherwise because there isnt anything to say otherwise. Anyway im not on this board to discuss religion so im not going to say anything more but again reiterate my apology for my confusion of poster’s

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    I’m not sure where exactly David Robinson slots into the all-time great centers discussion, but I know he’s in the top 10. And whilst Hakeem ate him alive the same series he won MVP, that didn’t mean he was entirely undeserving of the award. Dude finished in the top three of the MVP voting FIVE separate times during the Jordan/Olajuwon/Shaq era. That’s not too shabby. And he made All-NBA First Team and All Defensive First Team four times each.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    And he was a 74 percent free-throw shooter for his career.

  • tavoris

    Russ, when a center makes the All-NBA first team, isn’t that supposed to mean he was the best player at his position that year? People tend to forget those who haven’t been around for a while. Jordan seems to be the only exception to that rule.

  • ENDS

    Now a little too much cursing for some one who is talking about making a good name/image and being christ-like

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I agree with Tavoris. David Robinson had a much more important impact on the world than most NBA players, particularly a certain bitter and drunken former shooting guard.
    Now, did dude seem too nice at times, yeah, he did. Did he seem like the pressure might have gotten to him on occasion, sure. But the same can be said for players like Lebron and KG and neither of them has accomplished what Robinson accomplished both on and off the court.
    Bottom line is that Myles is exactly right, Dwight Howard should never, EVER be compared to David Robinson strictly based on their skills. It’s just a stupid comparision, like comparing Adam Morrison to Larry Bird.
    And the people who think Shaq would just abuse Wilt Chamberlain…Well, we had this argument on the top 50 of all time list Slam put up a while back.

  • http://www.oprah.com doyouwantmore

    Great article. It’s easy to forget how young Dwight is.

  • http://www.oprah.com doyouwantmore

    Why is swearing blocked out of the comments but not the articles?

  • ENDS

    and that MJ line I was almost shocked to hear it untill DRobb started becoming Godshira, then it hit that it was all a dream.

  • tavoris

    doyouwantmore, because the writers of the articles have journalistic freedoms us mere commenters don’t enjoy.

  • tavoris

    360vue..don’t sweat it…

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS

    @tavoris…..:after your 12:58pm you made it clear that with you i would have to start from zero(unfortunatelly i don’t have that time)….and please follow Allenp’s advice (or just stop being self-contradicting)…..
    @360vue……:you write “and ive seen him for Serbia, he didnt even stand out”. Great and i saw Gasol for China…..some of you are so s….d (count them hursty) that i really think that you are writing those things intentional….at the same time this ain’t a new trend, it is quite usual here, you generally like to make affirmations for players that you don’t even know their existence before i mention them….the leader of course is Jukai whose comments on Belov and Siskauskas were pure entertainment (at least he quickly aknowledged his monumental stu…..y by saying that “sorry, i just found out that Belov was voted greatest player in the history of FIBA over Drazen,Sabonis etc, he must be a good one..!!” ….for those gems he is one of my favorites)
    @Russ…..:greatest teamate David Robinson ever had before Duncan is Žarko Paspalj() hands down. Unfortunatelly for David he had him for just a year. Zarko(current vice-president of the Serbian Olympic Committee and captain of the team that took to the limit U.S. in the 1996 final before Divac was sent out and David Robinson ate alive a young Zeliko Rebraca) answered why he didn’t stay in the NBA many years later by saying: “i was afraid about my health, they were giving us loads of chemicals and nobody was saying a thing”….(S.Elliott barely survived by the way….)

  • http://thatsbecauseheleftyallintherearviewutah fireman10101

    Good spot. A lil off topic but did yall see that the nba is close to a deal wit da old refs. That’s from all the money they robbed the coaches of. It seems like people in the league has lost their freedom of speech huh. Sorry for the off topic comment

  • kay_nock

    K.G.? I’d tear right through that motherfucker! thats gold.. funny stuff…big david robinson fan. If Dwight can only get half of Robo’s post moves his going to dominate.

  • Steve

    Duncan should have been 3rd.

    Centers of the 1990′s
    1. Shaq
    2. Hakeem
    3. Robinson
    4. Ewing
    5. Ostertag (lol)

  • http://www.bebo.com/SupahhHuman B-Moore

    4: Sun Yue
    3: Larry Hughes
    2: Isiah Rider
    1: Steve Kerr
    @ PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS

    I don’t know what you’ve inhaled.. but you should stop it now.. You seem to always be arguing that FIBA players are somehow better than NBA players.. if you would kindly direct your attention to Beijing 2008……..

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Healthy Yao Ming > Dwight Howard.
    Dwight Howard > Pau Gasol
    Hard to gauge where Tim Duncan is though. He’s obviously better than Pau. But Howard is really still young.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    90′s Centers:
    1. Hakeem
    2. Shaq
    3. Robinson
    4. Ewing
    5. Alonzo
    6. Mutumbo
    7. Rik Smits
    8. Arvydas Sabonis (He would probably be higher but we hadn’t seen him in the NBA until years after his prime).
    Am I missing anyone? The top 6 are all hall of fame bound and all candidates for NBA’s Greatest 50.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    There had to have been a center better than Rik Smits who I am leaving off, right?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I like Ewing so much I think I’ll have him ahead of Robinson, personally. So I might switch their order on the list. I know its not a popular thought but that’s just me.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Hakeem the Dream is pretty much the undisputed greatest 90′s center. He gave every single player below him the business, especially Shaq, Robinson, and Ewing. So yes…

  • monkeyball

    Teddy the Bear: How about Brad Daugherty. He had a couple of All-Star seasons in Cleveland. Mark Eaton: greatest (and most one-dimensional) shot-blocker ever. And don’t forget that Robert Parish and Bill Laimbeer played the ends of the careers in the 90′s (and won titles in that decade). Finally, I can’t believe you left out the legendary Jon Koncak.

  • http://dfkjslf.com Jukai

    Spanny: ah, the name spotting, it’s grand to be admired even by kids in Europe.
    I did admit to my mistake with Belov… dude was never allowed to play in the NBA, but from what I understand, he was like the Russian Rick Barry. I just didn’t recognize his name at first. I can’t personally comment on his game or add him to any list I make, but from what I’ve read, every single US dude who played him said the guy just tore it up. So I’ll allow your idolization of him.
    Siskauskas is straight dumb though. Dude’s all hands and feet, he’s more athletic than he is anything else (which you hate) but because he’s pulled a Vince Carter in the last few years (IE chucking it up every chance he gets instead of taking it to the hole, where he’s more valuable) you’ve fallen in love with him. Typical.
    Don’t get me wrong, Siskauskas would be a fringe all-star in America, but only because he’s so damn athletic. Not really for his game smarts.
    I see your really down on Big Sofo after his absolute failure to dominate coming to America. Another lost crush, eh?

  • http://dfkjslf.com Jukai

    1. Wilt Chamberlain
    2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
    3. Bill Russell
    4. Hakeem Olajuon
    5. Shaq
    6. Moses Malone
    7. David Robinson
    8. Bill Walton
    9. Patrick Ewing
    10. Arvydas Sabonis
    11. Willis Reed
    11. Artis Gilmore
    12. Walt Bellamy
    13. Wes Unseld
    14. Nate Thurmond
    15. Dave Cowens
    16. Wes Unseld
    17. Dan Issel
    18. Bob Lanier
    19. Dikembe Mutumbo
    20. Robert ParishMark Eaton/Alanzo Mourning/Rick Smits/Vlade Divac

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Good list, Jukai. I pretty much agree with most of it, but Patrick Ewing had a better career than Bill Walton. Walton had a huge ceiling that he never reached due to injury, and its a shame, but be fair. I know you’re a fan of the guy, but Patrick Ewing averaged 28 and 10 with 4 blocks per game… And had a string of consecutive seasons averaging 20+ ppg and 10+ rpg with 2+ bpg. Walton’s highest ppg total was 18. Again, he would have dominated the league had he not been injured.
    Also, why Arvydas Sabonis ahead of Willis Reed?!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Looking at Moses Malone, one could argue his placement above Shaq… Not that I want to h@te on Shaq or anything like that. Anyone agree?

  • Bathala

    Freakingly good write up man!

    Hopefully the future features will be similar.

    Man o man! D-Rob in the article was right: Dwight needs to step up if he wants to be compared to the all time greats.

  • Mack

    Three things:
    1. This article is incredible

    2. Dwight Howard ought to avergae 25-16 with a few assists, a steal and 4 blocks a night. No excuses. He’s too much to handle for 98% of the league.

    3. Top 4 should be CP3, then Kobe, then Wade, then Bron. Wade is officially better than Kobe, barring an injury. You cannot doubt it or argue against it, it is fact.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    This is the best article in the top 50 so far.

  • Steve

    love it when morons provide an opinion and then declare it to be fact … nice work chief

  • Steve

    Jukai, is that list based on NBA play or all play? If only NBA the Arvydas should be way down and perhaps not on this at all. If all play then you have to wonder whether there were other Euro’s who may have been good enough back in the day but were barred from coming. Just because we didn’t see them doesn’t mean they weren’t there! Also is it based on who would beat who today or is it generationally adjusted? I.e. If adjusted then leaving out Mikan is inexcusable, but if based on them playing at their best today then it is somewhat understandable … but at the same time Mourning and Dikembe would have been too much to handle for guys like Issel and Cowens. Lists across generations are hard, if not impossible to do, so I think you have done a good job. On NBA play alone, assuming NBA best form played today, and only using your 20 I would re-rank as follows:

    1. Wilt Chamberlain
    2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
    3. Bill Russell
    4. Shaq
    5. Dream
    6. Malone
    7. Robinson
    8. Walton
    9. Patrick Ewing
    10. Reed
    11. Thurmond
    11. Gilmore
    12. Bellamy
    13. Unseld
    14. Sabonis
    15. Mutombo
    16. Unseld
    17. Mourning
    18. Cowens
    19. Issel
    20. Divac

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS

    @Teddy………:you write towards Jukai “Also, why Arvydas Sabonis ahead of Willis Reed?! ” ANSWER: cause he is doing the homework i’am giving him….same should do the rest of you(wait till he starts puting Belov in his all time lists…).

  • http://slamonline.com PANAGOPOULOS PIZZA

    @Teddy………: your top 90′s big men list is good if you keep Ewing where he is….he was not nicer than DRob. OTHERWISE: Nice list!!!(extra points for making a 90′s list because you have watched the players and not an all-time based on numbers emphasis unlike many of the kids here with their video game aspirations…..)

  • BIRDMAN JR

    Mack is 100 with his statement. wade is actually on par with kobe if not better. But kobe crazies will tell you otherwise without stating numbers to back up the bs talk. this list is about what an individual does on the court not what his team does. there’s a difference. It is also hilarious hearing those same people bashing shaq and what he did for the lakers. This man was the main reason the lakes won those championship let alone three in a row. These same fans that are infatuated with gasol now will downplay his role with helping kobe win the chip. People also downplay pippen’s huge role with the bulls chips. Your bozo the clown if your think that jordan would have even won two chips let alone six with some other player than pippen. No man has and never will win the chip by his self. Don’t bring up wade because I remember Zo taking over down the strech of gm 6, who ever watched the game know what I’m talking bout.

  • rikson

    Is the greek dude a missionary?! Seems like he is on a holy battle to defend his beloved europe players… I cant hear it anymore – and I am from europe!

  • rikson

    I absolutely love wades game, dont get me wrong. But down the stretch in clutch situations a good and consistent J is still the best weapon. And kobe has the best shooting touch in the league right now – thats why I put him first on the list!

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS

    @Steve…..:you write “On NBA play alone” and you have Sabonis over Mourning,Divac,Unseld etc..?? Sabonis shouldn’t even be top-50 all-time for NBA play. The guy arrived at the league barely able to walk and he used to move like Ewing between 88-89(that is AFTER he had the first torn achiles. Before this he was one of the freakiest freaks of nature you’ve ever seen).

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