Friday, October 21st, 2011 at 12:31 pm  |  226 responses

Top 50: Chris Paul, no. 8

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Quinn Peterson / @QwinFNP

It’s amazing, though understandable, how much Americans get caught up in this binary opposition line of thinking. Someone, something must always be better or be the best. There has to be.

More often than not, however, things are just not that simple. Such is the case when it comes to the “best point guard in the League.” But it’s pretty damn tantalizing, to be honest, to compare them all, especially Chris Paul and Deron Williams, and SLAMonline’s Doobie Okon did so eloquently.

Now, my selection is Chris Paul. But having had this argument with countless different cats for the past four or five years, I realize that trying to convince others of the same may simply be a waste of time.

What I can definitively state is that he’s one of the best in the business, no doubt, and will likely go down as one of the best in history.

What makes this debate so difficult is that it’s not quantitative. Stats are only half the story, if that. The rest is a combination of leadership, decision-making and other immeasurable intangibles. Some pundits recognize this. Others don’t.

And while his numbers are stellar, it’s in those auxiliary departments that Chris Paul really stands out.

About a year ago, Kenny Smith gave some great insight about how to determine the Association’s top floor general. Just who that person is, in many ways, is determined by variables of circumstance and surrounding. Depending on what one may be looking for—a scorer, passer, sidekick, etc.—their PG of choice might differ.

On Paul, he said this: “If I want to attract free agents, a guy who [makes guys say], ‘I wanna play with this point guard,’ because even though he’s the best player on the team, he can get us going…that’s Chris Paul.

Chris Paul can be your number one guy, even at the point guard position, without taking 30 shots. He can do it in 15 shots, get you 15 assists, get you 5 steals, and get you wins in the column, have you 4-0 when you should be 1-4.”

All this being said, last season was a crucial one in the Chris Paul saga. Coming off of an injury-laden ‘09-10 campaign, followed by a rumor-riddled summer, in some ways, it was a make or break year for CP.

DWill went hard the previous season, averaging 18 per (and stepping it up to 24.3 in the Playoffs), while Paul missed 47 games and his Hornets struggled to 37 wins.

And just as quickly as CP darts by bigs when he comes off the ballscreen, many seemed equally as anxious to write him off—as if he wasn’t just the first player to lead the League in assists and steals in consecutive seasons; as if he hadn’t averaged 22.8 and 21.1 in the two years prior.

There was speculation (which he fueled, in part, to be sure) of him trying to get out of NO and get to NY. But instead of complaining about his situation via the media, threatening to hold-out or taking some other kind of extreme action, he bossed up, put his team first, came out the gate winning 11-12 games and played 80 games. While his points per game dropped to 15.9, his effectiveness was as potent as ever.

Paul, considered by many to be the League’s fiercest competitor, was on a mission and his game reflected it. CP3 wasn’t dead! Much to the contrary, in fact, and actions speak louder than words.

To those who know, though, he never died in the first place. Ask most any player in the League—namely the heavies, LeBron, Kobe, etc.—and I’m sure they’d list Chris Paul as the One they’d most love to play with.

As he showed in the ’10-11 postseason, very few—if any—players (let alone PGs) can dominate a game the way he can, not by brute or force, but using only 12-15 shots, strategically controlling tempo, picking his spots and consistently putting teammates in positions to succeed (and overachieve). Such is how he managed to help the seventh-seeded Hornets steal two wins from the second-seeded Lakers (without David West!).

While some have been blessed with one, two, or even three premier scoring options other than themselves, CP hasn’t been so fortunate. Making the most of his situation, however, he’s willed his teams to victories, and made himself, perhaps, the most valuable player to his team in the League (save maybe, Derrick Rose). Who else do you know that can scrap together 46 wins in the Western Conference and avoid getting swept with West (who tore his ACL), Aaron Gray, Emeka Okafor and Carl Landry as the bigs, and no other perimeter who can create a shot for themselves?

In this rapidly evolving game (and position), Paul is a throwback. Small but savage, he’s concerned first and foremost with making others better and keeping people happy, but still possesses the individual strength to shoulder the load himself if need be.

Does that make him the best PG in the League? If you’re asking me, I’m answering with emphatic yes. But it depends on what you’re looking for, I guess. All we know for sure is that he’s a heck of a player. Maybe that’s enough.

SLAMonline Top 50 Players 2011
Rank Player Team Position Pos. Rank
50 Luol Deng Bulls SF 8
49 Andrew Bogut Bucks C 7
48 Ray Allen Celtics SG 9
47 Marc Gasol Grizzlies C 6
46 David West Hornets PF 15
45 Kevin Martin Rockets SG 8
44 Andrew Bynum Lakers C 5
43 Brandon Jennings Bucks PG 11
42 Lamar Odom Lakers PF 14
41 Gerald Wallace Blazers SF 7
40 Brook Lopez Nets C 4
39 Joakim Noah Bulls C 3
38 Carlos Boozer Bulls PF 13
37 Kevin Garnett Celtics PF 12
36 Eric Gordon Clippers SG 7
35 Tony Parker Spurs PG 10
34 Andre Iguodala 76ers SG 6
33 Al Jefferson Jazz PF 11
32 Al Horford Hawks C 2
31 Stephen Curry Warriors PG 9
30 Tim Duncan Spurs PF 10
29 Josh Smith Hawks PF 9
28 Manu Ginobili Spurs SG 5
27 Tyreke Evans Kings PG 8
26 Rudy Gay Grizzlies SF 6
25 John Wall Wizards PG 7
24 Danny Granger Pacers SF 5
23 Monta Ellis Warriors SG 4
22 Joe Johnson Hawks SG 3
21 Paul Pierce Celtics SF 4
20 Steve Nash Suns PG 6
19 Zach Randolph Grizzlies PF 8
18 LaMarcus Aldridge Blazers PF 7
17 Chris Bosh Heat PF 6
16 Kevin Love TWolves PF 5
15 Rajon Rondo Celtics PG 5
14 Blake Griffin Clippers PF 4
13 Pau Gasol Lakers PF 3
12 Russell Westbrook Thunder PG 4
11 Amar’e Stoudemire Knicks PF 2
10 Deron Williams Nets PG 3
9 Carmelo Anthony Knicks SF 3
8 Chris Paul Hornets PG 2

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’11-12 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Maurice Bobb, Shannon Booher, David Cassilo, Bryan Crawford, Sandy Dover, Adam Figman, Jon Jaques, Eldon Khorshidi, Ryne Nelson, Doobie Okon, Ben Osborne, Quinn Peterson, Dave Schnur, Abe Schwadron, Dan Shapiro, Irv Soonachan, Todd Spehr, Tzvi Twersky, Yaron Weitzman, DeMarco Williams and Ben York.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • KJackson

    This isnt a best pure point guard rankings!! this is the top 50 overall player rankings. Rose is my guy. Chris Paul is not a better overall player than Derrick Rose. Its as simple as that. does Chris paul set up his teammates better? yes. But dont act like Rose doesnt set up his teammates at all. Give me a break. Chris Paul absolutely can do what Drose does scoring-wise. Its not even close. Hornets and Bulls are basically the same team. Boozer= D.West, L.Deng= Ariza, Noah= Okafor, Bellinelli= bogans/Korver. But Rose led his team to 62 wins. Im Just saying. And Bulls beat the elite teams in the west at least once. Thunder, Lakers, Spurs, Grizzles, Mavs, Etc.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Tom: Why do you have Dirk higher than Wade, Kobe, and Dwight?

  • KJackson

    **Can Not Do what Drose does scoring wise**

  • KJackson

    * Absolutely can NOT do what DROse does scoring-wise

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    KJackson: Rose is a better shooter, finisher, and more athletic. Paul is a better ball handler, passer, rebounder, defender, creator, and facilitator. Rose (debatably) may impact a game more, but don’t pretend he’s a better player. And Boozer is better than West, Deng is much better than Ariza, Noah is much much better than Okafor and Bogans is equal to Marco.

  • Tom

    @Caboose I just generally think that Slam will rank Dirk higher because of all the heroics from the playoffs :/

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Hornets and Bulls are not basically the same team. That is so absurd.

  • BAWSE

    I love CP3 and agree with all arguments for him BUT i like this position! Rose overall is More forecful of a PLAYER. This isnt who is the best PURE PG but top 50 PLAYERS like @KJackson points out. I agree with this. We cant always debate things. @GP23 you are crazy. Steve Nash isnt behind them. Dwill and Rondo are better RIGHT NOW. Steve Nash cant keep up with them on his best nights now. Just the truth.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    CP3 is the best PURE pg in the league. i can’t argue with the ranking though; It isn’t like DRose isn’t coming off of an MVP season, and he hasn’t hit his ceiling yet.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Paul is also a much better shooter Caboose. Spaces the floor much better. He also controls the pace better. — Rose is more aggressive, and for a longer period as well, which is the only reason I can understand putting Rose above Paul. Because he is going 100% at your throat for the whole game. But skill wise, he isn’t better then Paul at anything.

  • KJackson

    1. Dwyane Wade
    2. Kobe Bryant
    3. Lebron James
    4. Dwight Howard
    5. Dirk Nowitzki
    6. Kevin Durant
    7. Derrick Rose

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    You do know that CP avg. 23ppg on 16 shots not too long ago compared to DRose’s career high of 25ppg on 20 shots. Now, I’m not saying that CP is DRose’s equal when it comes to scoring but the guy has shown the ability to be a 22ppg scorer. He’s a better shooter from 3, mid-range, FT and has one of the best floaters in the L.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    I think nay-sayers of Paul probably haven’t seriously watched him play, or have never really played basketball. I think he’ll get alot more exposure when he comes to NY.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Angel of Stern

    oh hell no slam… cp3 is the best point guard in the league.. this is insane… and Kjackson, your either stupid or a hater. If your were neither there would be no reason for you to have lebron 3rd in your rankings.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Angel of Stern

    kobe will be 5th i think

  • http://nba.com GP23

    So because Nash is 36-ish (will have to check that)… that doesn’t mean he can’t keep up with the rest. Rondo can’t shoot to save his life, and he is lucky he has 3 HOFers around him. Steve Nash took the Suns far into the playoffs when Amare was injured. D-Will and Nash? hmmm its a tough one, they both have their own qualities, Nash cant play D to save his life, but amazing on offense. Deron has a good balance of O and D. I would still have Nash, but it is debatable.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Angel of Stern

    maybe 6th

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    DWill and Nash is not a tough one. At All.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    I would have Kobe 2nd… but I doubt he will be ranked there.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    If Slam puts Kevin Durant over Kobe Bryant that will be the biggest fail of this list.

  • Joblo

    Am I the only one who saw d rose destroy every pg in the league last year? No other pg in the league could have carried the bulls the way he did last year, period

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    Yep, he carried Deng, Noah, Boozer, Korver, Gibson etc.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I watched when Rose came to New Orleans. He did not “destroy” Chris Paul.
    In the first half, Paul clearly outplayed him. But, in the second half, the Bulls switched up their defense, and gave better help on Paul, and Rose found his scoring groove after his teammates hit some shots.
    Anyway, if people believe Rose is better than Paul, that’s on them. Assuming that other people who do not share this delusion are somehow crazy is going too far though.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    @nbk, would it? I mean, KD technically DID go farther in the playoffs than Kobe. (I’m just playing with you by the way. Don’t take it too seriously)

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Noah, Deng, Gibson, Brewer, Asik, Thomas are all ELITE defenders. New Orleans has (1) “elite” defender, and it’s Emeka Okafor, who would be the 2nd or 3rd best defensive Big on the Bulls. — Add that with the fact that Chicago also has Luol Deng who (despite Slam’s rankings) is the 2nd best player and would be on either team, Chicago also has the better PF, Boozer, who is better then David West, and as I already pointed out, the better Center in Joakim Noah. — Chicago also has better shooters.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Rose did not carry his team last year.
    This wasn’t like AI carrying a team full of scrubs deep into the postseason in his MVP year.
    It was a combination of Rose, a SOLID supporting cast, depth, excellent defense and Thibs.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    ^^Just like SP Jay sarcastically stated @ 3:49pm.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Kobe is still the better defender. He’s clearly the better playmaker. And he’s smarter. The gap isn’t huge between him and Durant, but it’s premature to say Durant is better then Bryant just because of some playoff success. Also, every player in the league says Bryant is the second best or even best player in the league right now. So they can’t be that far off – (and I’m not talking about like 1 or 2 guys, a lot of them have weighed in that Bryant not being in ESPN’s top 5 is absolutely ridiculous, yada yada)

  • brad

    caboose you sir are a cp3 D*ck rider, lol meant to be played why cuz he gets alot of assists, westbrook is clearly not as good as paul, let me ask you something caboose? did your mom have ne kids that lived besides you? cp3 is not better than d williams or d rose in any situation ever, I kno you think you kno a lot about basketball because his stats look soo damn good but all you have to do is look in the W-L to see that Chris Paul is mostly about the numbers, ya hes a great passer and offensive player but to say he could ever lead a team to a championship like a drose, magic johnson or isiah thomas, NO WAY you sir need to learn something baout baseketball I think it is fair to assume that you didnt get off the bench of your hs team

  • Bruno

    tell ‘em nbk …

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    brad “you sir” are ignorant, and it’s safe to assume your just typed with your *sshole

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    My top 10

    1. LbJ
    2. KB
    3. D-Wade
    4. Howard
    5. Durant
    6. Rose
    7. Dirddk
    8. Cp3
    9. D-Will
    10. Melo

    Cp3 is a better PG. The best PG actually. Cp3 can get any team into the right play quickly and run a team perfectly. Rose however will drag your team to a win rather than put everyone in the right place to win. Matters of preference and team personnel. I can’t in good conscience choose one over the other without first knowing what team I have.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Did I miss something?
    When did Rose lead a team to a championship?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    you* — sorry, don’t want to cause a wedgie

  • stayweird38

    Personally I’d put Melo before Chris Paul.. but yeah Chris is good but come on look what drose did last year by himself… pretty much Boozer blows Deng and Noah helped but yeah isn’t Chris Paul in the same situation like isn’t his team like the Bulls 1 All Star and a bunch of role players….. if chris was as good as drose he would of gone to the west finals or would of won something by now he’s been in the league what ? 3 or 2 more years than derrick rose?? This is Drose 2nd year fools!!! And he’s only getting better! Suck it haters it is what it is… go coach Tibbs!!! And the Bulls!

  • Ivo.L

    this is hard Rose or CP3… well let’s see Paul is a pure point guard, better all around player than Rose he can steal defend and shoots better too… but Rose is a Scoring PG, played pretty well in the playoffs, is a better finisher and a clutch performer… Steve Nash in my opinion is the best PG shooting and passing no defense, but in my opinion i prefer Nash… well for me the best defensive PG in the league is Rondo and my man J-Kidd

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    nbk, you do know that “every player” in the L doesn’t have the time to watch every game, right? I’m not saying that KD’s better than Kobe but those guys on ESPN at least had the right idea placing Kobe 7th based on his age and recent playoff performance. This is not some kind of lifetime achievement award, it’s about who are the best players at this very moment.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    smh

  • https://twitter.com/#!/KDTrey5 nbk

    Well did I say I think Kobe is the best or 2nd best player in the League? I was just pointing out what the whole league thinks, Kevin Durant himself does’t think he’s top 5, infact he spent all of 2 days ago arguing with some dude about how Kobe is underrated on ESPN. you can click my name and look at his twitter

  • https://twitter.com/#!/KDTrey5 nbk

    Kevin Durant doesn’t think he, himself is top 5. He thinks Kobe is top 3 I believe is what he said.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    That’s it. That’s your reply; smh. Good, just remind me the next time we are having an argument to respond with a simple WTF!

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Thanks for the support nbk. Brad is just funny. Cause he thinks that I prefer Paul because his “stats are pretty” when Paul’s stats are actually less than Rose and DWill. Dare I even argue with someone who probably struggles to keep his internal organs functioning?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    WTF!

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    As a Bulls fan, I take offense to these Rose fans saying Rose did this and did that all by himself, and then turn around and call themselves Bulls fans.
    Y’all obviously don’t know sh*t about the Bulls so please just say you’re a Rose fan and stop calling yourself a Bulls fan.
    I love Rose, but no f*cking way he willed them to 62 wins last year all by his lonesome.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Taylor, I know i’m a slurper and a stan and should just shut up and die and all that good stuff, but i’m curious, if Kobe scored 25+ put up 5 and 5 again, and hit a few game winners and the Lakers are rolling next season then how high would Kobe be on your top players list? Would he still be on the outside of the top 8 for you?

  • https://twitter.com/#!/KDTrey5 nbk

    @JaredDudley619: I’m surprised that most of you think Kobe’s ranking is fair!!! Kobe 100% is a top 3 NBA player. Yes he’s getting older but also wiser.
    Wed Oct 19 04:58:49 via Echofon
    __________________________________________________________________

    @waldorfsfinest: U feel like u top5 tho right? Jus checkin.

    @KDTrey5: nah

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    SMFH!!

  • https://twitter.com/#!/KDTrey5 nbk

    JTaylor the smh comment was not directed at you, Slam, as you should know, does not do a very good job of getting comments up right away, I was replying to StayWeird, but anyway, we were having an argument? What side were we each on, and what was the conflict over?

  • MLK4Life

    Great article on CP3. We don’t need to compare. It’s really useless to have these discussions because they’re all based on taste and opinion. Being a NC native, I’ve been watching Chris since his senior year in HS. I’d take him before any other PG in the league. If he ends up in New York and Chauncey leaves, he will get that team to play defense. Amare and Melo are great players, but Chris is a different beast. Whether D’Antoni is still coaching or not, Chris will get that team to where they need to be. At that point, we will get to see he and Derrick go head to head more than once or twice a year, hopefully see them in a playoff series. For my money, I’d take Chris before any other player in the league period because of his skills and his competitiveness. My top ten is this:
    1. Wade (Great on both sides of the ball, plays all out for the duration of his time on the floor, never backs down from the moment, finishes games)
    2. Kobe (Still the most skilled offensive player in the game, above average defender, competitiveness is second to none, also never backs down when his team needs him the most)
    3. Durant (Great offensive player, second behind Kobe in that regard, needs to become a better defender/rebounder, great leader)
    4. LeBron (Most talented all around player, still relies on athleticism more than anything else, notoriously shrank when his team needed him in the Finals especially in the fourth quarter)
    5. Chris (In my opinion best PG, best leader of a team, does everything you need him to do to win regardless of who’s on the floor with him, will be better than Isiah Thomas when he’s done with his career whether he has rings or not)
    6. Dwight (Best defender in the league, improving as an offensive player, can’t shoot free throws, whines about fouls too much)
    7. Dirk (Defeated Kobe, Durant and the Big 3 on his way to a Championship, most unique superstar in the league, doesn’t play defense but doesn’t really need to with Tyson Chandler behind him)
    8. Melo (Diverse scorer, not really a leader, doesn’t play defense)
    9. Deron (Second best PG in the league, great leader much in the same mold as Chris, strong, powerful, quicker than most people give him credit for)
    10. Amar’e (Good offensive player, second most athletic big in the league, not a great defender, needs to rebound more)
    Peace Brothers. Let this be a positive debate. This is just a game. These guys are just basketball players. Nothing is set in concrete, all based on how you feel.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Oooooooooooops, my fault nbk. I was just pointing out that it’s hard to take what NBA players are saying over Kobe’s ranking seriously because I doubt those guys had the time to watch every Laker, Heat, OKC, Dal, NO and ORL game to truly judge who the best players really are. Where do you have Kobe on your list?
    Lakeshow, it all depends on well the Lakers perform in the postseason compared to the Mavs, Thunder, Magic, and Heat because I have the best players on this teams above Kobe. Oh, and CP also.

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