Friday, October 21st, 2011 at 12:31 pm  |  226 responses

Top 50: Chris Paul, no. 8

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Quinn Peterson / @QwinFNP

It’s amazing, though understandable, how much Americans get caught up in this binary opposition line of thinking. Someone, something must always be better or be the best. There has to be.

More often than not, however, things are just not that simple. Such is the case when it comes to the “best point guard in the League.” But it’s pretty damn tantalizing, to be honest, to compare them all, especially Chris Paul and Deron Williams, and SLAMonline’s Doobie Okon did so eloquently.

Now, my selection is Chris Paul. But having had this argument with countless different cats for the past four or five years, I realize that trying to convince others of the same may simply be a waste of time.

What I can definitively state is that he’s one of the best in the business, no doubt, and will likely go down as one of the best in history.

What makes this debate so difficult is that it’s not quantitative. Stats are only half the story, if that. The rest is a combination of leadership, decision-making and other immeasurable intangibles. Some pundits recognize this. Others don’t.

And while his numbers are stellar, it’s in those auxiliary departments that Chris Paul really stands out.

About a year ago, Kenny Smith gave some great insight about how to determine the Association’s top floor general. Just who that person is, in many ways, is determined by variables of circumstance and surrounding. Depending on what one may be looking for—a scorer, passer, sidekick, etc.—their PG of choice might differ.

On Paul, he said this: “If I want to attract free agents, a guy who [makes guys say], ‘I wanna play with this point guard,’ because even though he’s the best player on the team, he can get us going…that’s Chris Paul.

Chris Paul can be your number one guy, even at the point guard position, without taking 30 shots. He can do it in 15 shots, get you 15 assists, get you 5 steals, and get you wins in the column, have you 4-0 when you should be 1-4.”

All this being said, last season was a crucial one in the Chris Paul saga. Coming off of an injury-laden ‘09-10 campaign, followed by a rumor-riddled summer, in some ways, it was a make or break year for CP.

DWill went hard the previous season, averaging 18 per (and stepping it up to 24.3 in the Playoffs), while Paul missed 47 games and his Hornets struggled to 37 wins.

And just as quickly as CP darts by bigs when he comes off the ballscreen, many seemed equally as anxious to write him off—as if he wasn’t just the first player to lead the League in assists and steals in consecutive seasons; as if he hadn’t averaged 22.8 and 21.1 in the two years prior.

There was speculation (which he fueled, in part, to be sure) of him trying to get out of NO and get to NY. But instead of complaining about his situation via the media, threatening to hold-out or taking some other kind of extreme action, he bossed up, put his team first, came out the gate winning 11-12 games and played 80 games. While his points per game dropped to 15.9, his effectiveness was as potent as ever.

Paul, considered by many to be the League’s fiercest competitor, was on a mission and his game reflected it. CP3 wasn’t dead! Much to the contrary, in fact, and actions speak louder than words.

To those who know, though, he never died in the first place. Ask most any player in the League—namely the heavies, LeBron, Kobe, etc.—and I’m sure they’d list Chris Paul as the One they’d most love to play with.

As he showed in the ’10-11 postseason, very few—if any—players (let alone PGs) can dominate a game the way he can, not by brute or force, but using only 12-15 shots, strategically controlling tempo, picking his spots and consistently putting teammates in positions to succeed (and overachieve). Such is how he managed to help the seventh-seeded Hornets steal two wins from the second-seeded Lakers (without David West!).

While some have been blessed with one, two, or even three premier scoring options other than themselves, CP hasn’t been so fortunate. Making the most of his situation, however, he’s willed his teams to victories, and made himself, perhaps, the most valuable player to his team in the League (save maybe, Derrick Rose). Who else do you know that can scrap together 46 wins in the Western Conference and avoid getting swept with West (who tore his ACL), Aaron Gray, Emeka Okafor and Carl Landry as the bigs, and no other perimeter who can create a shot for themselves?

In this rapidly evolving game (and position), Paul is a throwback. Small but savage, he’s concerned first and foremost with making others better and keeping people happy, but still possesses the individual strength to shoulder the load himself if need be.

Does that make him the best PG in the League? If you’re asking me, I’m answering with emphatic yes. But it depends on what you’re looking for, I guess. All we know for sure is that he’s a heck of a player. Maybe that’s enough.

SLAMonline Top 50 Players 2011
Rank Player Team Position Pos. Rank
50 Luol Deng Bulls SF 8
49 Andrew Bogut Bucks C 7
48 Ray Allen Celtics SG 9
47 Marc Gasol Grizzlies C 6
46 David West Hornets PF 15
45 Kevin Martin Rockets SG 8
44 Andrew Bynum Lakers C 5
43 Brandon Jennings Bucks PG 11
42 Lamar Odom Lakers PF 14
41 Gerald Wallace Blazers SF 7
40 Brook Lopez Nets C 4
39 Joakim Noah Bulls C 3
38 Carlos Boozer Bulls PF 13
37 Kevin Garnett Celtics PF 12
36 Eric Gordon Clippers SG 7
35 Tony Parker Spurs PG 10
34 Andre Iguodala 76ers SG 6
33 Al Jefferson Jazz PF 11
32 Al Horford Hawks C 2
31 Stephen Curry Warriors PG 9
30 Tim Duncan Spurs PF 10
29 Josh Smith Hawks PF 9
28 Manu Ginobili Spurs SG 5
27 Tyreke Evans Kings PG 8
26 Rudy Gay Grizzlies SF 6
25 John Wall Wizards PG 7
24 Danny Granger Pacers SF 5
23 Monta Ellis Warriors SG 4
22 Joe Johnson Hawks SG 3
21 Paul Pierce Celtics SF 4
20 Steve Nash Suns PG 6
19 Zach Randolph Grizzlies PF 8
18 LaMarcus Aldridge Blazers PF 7
17 Chris Bosh Heat PF 6
16 Kevin Love TWolves PF 5
15 Rajon Rondo Celtics PG 5
14 Blake Griffin Clippers PF 4
13 Pau Gasol Lakers PF 3
12 Russell Westbrook Thunder PG 4
11 Amar’e Stoudemire Knicks PF 2
10 Deron Williams Nets PG 3
9 Carmelo Anthony Knicks SF 3
8 Chris Paul Hornets PG 2

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’11-12 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Maurice Bobb, Shannon Booher, David Cassilo, Bryan Crawford, Sandy Dover, Adam Figman, Jon Jaques, Eldon Khorshidi, Ryne Nelson, Doobie Okon, Ben Osborne, Quinn Peterson, Dave Schnur, Abe Schwadron, Dan Shapiro, Irv Soonachan, Todd Spehr, Tzvi Twersky, Yaron Weitzman, DeMarco Williams and Ben York.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com airs

    Why so much Rose hate?? Rose is a beast!!

  • MUBWAR

    nbk = no basketball knowledge

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    If I dont watch it, you dont understand it, what is the purpose of watching something if you dont comprehend it? Rose had a better season than cp3 last season and will do so again. Rose outplayed cp3 all last season, but cp3 had a overrated performance against a team that got demolished in the second round because they didnt play with any heart or defense through the playoffs but I dont watch basketball, gtfoh.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    MUBWAR’s a trip, though.
    Dude LOVES to rip on Rose but has never really explained why, and he loves trying to clown Bulls fans but uhh…dude said himself he was a “lifelong Raptors fan” who jumped ship when Bosh did and is now a “diehard Heatles fan”.
    Nice.
    But I don’t go in too hard on dude cause I’m sure he’s a youngin’ who only started watching NBA in 2003.
    It’s all good, you go head and do you little homie.
    airs, whattup yo?!

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Damn, Soop!
    He got you there!
    Kid’s only like the 38th commenter to call you that. lol

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Exhibit A: “he played next to a 2-guard in bogans who was essentially a liability on offense that no team respected, so they rarely guarded him basically leaving two men on Rose most of the time” – Bogans may not be an individual threat, but he hit a 3 a game at 38% shooting from deep. Which is way to good of a % for teams to leave him “unguarded” which you would know, actually you wouldn’t have said most of that comment if you actually knew what you were talking about. This all without sayin, you have to be completely ignorant to even assume an NBA team would double team a PG on the perimeter, any PG. Which you are

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Haha I’m cryin matic, so distraught I’m gonna have to “leave him alone” lol

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Teams trapped Rose a lot, but he didn’t get double-teamed

  • BigMvp

    If SLAM doesnt have dwight 2nd on this list something is seriously wrong

  • MUBWAR

    1st im 24(is it still considered a youngin?) still a die hard raptors fan. started watching ball in ’98 not 2003. Support the heat cause I love dynasties, my fav being the showtime Lakers. and finally, im not a rose hater, just don’t understand all the hype around. A great player but not a top 8 players in my book. Anything else Alaska boy?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Trapping is wholly different, the whole team is rotating, and the object is to make someone else make a play off the dribble. Not to leave 1 player open to focus on someone more dangerous. It’s not like Rose was being trapped at the top of the key, just in corners/sidelines and off of picks – plus with Korver and Deng Rose got to play 1 on 1 with no help (other then at the rim) a lot.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    So im ignorant for saying teams deliberately left bogans open despite the fact he shot 38% from 3. now I know YOU dont watch games because any bulls fan can attest to this. Most teams left that guy wide open for him to shoot the ball because they were more concerned with limiting Roses penetration to the basket.bogans does not have a reputation as a knock down shooter so no team fear letting bogans get as many shots as he wanted, even if he did shoot 38%. yeah, that sounds very ignorant.It is not a double team team, more like a soft double, the guy usaully didnt commit all the way but he was in rose area leaving bogans with enough time to jack up as many shots as he wanted.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Dynasties?
    They gotta win a few chips to be a dynasty, son!
    You started watching in ’98?
    No wonder you think LeBron is so amazing, you completely missed the Jordan era.
    And you burned me with “Alaska boy”.
    Damn.
    How am I gonna recover from that one?
    Yo, I’ve lived in Mexico, Illinois, Cali, North Calorina, Virginia, Japan AND Alaska so you can go ahead and call me “Worldwide boy”, thank you very much.
    Thinking bout checking out Arizona next…NAHHHHH

  • brock

    @nbk bogans was left open quite often and that hole has to be addressed before the bulls can even think of winning a chip. 38% is a mediocre percentage for someone that gets the looks and limited touches that bogans has.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    You’re both right, in a way.
    Bogans does have a reputation as an outside shooter, actually, but Rose’s penetration often left Bogans wide open to shoot the 3.
    Teams absolutley respected Bogan’s shot, but a Rose layup/dunk is a much higher percentage shot than a Bogans 3.

  • MUBWAR

    i didn’t miss the jordan era, i got them all on tape thanks to my pops.

  • MUBWAR

    now can we stop this foolish back and forth, YOU’RE KILLING MY BUZZ

  • brad

    ya caboose im really having a hard time, tell me why is chris paul the best because he hangs out with lebron and carmelo in the summers, because he plays on a bad team (whos afraid of NO really? what has he ever won, ever? one first round series?? please tell me, a f**kin skills challenge?, What happend with chris paul’s mystery injury when they played the bulls the march? also who won both those games and who had a better games? give me a valid argument other than pure pg and he can dish the rock. U can say d-will got booz n them to play better in Utah, but this is Rose’s first year with those guys and they went to the Eastern Finals. Btw what do you do for a job caboose?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Bogans was open once rose got in the paint. R
    That has absolutely nothing to do with being double teamed. Rose is better then every player in the league at getting in the key, and he is pretty good at finding the open man, but he was not being double teamed, he’s a PG who shoots under 45%, he’s not f*ckin Shaq

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    No problem, Mubby.
    Props to your pops for passing knowledge, BTW.
    Soop – yeah, that’s the part I left out, that it had nothing to do with being double-teamed.
    Holy sh*t, basketball has a lot of words that could be miscontrused as innuendo.
    Balls, penetration, double-teamed….

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Every wing in the league who plays next to a PG that gets in te paint a lot, is left open a lot. The whole concept of drive & kick (the offense Rose played in in college) is for that too happen.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Enig, seriously when i’m playing 2k it is like i’m listening to the commentors do a play by play of a snuff film.

  • Feez22

    I guess I need to put my 2 cents in. Chris Paul in my opinion is the better basketball player than rose. Not only the better PG but the better Player offensively and defensively. HOWEVER this is ranked off of last year. Now many of you guys including enigmatic know my preference of Paul over rose. But let’s be real. Paul was spotty last season. ESPECIALLY IN THE SECOND HALF OF GAMES. His efficiency was on point but I must have counted 10-12 games where Chris just disappeared in the second half. Amazingly they won 46 games because I watched maybe 65-70 of em (online and on tv) and literally In the middle of the season you could see Paul losing steam. You guys can go back and look at the box scores but from what I saw Paul just ran out of gas In the second half of Many games. If Paul were 100% this hornet team would have easily won 50-52 games but Pauls efficiency just led em to 46. The difference between Paul and other guys is that when Paul struggles he can mask it with his fundamentals. He has the versatilty to be the primary scorer or primary facilitator while being a playmaker defensively. He did just enough with west to win 46. If Paul can get that meniscus back via experimental surgery Europe style I think he can go bonkers like 08 but y’all have to admit… Last season was not upto his standards. Now his playoff run was amazing but game 6 was not an anomaly. That happened a number of times in season which is why Chris is only #8 here. If we were talking about all around skill I dont know of a player in basketball today including lebron James with more of it. Chris is an above avg shooter from all ranges, above avg passer, above average courtvision, above average defensive playmaking ability, can rebound good for his size and can score with the best of PG’S when healthy not to mention his clutch factor.His performance last yr was just lacking. I have lacked objectivity on these posts but I have to keep it real here. Chris would tell you his season especially the middle portion was lacking. Kinda scary since his efficiency was as high as ever but #8 to me is fair and understandable from last years perspective.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    LOL @ LakeShow.
    Feez22 makes a lot of sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/#!/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    My Top 10
    10)Carmelo Anthony
    9)Deron Williams
    8)Chris Paul
    7)Derrick Rose
    6)Kevin Durant
    5)Kobe Bryant
    4)Dirk Nowitzki
    3)Dwayne Wade
    2)Dwight Howard
    1)LeBron James

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Nice list, BlackPhantom.
    My top ten:

    1. Dylan
    2. Dylan
    3. Dylan
    4. Dylan
    5. Dylan
    6. Dylan
    7. Dylan
    8. Dylan
    9. Dylan
    10.Dylan

    Cause he spit hot fiyah!

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Matic must be bored.

  • MUBWAR

    loooool best season of that diddy show. ahhh the memories.

  • http://www.facebook.com/#!/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    LMAO! Dylan is the realest

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    F*ck David Stern and the Owners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    yeah whatever NBK, now you just talking bs, D.rose never really had to drive and kick to bogans, because in lament terms: HE WAS WIDE OPEN MOST OF THE TIME DUDE, SO HE DIDNT HAVE TO DRAW A DEFENDER FROM BOGANS.

  • robb

    “Rose is a better basketball player than Chris Paul”.- Kadavour . hahahahahahahahaha. Wrong.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Regardless you ignorant fool, Bogans played 17.8 minutes per game, Was 54th in 3pt % and in no way held Rose back. We all realize the team has a hole at the 2 spot, we all know the team probably won’t win until they fill it, but we also know that it is NOT because Keith Bogans is so terrible that he is left alone on offense. The problem is that the bulls don’t have a guy who can give Rose a rest while he is still on the court, by creating off of te dribble or setting up an offense. If that was your complaint about Bogans then that would have made sense. You could complain about the 22 minutes a game that Brewer plays without having a legitimate jumper, but I’d just point out he only plays 22 minutes and moves very well without the ball, great for a guy off the bench, but for the most part the Bulls have 2 decent to good shooters plain with Rose, Luol Deng, Kyle Korver, and Keith “whether you like it or not” Bogans, who spaced the court well enough last season for Derrick Rose to become the youngest MVP in league history. Your argument doesn’t have a point, you have said things that are blatantly not true, and you just plainly don’t really know what your talking about. If you have a real argument, just try and make sure it makes sense, that’s all Anyone asks.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    in no way shape or form is d.rose better than cp3… and even if rose does add a post game that won’t change next year although fezz22 makes some good points

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    So…..any of y’all interested in starting an online association on 2k12 on PS3???

  • Dr. DL

    The thing is Chris Paul is the only player who, when I watch him play, I genuinely believe that he is able to do whatever he wants on the basketball court at any time. It’s like he is a puppeteer holding strings tied to all nine other guys out there. Unreal. Other PG’s may be better players in the most quantifiable of ways. Rose is a more potent scorer. DWill and even Wall’s measurable athletic virtues would put them above CP3. But Paul is the only one who gives me that feeling I just described, like he has this intangible control over (or maybe just awareness of) everything happening on the floor, and the skills to do whatever he wants anout it. I have no problem with Rose being ranked over Paul on this list. Not sure I agree, but I won’t complain. I will say though that watching Paul play is a uniquely sublime experience.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    STFU NBK, I would slap the hell outta you right now if you was in my presence, you imbecile. All these excuses for cp3 about the hand he was dealt, but Rose played with nothing but spades huh? im done, F you and keep your opinion to yourself about that no winning, overrated, best pg in league guy. ^ this fool talking about watching cp3 is a completely sublime experience, get your corny a** out of here.

  • mugiwara

    all those jazz players that now play for the bulls did play better for the jazz. yes it is partially due to deron williams passing ability, I remember watching the jazz and they always had one of the most fluid offensive team games under coach sloan. however it was frustrating watching boozer roll off screens into perfect space and rose take it at three dudes, he needs to learn to pass better not for the team efficiency but more for his longevity as rose is clearly capable.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Enigmatic, hells yeah!

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Lol thats what I call a mature non-emotional response.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    So far just me and JTaylor?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @mugiwara – and Jerry Sloan had nothing to do with the Jazz having “one of the most fluid offenses”, I bet?

  • Mackdaddy

    @Enigmatic, totally agree about the Bulls (Bulls fans gotta stick together!) being more of a team effort than D.Rose willing them to win every game, that’s why they were so good, they were like a family. Honestly, that’s why the Mavs beat the Heat too. Rose is one of the best leaders in the NBA, in that he can always step up (and always did) when the team needs him. He’s like a f*cking superhero. That’s why he’s higher than CP3.

    P.S. I ryhme and I rip, I rip and I ryhme!!!

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I would but I’m on 360

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    This lame, stuck in 2008. get over it, he had his turn.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    You can’t even read. 3:16PM should shut u up on that argument. Illiteracy is a mother f*cker

  • Bball fan

    Boozer was clearly affected by the missed games. The same left hand that had him regarded as an allstar caliber player failed him in the bulls uni. I remember rose hitting a rolling to the hole boozer early and often only to have him blow the layup in traffic. Rose is a fierce competitor. I don’t blame rose for giving up on boozer’s bum *ss and trying to get it done himself.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Brad: Because Paul is a much better defender, passer, creator, facilitator, shooter. You say yourself nobody is scared of NO. You’re right. Look at the cast around CP3. Nothing. Yet he still gets double digit assists a game. And what has Rose won that Paul hasn’t? I see no rings on either’s fingers. Tell me what Rose is better at than Paul aside from finishing and scoring inside. And a job? It’s no business of yours, but I’m a pre-medical student at the University of California, Berkeley. I hope you know, Brad, not even the biggest Bulls fan here (Enig) agrees with you. And he knows more than you do.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    And Enig, I’d love to, but 360 man. You and JT will have an awesome league though, I’ll bet.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    This fool says I cant read, lol. I didnt see your wack a** comment chump. Being a b**ch is a motherF**ker too, right? You should know. This imbecile is irrelevant.

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